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TRaffic Jammer 11-07-08 09:41 AM

Only just discovered the place.... a buddy chastised me for living in the East for a dozen years and not even knowing it was there, despite having ridden/driven past it countless times. One of the tastiest and largest chicken souvlakis I've ever had, and I love their gyro.

duppy.conqueror 11-07-08 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by elTwitcho (Post 7807982)
Oh man, for a short time I pretty much lived at square boys...

Man Ive been goin there since I was a little kid! Square boyz are so damn good!

dammit now im hungry!:notamused:

TRaffic Jammer 11-07-08 10:08 AM

Anyone been to the The Healthy Greek on Queen near Peter(I think) ? I'm a gyro lover and curious to know if anyone else has sampled their wares.

Flimflam 11-07-08 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by somnambulant (Post 7807593)
You kids and your huge gears... *shakes head* I ride around 68-69 gear inches on the street. That gets me around comfortably at a reasonable clip no matter the conditions or if I'm tired. That would be in the 52x20 range. I don't even have a 52t on my geared bike! 36/46 chainrings ftw. Then again, that's my CX bike. :)

I hit 35mph (~55km/h?) the other day with my 46x17, that wasn't comfortable at all :p

I'm wanting to build my legs a bit more, and I want a higher cruise speed (aiming to keep the same rpm's, just go faster) eventually - 46x15 definitely feels heavy now, my acceleration has gone through the floor. Granted, this right now is a gear I wouldn't want to push when too tired - the 17 was lovely (around 69/70 GI I think) but I'm working upto it on this one. I'd felt I'd plateaud with my comfort zone/rpms - I just can't roll 110+rpm for long - I'll probably drop to a 17 again when the roads get crap - I ought to improve my spin I guess.

edit: I always wondered about Square Boy - I've been in that area a ton but never been. For those East enders, I definitely recommend Diamond Pizza (Main/Lumsden) and Golden Pizza (on the north side Danforth east of Petro Canada but west of the staggered lights before Sobeys) - Greek-esque comfort type food, really good stuff from my experience - they both deliver in the East York area at least. Now I'm in Parkdale, I kinda miss Golden or Diamond (used to live across the street from Diamond, heh). There's always Rice & Noodle, but that's no souvlaki in a pita with poutine :/ ;)

32flavours 11-07-08 11:20 AM

Random thumbs up for Cycle Therapy! Got my bike built in record time, and supernice folks to boot. Thanks again, Mike.

P.S. Steeker- shapelike = formerly eyefloater = Mike

MattRennick 11-07-08 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by iherald (Post 7807878)
I'm planning a two week trip to France next summer to ride. Does anyone have any experience on a cheap way to get your bike over there? Going through some of the Expedia flights and it looks like I'm paying 50% of the airfare to put my bike on the plane. Stupid airlines

Also, anyone here have a hardshell bike box I could rent? I know stores have them for rent, but I'd rather give my money to one of you if possible.

I went to Spain / Italy with bike this spring and they were supposed to charge me $150 CDN for my bike on the way there and $150 EUR for my bike on the way back... I was charged neither...

I've flown out to Vancouver a few times and have only ever been charged once, on the way back, $40.

Keep in mind, a lot of airlines are tightening up... I went to DC last week and they charged me $15 for my first piece of checked luggage and $25 for the second (each way) - I have no doubt that they'd have charged me the full $75 (each way) for my bike had I brought it... which I nearly did, glad I didn't.

kylehutton 11-07-08 02:55 PM

pretty sweet looking bike on ebay

http://i3.ebayimg.com/07/i/001/1a/0f/5516_1.JPG

pyze-guy 11-07-08 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by STEEKER (Post 7806208)
what's cycle therapy ? never heard of it , I rode around the city after work tonight and out bloor/danforth and saw alot of fixed/single speeds , I gave a small wave to each but just got stares, so much for the next generation of riders f*ck um ,,,,,,, so who's going to the race Sat/Sun

I saw you the other night going west passing Logon, next time I'll give a shout out.

pyze-guy 11-07-08 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by shapelike (Post 7807810)
Why is everyone in Leslieville who's cool moving away? Next Pyze is going to get called up to Iron Chef and take off to Japan or something ...

Nah, going to go on Hells Kitchen and kick Ramseys *****.

~Stuart~ 11-07-08 04:29 PM

that would be awesome

shapelike 11-07-08 07:54 PM

Anyone know the best route to Centennial Park from Bloor/Ossington-ish? I've got to get to the race via bike tomorrow and I'd like to keep that bit as stress-free as possible.

STEEKER 11-07-08 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by 32flavours (Post 7808567)
Random thumbs up for Cycle Therapy! Got my bike built in record time, and supernice folks to boot. Thanks again, Mike.

P.S. Steeker- shapelike = formerly eyefloater = Mike

yea I know it's Mikeee :) I'm just playing with him , post pic's of the bike

Turd Ferguson 11-07-08 08:40 PM


Originally Posted by 32flavours (Post 7808567)
Random thumbs up for Cycle Therapy! Got my bike built in record time, and supernice folks to boot. Thanks again, Mike.

P.S. Steeker- shapelike = formerly eyefloater = Mike

Ditto.. great bikes, excellent staff. One of the few shops with high end road bikes without the pretentious roadie atmosphere.

STEEKER 11-07-08 08:46 PM


Originally Posted by pyze-guy (Post 7810019)
I saw you the other night going west passing Logon, next time I'll give a shout out.

okies I'll shout back :thumb:

ya last night was wierd for me ,most of the time I was slowly putzing along all over the city cause I did'nt want to go home , I did danforth three times china town twice kensington market a few times too. maybe I should start smoking pot again

clipin 11-07-08 09:05 PM

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For all you gear-inch people checkout this chart in a book titled Bicycle Gearing by Dick Marr that I picked up years ago. BTW I ride on the street 47/17 or 75 gear inches; lots of pull and lots of smooth spin. Hopefully this gif chart loads; if not PM me with your email address for a direct copy.

STEEKER 11-07-08 09:11 PM

I have 44x16 but I feel the need for a little more cause I spin out all the time on the bloor bridge

tdot-miele 11-07-08 11:13 PM

someone should make a quick reference chart like that for "skid patches" hahaha Is anyone doing the ride for cancer?? I think i'm gonna try it with my fixed build up...

So as a rule of thumb for street riding , i'd wanna shoot for some thing between 75 and 90 GI? maybe a 52x16 or 15??

pyze-guy 11-07-08 11:51 PM


Originally Posted by tdot-miele (Post 7812593)
someone should make a quick reference chart like that for "skid patches" hahaha Is anyone doing the ride for cancer?? I think i'm gonna try it with my fixed build up...

So as a rule of thumb for street riding , i'd wanna shoot for some thing between 75 and 90 GI? maybe a 52x16 or 15??

I ride 42x14(16 in the winter/snow) and 45x15 on another bike, both fixed mtbs and like both. Personally I think 52x15/16 would be horrible to ride in the city, trying to stop and start up all the time would take all the fun out of it for me.

sr20det 11-08-08 12:18 AM

http://rideyourbike.com/images/skidspots.jpg
pulled off a goggle search :)

jeremywhitehorn 11-08-08 12:23 AM


Originally Posted by pyze-guy (Post 7810041)
Nah, going to go on Hells Kitchen and kick Ramseys *****.

lucky for you he's opening a restaurant in toronto...

jeremywhitehorn 11-08-08 12:29 AM


Originally Posted by tdot-miele (Post 7812593)
someone should make a quick reference chart like that for "skid patches" hahaha Is anyone doing the ride for cancer?? I think i'm gonna try it with my fixed build up...

So as a rule of thumb for street riding , i'd wanna shoot for some thing between 75 and 90 GI? maybe a 52x16 or 15??

riding 90GI on the street would seem to me an excersise in torture. personally i'd shoot for anything between 60 and 75. it also helps that this is a pragmatic choice when you're building up your bike: a 16 tooth track cog is probably the most common (in dura ace anyway) and it's easy to find either a 39 or a 42 tooth inner chainring from a 130bcd double kicking around somewhere...

jeremywhitehorn 11-08-08 12:30 AM

three in a row baby!

M!kest 11-08-08 04:51 AM

Anyone know of? or could suggest a place that could order a Mercier Kilo frameset? I know bikesdirect.com has them, but in their FAQ they do not do international shipping. I would need a 47 cm frame and Mercier is one of the companies that produce frames smaller than a 50 cm (thats if the 47 cm is measured c-c accurately) besides the IRO Heidi but that runs 650 cc which doesn't help because I have a set of 700 cc that i plan on using. Bareknucles have a 48 cm but apparently they run larger. Marinoni is not in the budget but they also have a 48 cm. Smaller frames to accomidate people shorter in statuer are really hard to come by in the T.O.
Thanks for any imput that maybe posted here.

2wheelsgood 11-08-08 07:33 AM

last time i was at bikes on wheels i saw a 46cm(i didn't even know they made 'em that small) iro frame hanging from the ceiling. not sure if it was a heidi or not though. who knows, take the heidi for a ridey. maybe you likey?

2wheelsgood 11-08-08 07:44 AM

wouldn't you get a crazy amount of toe overlap running 700c wheels on a 47cm frame anyways?

jet sanchEz 11-08-08 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by M!kest (Post 7813170)
Anyone know of? or could suggest a place that could order a Mercier Kilo frameset? I know bikesdirect.com has them, but in their FAQ they do not do international shipping. I would need a 47 cm frame and Mercier is one of the companies that produce frames smaller than a 50 cm (thats if the 47 cm is measured c-c accurately) besides the IRO Heidi but that runs 650 cc which doesn't help because I have a set of 700 cc that i plan on using. Bareknucles have a 48 cm but apparently they run larger. Marinoni is not in the budget but they also have a 48 cm. Smaller frames to accomidate people shorter in statuer are really hard to come by in the T.O.
Thanks for any imput that maybe posted here.

Mercier is owned by BikesDirect so they are the only people to order from. I think that they ship via UPS so, perhaps you could ship it to a UPS store in Buffalo or Niagara Falls and then drive down and pick it up. It might be worth it for you since a 47cm frame is so hard to come by and the Kilo TT is a pretty good bike.

kergin 11-08-08 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by jet sanchEz (Post 7813731)
Mercier is owned by BikesDirect so they are the only people to order from. I think that they ship via UPS so, perhaps you could ship it to a UPS store in Buffalo or Niagara Falls and then drive down and pick it up. It might be worth it for you since a 47cm frame is so hard to come by and the Kilo TT is a pretty good bike.

You really believe in those BD, bikes, eh? I guess the ones with Reynolds 520 seem more legit, but it still bothers me that BD resurrects dead brands.

jet sanchEz 11-08-08 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by kergin (Post 7813999)
You really believe in those BD, bikes, eh? I guess the ones with Reynolds 520 seem more legit, but it still bothers me that BD resurrects dead brands.

Well, for the price, they can't be beat. My understanding is that the companies just had no further interest in the North American market so let their trademarks lapse. Some of them might have gone belly up in the years since but the Botecchia bikes made in Italy (Taiwan) are really really nice and I think Windsor is still around in the U.K.

kergin 11-08-08 11:12 PM

mmm... fair enough. I figure if the company gets large enough, they can spawn a "core" brand which is based on BD itself, not on lapsed trademarks.

Lots of manufacturers have pulled out of North America: Ciocc, ALAN, etc...

Flimflam 11-08-08 11:22 PM


Originally Posted by tdot-miele (Post 7812593)
someone should make a quick reference chart like that for "skid patches" hahaha Is anyone doing the ride for cancer?? I think i'm gonna try it with my fixed build up...

So as a rule of thumb for street riding , i'd wanna shoot for some thing between 75 and 90 GI? maybe a 52x16 or 15??

Ride for cancer requires a large number in donations to qualify, which is what put me off. I can't see me being able to raise the funds to do it, the ride to Niagara Falls itself I've done before a couple of times and I'd love to go again.

I'd say stay well south of 90 - I'm pushing 80GI right now, after running ~70 the rest of the year and it's pretty tough going (one day in :p) - 90 will be hellish in the city, IMO. Go with what the others say and stick to no more than around 75, 80 if you absolutely MUST push a tall gear. I'm actually considering a 16 to make my jump less extreme, 70->80 is a big step :p 46/17 (70ish) was a perfect town gear, great acceleration, not too bad for brakeless stopping once in a while, and can get it going to reasonable speeds without too much crazy spin.

In the winter I used 42/17 which was just awesome - still felt fast, but had a bit more low-end for the trickier conditions - though I ran that on bikes with platforms, so that was another factor (lower speed/lower spin/hopefully less chance of cracking a shin bone)

Enjoy. I'll be off the bike until Monday night as I have my wee one. Didn't realise the race this weekend was Centennial, I'll try to come to Riverdale as that's the one I'd had in mind.


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