Unless you are all living somewhere other than this city I can't imagine why any of you would even think about carrying or owning a gun. I'm well trained in firearms, and I know what they can do to a body, you wouldn't catch me with one at home. Bad thing waiting to happen a gun is. I'll wager not one of you has had even the slightest reason to need one. When they say it's not a toy, they mean it. A young man's bravado is quickly extinguished when you ventilate his skull. (That's the last place you're supposed to aim)

LOL. That is awesome.

I'm primarily pro gun at the very least to educate people on what a firearm is and how to use one safely. Say shooting a range or hunting (if you so desired). At the very least knowledge and use of a firearm will prevent stupid knee jerk reactions "think of the children" type situations. Example is the gun registry for which our tax dollars pay and does nothing.

The registry was supposed to keep track of weapons the country over (a colossal and short sighted gaff of epic proportions.) The ones we need to worry about aren't registered. In concept the registry is a good idea, and should include the ballistics data of every weapon in the DB. Anyone that wants a weapon should under go some serious evaluation, and give justification for the need to possess, as well as retesting, and random checks for storage violations. Just cuz ...isn't an answer. Sport shooters should store the weapon at facilities and take the firing pin home. No good can ever come of arming your population, unless of course you are expecting an invasion. All this from someone that loves shooting, but I know what I speak of.

There was a Road Forums thread a couple of months ago and the topic was "Do you carry your gun when you go on a long ride?".
I like Americans, but they really are different than us.

Handguns are designed to wound or kill people. They have no other use. Even at the shooting range you shoot at man shaped targets with them. I don't care if you shoot skeet with a shotgun or go hunting for deer with a rifle, but there is no reason why anyone should have a handgun. They are a small, concealable and deadly tool, perfect for crime and intimidation. I especially don't see why anyone would ever need to carry a concealed weapon. It seems like its just asking for trouble. If you want to carry a gun I would rather you had a big rifle strapped to your back because at least then I know you are crazy enough to go around with a gun on you.

now a bangstick....:D

well put. carrying a handgun for any reason whatsoever is akin to carrying around a poison that is designed to kill humans. if you believe in this sort of "right" you believe in murder. it's not like we're in the arctic carrying a .22 so you can defend yourself against a polar bear attack...come on.

EDIT: back to bikes: does anyone know where i can buy SOMA stuff in town? i'd like to get a pair of their doube toe clips but my LBS can't order them. keith?

There is a shop on Roncesvalles called West Side Cycle and he sells the SOMA track frame, maybe he has other stuff too? He is pretty expensive though, I think that the SOMA Rush frame/fork is 750$ in his shop. Also, he is a bit weird, just a warning.

If you are going to defend against a polar bear with a .22, can I have your bikes?

I have a gun, I use it bird hunting, ducks, pheasant, the yummy stuff (cross-bow for deer). Hand guns and autmatic weapons are for people hunting. And the gun regristration program? Don't get me started on that. Biggest waste of money ever.

There is only one distributor of Soma stuff in Canada....ACS distributing. They didn't have the double's in last years cat. I havn't got the 2007 one yet. I would imagine yer LBS is getting their stuff from them. They don't carry the full Soma line so they may not be able to order certain items. The Rush frameset shouldn't be more than $650.....even that is kinda high.
Don't go polar bear hunting with a .22....you will have big probs. Maybe a .303 or 30-06.

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Hmm gonna cut down some MTB CF risers are you? For your urbanite I’m guessing?

Soma stuff, you can order directly from them i believe? There is one guy on evil bay that sells some stuff of there’s.
Cheers

chopping CF...... :eek: not something I'd be comfy with.

sweep, couldn't help but notice SP in your lastfm .sig ..i clicked it and bam! mythmaker??? i got "the greater wrong of the right" and thought they weren't the same as a duo (for more than the obvious reasons:rolleyes: ) have you listened to mythmaker yet? i might have to pick up the cd....

I cut an inch or so off either side of my mtb bars no trouble at all...

Fine hacksaw and I finished it off with a dremel (although now that I'm older and wiser I'd use a dust mask when working on cf)

Looks like they're calling for snow for CM!

Here i am looking for a band called mythmaker! Duh, had no idea they released a new record. So no i have not heard it yet but i just might D/L it!
Its kind of funny looking at my sig & seeing that.
Good times i miss the indust club days!
Cheers

Shyte, it's so c-c-cold out. I foolishly went to class on my bike only wearing my cycling cap and helmet. I think I might lose the top half of each ear. Dress warm you scallywags!

WHOA! Check out the Don Walker Track Tandem.

http://www.donwalkercycles.com/image...ery/index.html

Find a partner you trust before hoping on! :eek:

last month's ride was much faster than usual. that being said, despite my (mec lobster) gloves, balaclava, hat, neck bandana and leg warmers (+1) i was very, very glad i only had to go a short distance. i guess i'll just have to play it by, er, feel!

edit: i can't believe how many folks i saw on my way home that weren't wearing hats! people might think I'M crazy for riding my bike, but at least I know how to dress for the weather.

I don't agree with this. Shooting for sport (olympics) is different from using it to kill someone. Just because something can be used to kill someone doens't make it inherently evil, nor can you just slag it off on the "no other use" category. By this line of reasoning anything that can be used to harm someone should be banned?

If the sole goal of the object is to kill another person, yeah, it should be banned. If you REALLY want to shoot for sport, shoot a shotgun or a rifle. Seriously, its the same thing. The only reason to want a handgun is to look or feel cool and tough, or to kill or wound someone. If you want to pretend to be Jack Bauer, go south.

My IVI sport shooting involved a nice light .22long rifle with custom hand grip. Always wanted to try biathlon. You can goto the range with your 9.

My step father has a shotgun and a beautiful Beretta9. His competitions involve mock towns with targets jumping out from hiding spots, a little too close to military situational simulators for my liking. All are in the states and they were more concerned at the border about the tee shirts he was bringing back than the weapons in his trunk.

yup that's the LBS i was refering to. yes, william is a little weird but a nice enough guy and his mechanics are good.

no, just the things that are designed to kill people should be banned. if you are claiming that handguns have other legitimate, practical uses other than harm and murder, you're reaching.

But why? People who are going to use guns to kill people and commit crimes will get them regardless of any written laws.

Designing weapons to kill people is a necessary evil. I'm sure you're familiar with the concept of MAD. Anyways - I like bikes.

I thought everyone that was into bikes was a little weird? That's cool with me :)

I'm not for thug violence, but telling a legit target shooter to use a rifle instead of a handgun is like telling someone to ride a bike with a freewheel 'cause it's the same thing as a fixed.

I think its more like telling someone who drives a Navigator that they have to drive a Camry because they are destroying the planet.

PS. Marijuana is illegal. Handguns are legal. Something has got to be wrong here.

Keith mentioned approximately 80$ in duties on delivery if anyone is thinking about the IRO buy. I'm torn.