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I_bRAD 11-05-07 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by jeremywhitehorn (Post 5578325)
a health report on CBC claims that cars and trucks are killing 400 people a year in toronto (ie. premature death due to pollution, etc). i wonder how many more you could pin on cars if you were to add in factors such as inactivity / obesity etc?

They just had a "talkback" thing on CTV where you call in and say what you're doing personally to address this... One guy figures his car doesn't pollute 'cause he passes his emissions test every year, and lots more complain that there's not enough transit options for commuters. Nobody seems to ask why you'd choose to live 100kms from your work (or work 100kms from your home)

Someone did call in and say that they got rid of their car and use their bikes now... and the anchor pretty much dismissed her by saying "well that's fine if you live downtown... but what about the commuters?"

Danhalen 11-05-07 11:41 AM

Yeah too bad about the rain. I'm on an uber sugar high thanks to Rockets left over from Toby's race. I need to expend some energy!

TRaffic Jammer 11-05-07 11:48 AM

Hey who was rockin' that Argon18 Electron in the pics? Rockets... mankind's perfect little placebo.

Danhalen 11-05-07 11:52 AM

That was Olaf. I know him from when he was Messin' in Toronto last year.

TRaffic Jammer 11-05-07 12:06 PM

niiiice... Now ..not on the hunt per say, but keeping eyes peeled for non-integrated HS track bikes...
the idea.... is for it to be a track bike.... though whose to say it might never see the streets?

jeremywhitehorn 11-05-07 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by I_bRAD (Post 5578368)
They just had a "talkback" thing on CTV where you call in and say what you're doing personally to address this... One guy figures his car doesn't pollute 'cause he passes his emissions test every year, and lots more complain that there's not enough transit options for commuters. Nobody seems to ask why you'd choose to live 100kms from your work (or work 100kms from your home)

Someone did call in and say that they got rid of their car and use their bikes now... and the anchor pretty much dismissed her by saying "well that's fine if you live downtown... but what about the commuters?"


i like downtown; i thought i was a commuter? let's see: i want a huge house and lots of land and i don't want to have to pay a lot for it and i want to still earn a lot of money. what do you mean i have no right to complain about having to travel every day to get what i want.

i was driving back from whitby yesterday after visiting my folks; it will never cease to amaze me the sight you get of miles of row housing after you crest a hill coming down from one of the country roads. you are literally in the country and then bam! suburbs. it happens somewhere just south of highway 7...

I_bRAD 11-05-07 12:15 PM

My parents are just East of Oshawa and it's the same thing... A few times I've been taken aback expecting to crest a hill to see fields, only to see fields of houses with the odd megaplex and home depot scattered about.

When we did that colours ride up to forks of the credit a few weeks ago I was joking that we were too late to see the leaves- they already cut them down to build "an exclusive enclave of custom estates"

I do love the ironic names they give to the developments like "woodland meadow" or "forest ravine estates" though

jeremywhitehorn 11-05-07 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by TRaffic Jammer (Post 5578548)
niiiice... Now ..not on the hunt per say, but keeping eyes peeled for non-integrated HS track bikes...
the idea.... is for it to be a track bike.... though whose to say it might never see the streets?

there's no shortage of non-integrated track frames out there. why not save your pennies and get something custom. start a swear jar or something.

I_bRAD 11-05-07 12:17 PM

Great ****ing idea!

jeremywhitehorn 11-05-07 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by I_bRAD (Post 5578603)
My parents are just East of Oshawa and it's the same thing... A few times I've been taken aback expecting to crest a hill to see fields, only to see fields of houses with the odd megaplex and home depot scattered about.

When we did that colours ride up to forks of the credit a few weeks ago I was joking that we were too late to see the leaves- they already cut them down to build "an exclusive enclave of custom estates"

I do love the ironic names they give to the developments like "woodland meadow" or "forest ravine estates" though

yeah, that seems to be the trend out there. it's kind of depressing, really on the other side of the country-lane from my parents' housing development is a working farm. i also see the odd house with scads of property around it surrounded by cookie-cutter houses. i have to wonder how long that house has been there and how scenic it must have been when the bought it. kind of like a suburban diorama version of death of a salesman.

jeremywhitehorn 11-05-07 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by I_bRAD (Post 5578621)
Great ****ing idea!

put a quarter in, ****er! oh, ****! i'm rich, *****!

TRaffic Jammer 11-05-07 12:33 PM

with two kids 14 and 10..I'm well versed in controlling my tougne...swear jars would remain empty.
I think in the 21std century.. there should be a MASSIVE tax/cost to develop land AND purchase a new home with lawns.
Somebody HAS to address sprawl and more than a developers' obstacle.. in my analyst's hat this is up there with Global Warming and getting beer in our corner stores.

cavernmech 11-05-07 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by TRaffic Jammer (Post 5578750)
with two kids 14 and 10..I'm well versed in controlling my tougne...swear jars would remain empty.

Perhaps an eating jar then. Every time someone in the house eats something throw in a quarter. JACKPOT!

TRaffic Jammer 11-05-07 12:42 PM

Rocking
Judge Judy and Johhny Rotten

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyfGnASlSJA


I'm supposed to feed the kids?... oh hell....

jeremywhitehorn 11-05-07 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by cavernmech (Post 5578779)
Perhaps an eating jar then. Every time someone in the house eats something throw in a quarter. JACKPOT!

include the dog in this and you've got yourself a deal!

TRaffic Jammer 11-05-07 12:52 PM

would that incl evening trips through my garbage?

MattRennick 11-05-07 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by cavernmech (Post 5577969)
90km's. Any bike. Anything goes race ie: weird addresses, bike lock-ups, stair run-ups, odd cargo etc. A bag, lock and Perly's are pretty much required. The fastest person out won't win...the smartest fast person will. Prize will be split dependent on how many women come out based on percentage ie: 100 racers total...10 women...Womens prize is 10%.

I should add as well that Nadir said that 2-way communication is fine - radios, walkies, phones, etc. All are totally fine as far as he's concerned. Should be an awesome race!

pyze-guy 11-05-07 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by MattRennick (Post 5578915)
I should add as well that Nadir said that 2-way communication is fine - radios, walkies, phones, etc. All are totally fine as far as he's concerned. Should be an awesome race!

Sounds interesting. To paraphrase Brad, details-time, date etc.?


Side note, showed the students The Gods Must Be Crazy today (hoods are broken). Such a crazy funny movie, I'd forgotten has weird it was. Sems like it fiolmed on a $32 budget. Anyone remeber the theater in T.O. that showed it for 15 years.

TRaffic Jammer 11-05-07 01:27 PM

is this rider to base or rider/rider chatter?... interesting..and well done as sometimes the rider TOTALLY needs the dispatcher to get where he's gotta be

zippered 11-05-07 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by pyze-guy (Post 5579023)
Anyone remeber the theater in T.O. that showed it for 15 years.

i dunno if it was at the eaton center, but i was thinking about that place when the varsity vip was mentioned last week... $2.50 to see a flick in a theater that was more like a house party in someone's basement = good tymes


and today is/was a good day for tuna casserole, with chocolate chip cookies for dessert! sa-weeet!

MattRennick 11-05-07 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by TRaffic Jammer (Post 5579099)
is this rider to base or rider/rider chatter?... interesting..and well done as sometimes the rider TOTALLY needs the dispatcher to get where he's gotta be

I can't say for sure but I'm almost certain that either rider/base or rider/rider is allowed. I hope I'm not spreading misinformation but that is what I seem to recall hearing from Nadir.

On a totally unrelated note: You make Danzig wanna speak Spanish.

jet sanchEz 11-05-07 04:03 PM

I was wondering if anyone here knows where this ebay seller found this bike: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=017

He calls the shop a "somewhat curious local bike shop" and when I emailled him, he wouldn't tell me where he got it, just saying that it wasn't High Park Cycles (which is what I had guessed). I think it is funny that he wouldn't tell me the name, does anyone have any ideas?

nerdsgirth 11-05-07 04:12 PM

Tomorrow on "here and now", the issue of "bike rage" is going to be discussed - cbc 99.1.

I_bRAD 11-05-07 04:14 PM

I got some bike rage for them.

cavernmech 11-05-07 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by jet sanchEz (Post 5580057)
I was wondering if anyone here knows where this ebay seller found this bike: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=017

He calls the shop a "somewhat curious local bike shop" and when I emailled him, he wouldn't tell me where he got it, just saying that it wasn't High Park Cycles (which is what I had guessed). I think it is funny that he wouldn't tell me the name, does anyone have any ideas?

Since it isn't High Park I would guess Cog's or Polly's. NOS is a stretch as it has numerous rear wheel locknut scars on the drop-outs. $570! OUCH.


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