a bike stand would be damn helpful. (something I am currently saving up for)
A parks home repair stand is pretty nice.
http://www.parktool.com/products/det...3&item=PCS%2D9

People have made their own from PVC piping found at home depot.
And as for tools, I just buy when I need.

I picked up a really handy tool which is a 15mm pedal wrench on one side and a 14 and 15mm for track nuts on the other end.

Maby get a truing stand as well?

*edit*nvm.

Thats the reason why I hate buying stuff on ebay / from the states. stinking customs and duties.
Anyways, my sputnik frame finally re-arrived again today and no duties on that this time, yay!

a truing stand is one thing I want to get so I can do my own wheels :) that be cool

Things I'd like:

PCS-4 repair stand
TS-2 truing stand
PK-57 toolkit
HK-129 toolkit*
CPN-2 chrome-plated nuts

*fantasy land version.

I'd just buy the tools when you need them. Also I went to the roadie shop up in Richmond Hill and surprise they actually had 7/32 bearings for a decent 20cents each! Wow.

You got gayed with the duties. Next time maybe do two seperate orders. The tax + handling I would've been prepared to pay but duties, man i'm going to firebomb the customs office (JOKE).

I've never needed a repair stand but you could go the DIY route and fashion one out of like pvc piping. There was a thread on some DIY stands here.

My folding rubino was surprisingly much easier to mount than the wire bead one I got from urbane. I do not like the excessive decalling for the label though. Makes me look a sponsored roadie (yuck).

Here Here that would kick ass.

what are those last two on your droolful list?

http://www.parktool.com/images/produ...0639_52094.jpg

Regarding the CPN-2 ... well, I just want chrome nuts. I like the ones I already have as well, so maybe I could just end up w/ 4 nuts. I think that would be pretty awesome actually.

^^^^ mmmmm

Those would be nice to have, how much do you think all of that stuff would cost?...

I have one of those park mechanic stands and it's great, really helpful for doing everything.

How much does it cost? Well you have the BB chaser/facer which is about a grand, almost the same for the headset reamer/facer. Shop quality truing stand pictured (which isn't the best they make) about $400. So you are over 2 grand for only the 3 most expensive tools in that picture.

Andrew

Ya, when the "tool kit" includes furniture it becomes a bit harder to claim the purchase isn't at all gratuitous. ;)

yea that's what I figured...

I can still dream

well, you CAN use grease if you want. i do that to my campy freehubs. it won't ruin it and works fine and is quiet.

sd

"....but honey, if I get all the tools I need then I will never spend that 200 bucks a year getting the spring overhaul again. Call it $4K and 200 bucks a year only twenty years to pay it off!!!! :lol:

oh oh oh and this from Rob Good at the track:

"Hi Andrew, we can accomodate up to 20 riders in a session. Fee is $20 for
the session (usually 2hours min.) and $10.00 bike rental. Look at the
calander on the site pick a Saturday that has racing at night and make
arrangements to come on down and have a "Blast"

Just let us know the numbers and date."

sick! put me down for a "blast"

Do you have geared bikes as well as fixed? If so you might want to go for a tool kit. I sell a pretty sweet one for about $130.* end shameless plug*
Workstands are really nice...specially for us over 6 foot types. I like the Park deluxe clamps cause they are much easier to deal with and have an infinite amount of adjustability. I would go for one of the other stands rather than Park if you are going the cheaper/home mechanic route. The ones with a wind down type clamp are pretty nice, work with just about any size tube, and are not tons of $.

For working on fixed stuff a lockring tool is pretty much indispensable. Most of them are crap however. The only ones I like are from Campy or Hozan. If you want the REALLY nice version that you will never have a problem getting off a lockring....i recommend Hozan lockring pliers C-203. About $50 local full retail. Well worth it.
As for torque wrenches...I have 2 and use them VERY infrequently. Unless you are working on a lot of hi end components/suspension forks...i would not bother with one. But I do have a good handle on how tight things need to be after 20+ years of wrenching peoples bikes.
For nice allen keys (who was allen anyway?) I would go for Can Tire (Mastercraft) or something similar. They will replace them if you ever screw them up.

Most people I know who build wheels started off without a truing stand. If you have $ to burn go for it. If not Park makes a little doo-hickie that straps on to the fork/stay with a rubber strap and has a truing probe attached. Pretty sweet little thing. I personally don't like Parks truing stands. I have one of the old home models (discontinued) and it has served me well. The newer ones are crap. The pro models I find a pain to work with. without getting all Jobst Brant...I build tensioning drive side first...then doing the dish. You can't really do this with the pro Park models as they require you to keep the rim centered between the hub locknuts. Minoura makes a reasonable priced model...about $70 if memory serves. I am ordering the HOZAN (cue Gregorian Chanting) model for myself. It is the most heavy duty, bombproof, adjustable model going. Only $650 retail. YOWZERS!!

Put me down for a "blast" with a side order of "Hammer!".

Truing stand in question:

http://www.hozan.co.jp/cycle_e/catal.../img/C-330.jpg

Lock ring pliers in question:

http://www.hozan.co.jp/cycle_e/catal.../img/C-203.jpg

Oh yeah....any idea what the Magic Bus will cost us.. other than our innocence?

AHHHHHHHH....AHHHHHH....AHHHHHHH!!!

Moist towelette, sir?

That trueing stand looks sick, hey Cavern how much do you charge to build up a frame (well more to the point I need a headset and bottom bracket installed, maybe my cranks too) I should have my frame back by the end of the week and I've never installed a headset or BB before and I don't want to screw it up.

B.B. and headset.....$25. I am heading out to Byers-Bush/Jetkote today if anyone has anything out there thats needs pickin up.

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You got gayed with the duties. Next time maybe do two seperate orders. The tax + handling I would've been prepared to pay but duties, man i'm going to firebomb the customs office (JOKE).
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If you are not prepared to pay duty on stuff...don't order from the States. There is a reason why duties are paid on foreign made goods shipped from the U.S.

is that good old silent sports? bought my first road bike there; one of the only decent shops in RH...