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operator 12-08-07 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by nerdsgirth (Post 5770810)
What the heck does this even mean? http://toronto.craigslist.ca/bra/bik/502708830.html garbage.

I got dibs

cavernmech 12-08-07 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by jet sanchEz (Post 5770935)
Looks like someone is selling a track bike....no? You mean the re-fitting thing? I think he means that it was re-painted and new parts have been put on it?

That's pretty far from being a track bike. Funny how people throw a fixed cog on an old bike and it automatically becomes a "track' bike. Someone who doesn't know any better will buy that thing sadly.

operator 12-08-07 07:49 PM

I thought this was old news (article is dated Dec 7, 2007 though) but I guess it's worth a repost:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...tory/National/

jet sanchEz 12-08-07 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by cavernmech (Post 5771471)
That's pretty far from being a track bike. Funny how people throw a fixed cog on an old bike and it automatically becomes a "track' bike. Someone who doesn't know any better will buy that thing sadly.

Agreed but this thing looks to have track ends on it, hard to tell from the pic though....

Gas.Face 12-09-07 01:28 AM


Assuming $20 shipping for those wheels (their domestic shipping price) + 14% tax + $5 brokerage (assuming USPS). Hmm.
They charge $40 shipping through usps not including customs.

DrBenway 12-09-07 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by operator (Post 5771925)
I thought this was old news (article is dated Dec 7, 2007 though) but I guess it's worth a repost:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...tory/National/

Yeah I thought that was old news too until I showed up with my stainless steel drinking bottle at work and got the third degree. Truth is, whether this is right or not there's a million and one reasons to be suspect of plastics and food. I was just listening to a report about how much of ANOTHER chemical we've been absorbing through food containers for the last 40 years. Loverly.

Oh... and bikes. Speaking of, will anyone be on one today? I'm assuming the spit looks like garbouge.

cavernmech 12-09-07 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by DrBenway (Post 5773896)
Yeah I thought that was old news too until I showed up with my stainless steel drinking bottle at work and got the third degree. Truth is, whether this is right or not there's a million and one reasons to be suspect of plastics and food. I was just listening to a report about how much of ANOTHER chemical we've been absorbing through food containers for the last 40 years. Loverly.

Oh... and bikes. Speaking of, will anyone be on one today? I'm assuming the spit looks like garbouge.

Does this apply to polypropylene as well? I have heard good things about poly compared to other materials but am unsure.
Hmmmmm...riding my bike.....sounds like fun. A mellow coffee shop tour might be in order?

I_bRAD 12-09-07 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by DrBenway (Post 5773896)
Oh... and bikes. Speaking of, will anyone be on one today? I'm assuming the spit looks like garbouge.

I'm working, but the spit is usually cleared as it's still in use by trucks during the week.

cavit8 12-09-07 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by cavernmech (Post 5774182)
Does this apply to polypropylene as well? I have heard good things about poly compared to other materials but am unsure.
Hmmmmm...riding my bike.....sounds like fun. A mellow coffee shop tour might be in order?

Polycarbonate is the issue because a pthalate, bisphenol A, is added to make the plastic more rigid. This is the Type 7 plastic, like those little clear glasses we all drink out of at the christmas party. Not all 7 types contain pthalates but most sport drink bottles do. Polypropylene has a 5 on the bottom and doesn't contain bisphenol A and is considered a "safe" plastic (at least for now).

Most of the research on pthalates is animal based with high doses. There's no good evidence for low dose chronic exposure (as for most things). Endocrine disruption in the environment is less clear cut in terms of risk, again with most of the studies looking at feminization in fish and egg viability. There's some weak research that suggests effects in humans, but it hasn't been clearly linked to pthalates as opposed to other environmental pollutants. IMO pharmaceutical and personal care product waste is a bigger immediate problem. But while the risk from phalates may be mostly theoretical at this point, if there's a better alternative, why not use it?

<<Brief recycling rant>>
Regardless of the plastic type, put it in the blue box and let the city sort it out. The city makes $20 million a year off our recycling so everything they get is tax relief. It drives me nuts when I see people in our building throwing out cans and bottles in the regular garbage. Kaching...

I_bRAD 12-09-07 11:03 AM

The polycarbonate ones leak if you fill them with carbonated bevvy's. The polyethylene ones don't. Or so I've heard. that's good enough for me.

Flimflam 12-09-07 11:17 AM

Anyone still planning to ride today? I treated myself to a nice long lie-in this morning so I'm only now ready to surface.

cavernmech 12-09-07 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by cavit8 (Post 5774442)
Polycarbonate is the issue because a pthalate, bisphenol A, is added to make the plastic more rigid. This is the Type 7 plastic, like those little clear glasses we all drink out of at the christmas party. Not all 7 types contain pthalates but most sport drink bottles do. Polypropylene has a 5 on the bottom and doesn't contain bisphenol A and is considered a "safe" plastic (at least for now).

Most of the research on pthalates is animal based with high doses. There's no good evidence for low dose chronic exposure (as for most things). Endocrine disruption in the environment is less clear cut in terms of risk, again with most of the studies looking at feminization in fish and egg viability. There's some weak research that suggests effects in humans, but it hasn't been clearly linked to pthalates as opposed to other environmental pollutants. IMO pharmaceutical and personal care product waste is a bigger immediate problem. But while the risk from phalates may be mostly theoretical at this point, if there's a better alternative, why not use it?

<<Brief recycling rant>>
Regardless of the plastic type, put it in the blue box and let the city sort it out. The city makes $20 million a year off our recycling so everything they get is tax relief. It drives me nuts when I see people in our building throwing out cans and bottles in the regular garbage. Kaching...

But....but...I recycle all our bottles and cans. Cubs honor.

cavit8 12-09-07 12:08 PM

Present company excepted, goes without saying.

jet sanchEz 12-09-07 01:30 PM

And aluminium is getting to be a more and more "suspect" material in cases of Alzheimer's Disease---my mom flipped her lid when she saw that I have an aluminium carafe on my coffee maker.

And don't forget Teflon, which is linked to neural disorders---a family friend who is a doctor won't cook in anything but glass pots or pans.

shapelike 12-09-07 03:27 PM

Sweep:

- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkyhqE_VOEE <-- 7:00 (OMG!) ... 9:00 (OMFGYAY!!!)
- http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3614133/I_Love_Techno_2006 <-- you can isolate just their set and get it from this torrent

somnambulant 12-09-07 08:47 PM

phew.. and so the off-season interval workouts on the trainer begin!

found a neat program for keeping track of time while sweatin' it up.. http://www.red-sweater.com/flextime/. You can use it to set up a 'routine' of countdown timers. I just set up a routine with a 10m warmup, and then 7x3m intervals with a 1m rest in between each, followed by a 5m cooldown. Then I just saved the file on my desktop for future use.

That works out to be approximately the length of a Doctor Who episode, in case you were wondering. ;) Had the show playing on one monitor and the timer on the other (plus it was playing a sound at the end of each section too).

sweep242 12-09-07 09:41 PM


Originally Posted by shapelike (Post 5775838)
Sweep:

- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkyhqE_VOEE <-- 7:00 (OMG!) ... 9:00 (OMFGYAY!!!)
- http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3614133/I_Love_Techno_2006 <-- you can isolate just their set and get it from this torrent

Nice T/U

*Bikes i put the bikes in for the winter.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2095/...71b7b50d_b.jpg

shapelike 12-10-07 02:13 AM


Originally Posted by somnambulant (Post 5777674)
phew.. and so the off-season interval workouts on the trainer begin!

Let's organize some sort of "dvds for cash" arrangement this week.

iherald 12-10-07 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by shapelike (Post 5779105)
Let's organize some sort of "dvds for cash" arrangement this week.

??

somnambulant 12-10-07 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by iherald (Post 5779531)
??

I already PM'ed you about this, dingleberry. :)

shapelike 12-10-07 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by somnambulant (Post 5779660)
I already PM'ed you about this, dingleberry. :)

... no you didn't.

... no you didn't.

Denial ftw!

... no you didn't.

Edit: I actually can't find this PM/email ... please re-send.

... no you didn't.

somnambulant 12-10-07 11:22 AM

Not you, iherald.

But yes, we can do the exchange sometime this week.

Kol.klink 12-10-07 11:42 AM

Well Chemicals Aside Cast iron is the only way to cook/
And i thought It took time for The chemicals to leach into the water, and that if unless you let you Beverage sit for a few weeks, All this hoobajoob, over nalges was a bit pointless

Anyways Now that i hear these Sprints are not happening on a regular basis, Whats going down?
I need to ride more, and i dont know ya'll i need to come on one the these ride deals

cavit8 12-10-07 12:13 PM

PSA: 2005 Kona Jake the snake frame/fork - $150
http://toronto.craigslist.ca/tor/bik/504264057.html
2006 kona major jake frame - $400
http://toronto.craigslist.ca/tor/bik/504261915.html

shapelike 12-10-07 01:36 PM

Aww:
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image...boa_416203.jpg

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7130484.stm


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