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cavernmech 04-25-06 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by operator
Let's have a Toronto Congestion charge, seriously, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_congestion_charge.

Especially in the GTA. That'd never fly with the car loving populace here though.

Cavernmech: Are you supposd to grease the pawls on the campy freehubs? I'm hearing conflicting anecdotal advice from differing people.

I use "Slick Honey"...it is a really thin smooth grease. You don't want to use anything too thick or it makes the pawls stick.

darkmother 04-25-06 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by Shiznaz
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wtf... that link was considered offensive by the filters so I had to UL it to my own webspace with a different filename


Ha ha....that *is* offensive. Imagine how many chickens died to make that guy look like that....the humanity!

operator 04-25-06 10:45 AM

Phil wood bearing grease no go?

paul_in_toronto 04-25-06 10:47 AM

Ya Uh KIETH watch out for this guy, he came by the shop the other day wanting to try out a few of the high end bikes. Didnt have id.. looks very suspicious. I think I saw him hanging out in moss park.

http://z.about.com/d/collectdolls/1/0/l/G/troll.jpg

cavernmech 04-25-06 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by operator
Phil wood bearing grease no go?

No....if you don't have something ultra thin....think consistency of ketchup....then go with oil. I like the thin grease method cause I think it lasts longer and mutes the crazy loud freehub noise that is Campy. I use Campy on my Cross racing bike and like to be a little stealthy.

operator 04-25-06 10:50 AM

Ok where can I pick up a jar of this honey goodness?

darkmother 04-25-06 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by operator
Phil wood bearing grease no go?

Too thick. The prawls may not engage fully, and you can mess up yourself, and the part.

TRaffic Jammer 04-25-06 10:55 AM

HEY....I've seen that little bastard around too. Cept he looked like:
http://img173.imageshack.us/img173/5294/troll4gb.jpg

eyefloater 04-25-06 10:59 AM

Oh, Winterborne (no u) ... *smacks head*

paul_in_toronto 04-25-06 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by TRaffic Jammer
HEY....I've seen that little bastard around too. Cept he looked like:
http://img173.imageshack.us/img173/5294/troll4gb.jpg

He might be hanging out with this guyhttp://141.157.157.99/Gary/Troll.jpg I saw the two of them standing at shoppers drug mart over by logan.. The had some bike.. the name was unusual..winter something.. looked a bit too tall for them..

TRaffic Jammer 04-25-06 11:20 AM

Jesus..... it's like they're related..... or a gang.

eyefloater 04-25-06 11:23 AM

Honestly, what the ****.

http://www.bloodhound-omega.com/temp/icecandy_vixen.jpg

Okay, I have to go be productive now.

operator 04-25-06 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by darkmother
Too thick. The prawls may not engage fully, and you can mess up yourself, and the part.

Good thing I don't have the cassette yet, that would've been not good.

Bicycle Specialites only open Fri/Sat? :|

veteran_youth 04-25-06 12:02 PM

I don't know where you guys are getting the pricing for the Giant track frame, but I got it out of their dealer catalog. Shouldn't be more than $800 for frame and carbon fork. Not too bad if you ask me.

But if you want to spend $1200 for Canadian made may I suggest: http://www.truenorthcycles.com/frames/track.asp

BTW compact doesn't seem to bother the guys that are ripping it at Forest City......but they aren't messers so what would they know about track bikes..........

Andrew

jet sanchEz 04-25-06 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by veteran_youth
I don't know where you guys are getting the pricing for the Giant track frame, but I got it out of their dealer catalog. Shouldn't be more than $800 for frame and carbon fork. Not too bad if you ask me.

But if you want to spend $1200 for Canadian made may I suggest: http://www.truenorthcycles.com/frames/track.asp

BTW compact doesn't seem to bother the guys that are ripping it at Forest City......but they aren't messers so what would they know about track bikes..........

Andrew

Giant that ended last week on eBay

Also, why is that TrueNorth frame/fork so expensive? To me, 1200$CDN is a helluva lotta money for just a frame and fork.

TRaffic Jammer 04-25-06 12:12 PM

^^^^^Isn't he just a peach, that Veteran_Youth? :lol: ^^^^
Hey 32flavours said so.

I sent this to traffic services.

Good Day Officers:

I was informed by a biking officer, that as a cyclist in Toronto, I am allowed to take the curb lane. Today I was doing just that and riding as if I were a car, complete with waiting in line at the red. I was buzzed by a mini-van about six inches from my elbow as it straddled the lanes on the way to work. I calmly drove up to the drivers' window, where he informed me that he "knew" the law and I should be in that two foot strip of filth. We weren't being nasty it was a civil exchange.

If I'm allowed to take the lane, how is a car supposed to pass? By straddling the lanes and cutting me off? This seems to be the preferred method by Toronto drivers'. I've been a competitive cyclist for twenty-five years and a messenger in the 80's in Montreal, my skills are such that I fear no car. However had I been a nervous biker this man may have led to my crashing and being killed in traffic this morning.

Is there a web reference.... where I can see the law regarding my right to take the lane, rules regarding the inevitable passes as well as the possible charges penalties for not passing safely? I would love to print it so that I may give it to drivers who "know" the law.

It's quite disturbing to have a car revving it's engine eight inches from my back wheel. If I fall I'm dead. I've never encountered such overtly aggressive drivers as the Toronto rush hour and this is the only city in Canada I've ever feared for my life as a cyclist.

I know there alot of bad drivers AND cyclist out there, but drivers, being shielded by a ton of metal, are rolling weapons if they are unaware of how to position themselves in regards to other road users.

I think a road blitz/education campaign is needed before more cyclists are killed on our streets. If drivers don't start backing off the idea they own the roadway there is sure to be an unpleasant series of encounters this years as more and more tax paying citizens start using the most eco-friendly and non-obtrusive method of transport devised by man.

That said I've never EVER seen a car trying to honk or otherwise hassle bike officers off to the filth strip on the side of the road. Can I have one of your jackets? Just joking.

Thanks for your time. I hope to emailed a link or some text referring to the actual laws on the books.

Thanks for all the good work you do.

TRaffic Jammer 04-25-06 12:14 PM

Keith:

Does the Fuji fit this bill?

from the true north site:
ocal demand for track bikes has been growing lately due to the opening of the Forest City Velodrome in London, Ontario. Track bike geometry and sizing is dictated by the size of track and the event the athlete is competing in…Forest City is a short (138m) indoor track with steep banking, and it rewards really steep, aggressive frames.

Joe Bent 04-25-06 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by operator
Good thing I don't have the cassette yet, that would've been not good.

Bicycle Specialites only open Fri/Sat? :|


Yup

veteran_youth 04-25-06 12:35 PM

I would like to amend my comment slightly as I just checked pics of the Prov. Track Champs and most guys are on traditional frames. My buddy who is racing very well had a compact and was going to replace it w/a Giant ordered through my shop, but he got a "deal he could not refuse" on an Opus and is now riding that. I just find comments on aesthetics from urban fixers amusing when aimed at bikes that were really never designed to touch pavement in the first place. The compact frame will look just fine with an aero helmet and spandex 1-piece.

But anyway, Giant pretty much pioneered compact sizing to make their own lives easier and I don't see them giving it up any time soon. Even on entry level posenger bikes.

Andrew

paul_in_toronto 04-25-06 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by veteran_youth
I don't know where you guys are getting the pricing for the Giant track frame, but I got it out of their dealer catalog. Shouldn't be more than $800 for frame and carbon fork. Not too bad if you ask me.

But if you want to spend $1200 for Canadian made may I suggest: http://www.truenorthcycles.com/frames/track.asp

BTW compact doesn't seem to bother the guys that are ripping it at Forest City......but they aren't messers so what would they know about track bikes..........

Andrew

Apparently TRUENORTH gives discounts if you mention the name KASPER.

I agree with you on compact, I love the way it looks. I prefer somewhat thinner tubing though.

paul_in_toronto 04-25-06 12:44 PM

But anyway, Giant pretty much pioneered compact sizing to make their own lives easier and I don't see them giving it up any time soon. Even on entry level posenger bikes.

Andrew[/QUOTE]

Actually...

Sloping top tube frames, became popular after young PAUL BRODIE made a mistake welding a frame at rocky mountain. There was the sloping frame. Of course there was cheese womens frames. there was a few sloping top top tube road frames before giant.

darkmother 04-25-06 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by eyefloater
Honestly, what the ****.

Okay, I have to go be productive now.


Furries!

http://www.tigerden.com/infopage/furry/

operator 04-25-06 01:06 PM


I just find comments on aesthetics from urban fixers amusing when aimed at bikes that were really never designed to touch pavement in the first place.
I dunno this is also the singlespeed forum... :D

cavernmech 04-25-06 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by TRaffic Jammer
Keith:

Does the Fuji fit this bill?

from the true north site:
ocal demand for track bikes has been growing lately due to the opening of the Forest City Velodrome in London, Ontario. Track bike geometry and sizing is dictated by the size of track and the event the athlete is competing in…Forest City is a short (138m) indoor track with steep banking, and it rewards really steep, aggressive frames.

The rental bikes there are Fuji's and KHS's. Unless you are looking to set a new flying lap record you should be fine. I know of a few folks who bought their own pimp wheels and just put those on the rental bikes.

cavernmech 04-25-06 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by veteran_youth
I don't know where you guys are getting the pricing for the Giant track frame, but I got it out of their dealer catalog. Shouldn't be more than $800 for frame and carbon fork. Not too bad if you ask me.

But if you want to spend $1200 for Canadian made may I suggest: http://www.truenorthcycles.com/frames/track.asp

BTW compact doesn't seem to bother the guys that are ripping it at Forest City......but they aren't messers so what would they know about track bikes..........

Andrew

Not to be a stickler...but....Brooks Rapley, Dave Byers and Keith Thorarison...all medallists at the Provincials....all ex-messengers. Brooks and Dave are my boys!! Brooks is also a National Silver and Bronze medallist.

TRaffic Jammer 04-25-06 01:30 PM

what sort of pedal action is on the rentals? I totally wanna hit that track. Group rate? I might be able to get us a deal on the party/magic bus to London.

cavernmech 04-25-06 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by TRaffic Jammer
what sort of pedal action is on the rentals? I totally wanna hit that track. Group rate? I might be able to get us a deal on the party/magic bus to London.

Just bring yer own shoes and pedals. They usually have like 20 pairs of toe-clip pedals on the table cause hardly anyone uses em.
Magic bus party trip to London for some Velodrome action? I'm in!!

operator 04-25-06 01:38 PM

I'm not sure how well single sided entry Looks are going to go over on fixed.

TRaffic Jammer 04-25-06 01:40 PM

Like a dream, Operator, as long as you stay clipped in and spinnin'.

jeremywhitehorn 04-25-06 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by operator
I'm not sure how well single sided entry Looks are going to go over on fixed.

seeing as you're already used to them they shouldn't be a problem. i know a couple of guys who ride with Looks on their fixies, doing all sorts of long rides.


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