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jeremywhitehorn 01-14-08 03:56 PM

that jersey has quite a pedigree...it's about time they have a jersey for that (the tour has the lantern rouge). i think the worst rider in the giro still blows the average rider out of the water so i'd wear it with pride...

exhibitx 01-14-08 03:56 PM

if there is one thing cycling is missing, it's more reasons to dope up

Danhalen 01-14-08 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by somnambulant (Post 5980197)
So you can't go for a fast road ride without having delusions of grandeur and shaved legs? Interesting. For the record, I don't have either. :)

A debatable point :D

Danhalen 01-14-08 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by jet sanchEz (Post 5980215)
I will walk in and wink four times with my left eye and that will be the sign that you know it is me. When you see the winks, pretend to go into an epileptic seizure, your co-workers will rush to your aid, I will rush over to the R3s and depart with two of them. Remember, 4 winks of the left eye. Maybe I should touch my head 2 times as well, just so there is no confusion.

4 winks and 2 head touches then convulsions, got it?

Depends. One of those frames is for me right?

Danhalen 01-14-08 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by duppy.conqueror (Post 5980224)
the soloist carbon is set up for you to test ride...you know just to make sure everything is ok...;) take it for a good 20 or 30 km ride...

I rode it around the shop actually. it was a 58. I was a little stretched out. Not so comfortable.

Danhalen 01-14-08 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by iherald (Post 5980688)
Dan, what's it like working at Cervelo?

I'm really liking it so far. The people I work with are super nice which is the best part for sure. It's a pretty fun environment. The bikes are really nice and I'll probably get one because it's such a good deal/investment. On the other hand, it has helped me to think a little more practically about bikes. I want another steel track bike, with a nice tubeset, and geometry of my choosing. I think I'd be happy with that. I don't give a crap about the stiffest/lightest blah blah blah. Who cares. Seriously. Is all of that worth $6000? I don't think so. As I said I'm only considering getting one because I would get it for considerably less than that.

jit5 01-14-08 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by jeremywhitehorn (Post 5979952)
i'm sure we're all in shape enough at some point to keep up with the pace of the doughnut ride, it's the hellish take-no-prisoners pack riding that scares me. i can't believe we're talking about the doughnut ride. we're such roadie scum! i'm shaving my legs later; who's in?



Originally Posted by Flimflam (Post 5980791)
I'm far from being roadie scum on my clapped out old Centurion, but I'm definitely in for the donut ride - my only concern is holding the hammer down enough to keep up. I think I'm fairly quick compared to the average person on a bike - but that's not who rides the donut and I'm probably not that fast for long stretches - I rode in a peleton on the ride for heart for a while and had trouble keeping pace after a while, though I was on platforms and not in super shape at the time I still dropped off the pack. I rode back from Niagara Falls (100 miles almost to the dot on my route) the first time in 8.5 hours including lots of breaks, which isn't too bad, but it's no 23+mph constant (I ride more like around 19-21mph mostly as I keep in the same gear all the time). I'll be pushing more on the Hairshirt, which I've not done before.

I'm down for the challenge though :p

Oh and I've only had my legs shaved due to compromised sobriety and girls who thought it'd be funny... yeah, it wasn't and it's not.

As for drafting, I prefer to pull - I hate being behind people too close in the open country, let alone the city - I'm not used to riding in close quarters, so I'm fine with doing some work out front. Drafting unannounced hasn't really happened to me yet, but I've pulled a few buddies through town (places like across the Bloor/Danforth viaduct) which is cool by me. I ride inconsistent hours, and most of the riders I encounter are either way slower or don't seem to ride the same route for long enough, as I stick to the major arteries for my near-daily cross-town riding (Bloor/Danforth being the main drag). Drafting doesn't seem to make much sense to me in town unless it's hella windy, that's about the only thing that'll make me tuck in to the drops, I mostly ride on my hoods/tops.

Edit, the donut is more like 100km? Hmm, well I rode to Cambridge which is about 100kms, I got there in about 4 hours on platforms with a backpack and a few breaks along the way - what's the usual donut ride time? (Desperately trying to see if I'm able to save face and do this thing ;))

It's the middle of January. Everyone is on a dirty beater and you don't have to shave your legs with tights on.

So just keep making excuses. If a 45 year old poseur with 2 kids and a full time job can do it every Saturday and Sunday, including last week-end, then you young hot shots should have no problems.

Look forward to seeing you there.

And you can see all your co-workers from Cervelo including Gerard occasionally, but I guess they are elitist roadie scum too.

operator 01-14-08 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by jit5 (Post 5982388)
a 45 year old poseur

I don't think poseur is the right adjective here.

TRaffic Jammer 01-14-08 07:06 PM

OMG it's JIT5, wow slime still can surface in the cold weather.

somnambulant 01-14-08 08:16 PM

hahaha.. I *knew* talk of the donut ride would pull him from his slumber. Good times.

jeremywhitehorn 01-14-08 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by jit5 (Post 5982388)
It's the middle of January. Everyone is on a dirty beater and you don't have to shave your legs with tights on.

So just keep making excuses. If a 45 year old poseur with 2 kids and a full time job can do it every Saturday and Sunday, including last week-end, then you young hot shots should have no problems.

Look forward to seeing you there.

i was going to say i don't really ride to doughnut because it's not my crowd but you took the words right out of my mouth..

Flimflam 01-14-08 11:15 PM


Originally Posted by jit5 (Post 5982388)
blah blah blah

hot shots

blah blah blah

I'm a hot shot? I'm still young? YES! WINNAR! :D

somnambulant 01-15-08 07:59 AM

I love it when a driver doesn't shoulder-check/signal and then acts like it's MY fault when they nearly run me off the road. Oy gevalt.

Flimflam 01-15-08 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by somnambulant (Post 5984926)
I love it when a driver doesn't shoulder-check/signal and then acts like it's MY fault when they nearly run me off the road. Oy gevalt.

Yeah, happens almost daily *sigh* But above all else, that bothers me more than anything. People who just don't check are simply dangerous - I've rarely had the chance to try and explain that point to the driver though - I honestly don't know if it'd do any good.

Had a guy last night on a minor street in the east end (at least I was right by TEGH in case ;)) cut a left turn right in front of me... He stopped (in the middle of his turn/the intersection) when I threw my arms up, I ducked left to avoid him and yelled "WTF AM I? CHOPPED &*&^ing LIVER?" and added some other incoherent F-bombs noticing my headlight on full, my hi-vis vest was on and visible, etc. etc. All that risk to MY life for his 10 seconds. A-holes FTL.

duppy.conqueror 01-15-08 10:12 AM

anyone see this?

im glad the biker won...but bike rage?? huh??

TRaffic Jammer 01-15-08 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by duppy.conqueror (Post 5985543)
anyone see this?

im glad the biker won...but bike rage?? huh??

That rocks! no fisticuffs, and the driver gets ticketed by bike police afterwards...yea boooi!

A black jersey of DFL shame? I sOOOOO want one.

exhibitx 01-15-08 10:27 AM

haha, i love that he not only got a ticket, but got a ticket from bike cops

Flimflam 01-15-08 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by duppy.conqueror (Post 5985543)
anyone see this?

im glad the biker won...but bike rage?? huh??

Just another example of how complacent people are with road safety. It really pisses me off how easily people disregard other peoples' safety on the road, and riding a bike is a sure way of experiencing that first hand. Glad the driver got ticketed, but it's only a nick in the armour - I'll regularly block the lane at Bloor/Avenue to prevent people turning right on the red (illegal as per signs) because it pisses me off that these folks just aren't aware of the road situation around them - probably not great to do, but if they have a problem, I point at the sign and turn around and ignore. I love laughing at people honking others in front of them when they can't get past, but the guy turning has to wait for oncoming to clear - I hate that people are in such a hurry they can't afford 15 seconds to wait when necessary. I also had a guy hovering on my ass just after Yonge heading east on Bloor going toward all the contraflow stuff... I waved him off my ass once I'd got through the HUGE holes in the intersection and promptly gained 2 blocks on traffic because of all the people wrestling for positions to get into the single lane area. People don't read the road, they don't pay attention to the road, and it bothers the hell out of me.

Bloor needs repaving BADLY, Bay/Bloor is getting disgusting, and I don't know why they couldn't have fixed the stuff when they were tearing it up and had it blocked off before Xmas. Bah.

Man I'm rant-y today... Sheesh :p

kergin 01-15-08 12:47 PM

The worst is drivers that think they can play "chicken" when the cyclist has the right of way. This happens to me on a daily basis when I come down Christie from St. Clair; drivers that want to head south on Christie off side roads stop with > 50% of the car past the stop sign, and then proceed to start-stop merge, even though they see cyclists coming down Christie. Its pretty easy to hit 40km/h going down that hill, and if some ass that wants to merge makes the mistake of thinking you're going 15km/h or feels that you will stop to let them pass, you're pretty much dead. And they don't give a $hit.

Good story: I was heading east on Bloor, just before Spadina at around 8:40 AM. Lots of drivers need to merge to the right so they can get south on Spadina; I know this, so when I see a car in the left lane signal to get over and turn south on Spadina, I take the whole right lane and give this guy room to merge. Next thing, I hear a horn behind me and this cabbie pulls up next to me and starts telling me how, "it's my right to take the lane and ride where I want," but, "please don't." I tried to explain why I took the lane: to let someone in front of me merge, but this ****** wasn't listening. I gave up, gave him the finger and proceeded on my way. Cabbies are dirtbags. 100%.

Flimflam 01-15-08 02:20 PM

Heh yeah, drivers that misjudge our speed is a real problem too - I suspect that's what happened last night to me and the guy who tried to cut in front. I don't care guys do that, just don't do it close - I'm on the road to try and impact traffic as little as I can - so if they can make the turn without waiting for me and there's room - I'm cool with that.

Re: your Spadina/cabbie experience - that's pretty priceless :p He acknowledges the right, but just tells you not to anyway? Heh. It's even worse because you're actually *helping* traffic flow with what you're doing... Ah well. :)

MattRennick 01-15-08 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by kergin (Post 5986594)
I gave up, gave him the finger and proceeded on my way. Cabbies are dirtbags. 100%.

I usually tell them to get the **** out of the car or **** off and drive... It's been a long time since anyone got out of the car and the last time someone did he went toe to toe with me, made a fool of himself and got back in his car and drove away dejected... I made fun of him the whole way back to his car. ******...

In defense of cabbies - studies have shown that they are, in fact, only 98.6% dirtbags.

TRaffic Jammer 01-15-08 02:59 PM

Drivers typically misjudge what an adrenaline pumped, almost-been-killed, cyclist is capable of. Usually to their detriment. Sir do NOT get out of the car, SIR DON'T DO THAT, aw jeeees..... I don't wanna embarrass you in front of your wife/gf, just stop driving like an idiot.

Rush hour U-turns account for 26.8% of all cabbie dirtbag behavior.

duppy.conqueror 01-15-08 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by TRaffic Jammer (Post 5987451)
Drivers typically misjudge what an adrenaline pumped, almost-been-killed, cyclist is capable of...

the news doesnt! they are all road raging psychos!!!! ;)

PS they dont agree with me in the A&S forum thread i posted... :D

somnambulant 01-15-08 03:20 PM

Matt/TJ: posts of the week. :D

duppy.conqueror 01-15-08 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by MattRennick (Post 5987425)
In defense of cabbies - studies have shown that they are, in fact, only 98.6% dirtbags.

:lol:


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