Yeah, I was getting it off that torrent but the amount of seeds/peer isn't too encouraging (1 to zero).

I'll save the waves for victory laps.
;)

must be my old farty computer the file won't open for me

AH right on man we still going to do the races ???:)

You need a BT client like www.bittornado.com
The file isn't the actual file, just a file that tells you who to get the actual file from.

P.S No religious debates over which client is the best kthx.

If you're on rogers you'll need to setup the client to talk trough port 1720 only as they've been packet filtering for a while now.

coolies .thanks operator . well see'ing no one wants to ride again! , I'm off to the Leslie Spit for a second fixed ride .

Meditate on this:

My friend Glen is training in High Park on the weekend and blazes through a speed trap on his bike. The cop has got a vehicle pulled over already and proceeds to pull over the car he's riding directly behind. At this point Glen pulls around the car, maintaining his speed (around 36 km/h) only to get waved in himself. He continues on, playing dumb, figuring the cop has enough to keep him busy. Shortly after he's set upon by a cruiser with lights a flashin' and siren's a wailin'. The cop laces into him about failing to stop and speeding. He says he clocked him doing 42 in a 20 km/h zone. My friend comes clean and says he didn't think he was going to go after him and apologizes. He didn't think he was going that fast (this is the west hill). The conversation escalates and the cop tells him he's gonna burn on 2 charges. He asks the cop to cut him a break, he's training for the Provincials and he made a mistake. He asks him for I.D., and here's where it gets silly. The cop starts to lose it when my friend tells he doesn't have any. The cop threatens to throw him into the cruiser and arrest him right then and there unless he gives him a correct name and address. The thing turns into an argument and the charge then becomes... get this... careless driving (6 points because he has a driver's license, and $300 + ). Suffice it to say he's going to fight it. It might be so ridiculous a charge that it gets thrown out. It's a hell of a slap on the wrist if the intent is to screw him over with the hassle of the court date and the stress over it all, but then again who knows? If it sticks his insurance may triple.

This very thing was the topic of conversation last week on the forum, about whether your driving record could be affected by a traffic violation on a bike. We'll soon find out.

Go to court - m'aam I was on a bike not a motor vehicle. You won't get points. About the fine - probably have to pay that.

If he truly was speeding on a 20kph bikepath then there isn't anything he can do about it since he is in the wrong. Failing to stop - also a very bad idea. Your account also reinforces the need to carry some sort of ID, if not they can hold you until they can ID you.

It's too bad there aren't really any good places to train anywhere downtown. Up here there's rural roads galore. Bah to bikepaths.

This from the toronto.ca website:

Does the demerit point system apply to cycling offences under the Highway Traffic Act (HTA)? In a word, NO. But does it happen? Yes, it can. Here's how it works. Cyclists and motorists can be charged under the HTA, with similar fines applying to both ($90 for most infractions).

Section 56 of the HTA allows the province to cancel or suspend drivers' licenses through a demerit point system. However, this applies only to infractions committed while driving a motor vehicle or streetcar. In order to avoid demerit points inadvertently being assigned to your drivers license for an infraction committed on your bicycle, the following must occur:

* The police officer laying the charge must write "bicycle" in the vehicle type box on the Provincial Offenses Notice.
* If you go to court, the courts must indicate "bicycle" in the vehicle type box on the conviction notice.

If the Provincial Offenses Notice or the conviction notice is received by the Ministry of Transportation without the "bicycle" designation, demerit points will be assigned to the driving record of the individual. If this happens, call the Driver Improvement Office at 416-235-1086 to have the error corrected. Better still, follow the rules and you won't get a ticket in the first place.

The careless driving ticket is pretty much the highest cost ticket there is. If he goes to court he can probably cop to a speeding ticket if the cop shows.

This is me not saying anything at all ... and giving Somnambulant an oportunity to maliciously edit a quote of what I've written.

Edit what?

Who invited Mr. I'm-better-than-you? :)

Shut it, Mr. Me-Too.

Okay seriously, let's all hug. I love you all.

Edit: Oh my ****ing god ... http://web.mit.edu/patil/www/media/video/yatta.asf

Asian people are weird. ;)

There are ton's of places to train down here why don't you come to the Beach and try our hills and there is the spit and bluffers park too

:D Operater woooo hooooo you and your homies made a video EH I did'nt know you could sing

what...

http://web.mit.edu/patil/www/media/video/yatta.asf

Operator: I'll pass along the invitation to ride the northern environs. When Richmond Hill decides they need a mayor you get my nomination.

Cavit: The detailed info on the HTA is appreciated. Nice sleuthing. When Richmond Hill decides they need a mayor and Operator is nominated, you get my endorsement to dig up the dirt and lead the smear campaign.:)

heheheh

Hey 32flavours, I find a nice frame option for you if you're thinking about upgrading:

http://cgi.ebay.com/06-LOOK-ATHENA-T...QQcmdZViewItem

Lol @ joe

HAHA yes! that was awesome! For the record that's Japanese. I'm han *****! :p

Very nice find eyefloater. I'd be all over that if it wasn't $5200USD.

"I find a ..." Wow, I apparently need to get my ass to bed (and/or word school).

I really want that Fuji from Carvern bike shop soooooo bad

Go buy it?