somnambulant

Yeah, I think it's going to be a little crazy. Especially since there isn't really a whole lot of room to breathe there at the best of times. That's part of the reason why I mentioned sitting back and watching from a bit of a distance until things start rolling.

cavit8

me playing it safe...

somnambulant

Well, it just went out on the ARC email list..

operator

Ugh. I had the notion this was going to be a kind of informal ride for bikeforums people.

somnambulant

Well, the plan originated from Emma (afaik), so it was never specifically a BikeForums thing.

TRaffic Jammer

Maybe if Thoby says a few words at the beginning to keep it on track..... a celebration of Charlie. I really like the idea of Thoby wanting to ride some of their childhood haunts.

operator

I'm just going to keep my trap shut now.

nerdsgirth

I really like what everybody is doing. See ya'll tomorrow. Anyone want to ride in with me from the west end?

Rob check PM

cavernmech

I will make an effort to make sure the first people to get em are people who actually knew Charlie. I only had 45 made which should cover that. I was thinking I would give a stack to Wes, Thoby, and Emma...they can hand em out as they see fit. This way I dont get mobbed (which I actually would love to avoid) and they get spread out among the masses. If the demand is high we can always make some more. So rest assured everyone here will get one who attends. I have put a couple aside for folks who cant make it or are out of town (Dan).

somnambulant

Thanks for getting me mobbed, *******.

ps. just did an interview with the lady from the Star as well. She brought up the Friday safety meetings, although she of course didn't call it that. I thought that was pretty funny/cool. Apparently one of his parent's brought it up with her already.

TRaffic Jammer

Hey rock star, get used to it. I need two please Keith, but maybe I'll pass by the shop earlier in the day.

zippered

one of my clients called me this afternoon because he heard the interview and wanted to make sure i knew about it. *verklempt*

(fwiw: i'm always leery when answering the "but isn't it dangerous" question. riding a bike is not inherently dangerous. getting hit by cars is. if i stopped riding because it was "dangerous", and if everyone stopped riding because it was dangerous, then it would be even more dangerous.)

TRaffic Jammer

It wouldn't be dangerous at all except for the cars......and the streetcar tracks. Get rid of those things and I'm smiling for the rest of my days on the bike.

**edit** Inattentive/aggressive drivers...not the cars themselves. I do love me cars too.

2wheelsgood

https://toronto.craigslist.org/bik/398705201.html

LordFoo

+1, but I'm also commenting because this reminds me a lot of a "conversation" I had this weekend while out for a road ride. About 3 minutes after an authentic redneck/"get off the road" encounter (which fit the stereotype to the letter, pickup truck and all), some guy buzzed me while laying on his horn. I indicated my displeasure, and he slowed down to let me know that he was only honking so that I wouldn't get hit or hurt (I forget which). I let him know that it wasn't my presence on the road that could "get me hurt", but rather his, and that a much better way to not hit me would be to aim his car in a different direction than mine.

FWIW, both encounters were along Kingston Road near St Clair/McCowan.. definitely my least favourite stretch of road in the east end.

TRaffic Jammer

^^ it's amazing how many drivers will assume for some weird reason that as they fly up behind us it's our responsibility to make sure we give them enough room, but when passing another car or streetcar wide berths are given because that's simply what you do on the road^^

cavernmech

A heads up for anyone interested. There are a few spots available on the conglomeration of teams that is Angry Johnnys racing, for the upcoming 24hr race next weekend. If anyone here is interested P.M. me.

cavit8

Yes, I rarely feel in danger except when drivers are driving like damn fools. Like the nitwit today that slammed on the brakes right behind me while I was waiting on a red. Or the jackasses that think it's okay to buzz you. And you're right, the best way to improve safety is to increase the number of cyclists (and pedestrians) and send a strong enforcement message that the car is not king. What does that say about our culture when we have to put red light cameras in place? Too many big bellys out there...

<edit>Wes, I just listened to the broadcast, awesome job.

shapelike

Just finished the broadcast - you totally blew it, Wes (trying to balance out your reviews, here).

Cycle Therapy is shutting down at 5pm tomorrow so everyone can make it to Jet Fuel on time. I hope tomorrow isn't a zoo ... I guess I'm going to stick with the people I know and try to remember why I'm there. Sara just finished detailing her bike. She's bringing out all the carbon bling she has in honour of Charlie.

operator

Thanks Mark

DrBenway

Thoughts? Changes?

If not I will layout four to a page and post it as well for anyone who wants to print some up as well. I'll get some printed before the ride and bring them along.

sweep242

You did great on the interview. I’ll be thinking about you guys for the ride as i won’t be able to make it for obvious reasons.
Way to pull together.

somnambulant

ps. it's "Prinsep". I've been spelling it wrong too, but the funeral thingy is right in front of me on my desk. whoops.

cavit8

Nice job. I think you could drop the periods in the last two lines. I'm not sure if it would be too cramped to capitalize every word. The first two lines are all caps, the second two not. Looks fine regardless. If you fire me the pdf, I can print some too.

jeremywhitehorn

weird - on the way home from work, i just rode past the guy who was the latest person to comment on charlie's blog (he works at west side cycle).

I can't believe i'm going to miss the ride tomorrow. i'll have a little moment of reflection for everyone at 6:00.

I apologize if i offended any of the ARC people; we're all cyclists and their hearts and intentions are in the right place, i'm just not a 'cause' type of guy if you know what i mean...