I'll make you a shirt that says,

"BikeForums ruined my education."

WASHERS!!!!!!!

Ideas for an ultra cheap fixed wheel.

1. Suicide hub (no lockring freewheel hub)
2. Re-space / Redish
3. Locktite threads and cog
4. Rotofix

Muhahahha!
That's what my sister is getting.
Don't worry. she'll get a brake too.

Otherwise a Formula, Surly or Miche hub will do the trick.
They all cost about $75-90 for the hub.

As for rims... there are a bazillion to choose from.

For real though? spend the money now and buy something nice cause you'll want to upgrade in 3 months time.

I'd love to know where your finding Miche hubs for 75-90...


And for all the safety meeting folk out there THIS is how you have a safety meeting, in the back of the van going back up the hill.

Righteous.

Or buy a set of Phil's, and then spend the next 3 months saving up for the rims and spokes

Yeah, I hear that... but I think if I don't set a budget then I'll never finish the bike. Originally I wanted a fancy set of new cranks, but just ended up going with what I had to save money. Perhaps I should go the Phil/OP route though if I can swing the cash- The hubs would be worth more than I paid for the bike but they are transferrable to a new frame I suppose.

Nice wind today... it's like riding into a wall heading west!

It's worth getting the good stuff. You hear all the time about people who ride a lot getting an "affordable hub-set", and they pooch out. Sure they last a year or two, but in the long run, you end up spending more buying some new hubs, and having it rebuilt every couple of years than getting one solid set to start. Get some nice gear, and keep it for years.

He was asking about rear hubs, not a pair.

Exactly.

I started out being semi cheap going to a sealed Quando hub.
Spent $75 on the hub and in two months time stripped it learning how to skid.

Then I ended up spending $90 more to replace it with a Miche.
So far it's been good to me.
$15 more goes a long way in terms of quality.

SEALED CARTRIDGE BEARINGS ARE YOUR FRIEND.
Deep threads and quality lockrings also enjoy play time.

Ah thanks for the clarification Lymb, I must say that the Miche hubs have been fantastic since I got mine. The only annoying feature is the fact that they are single sided so no gearing switches in the middle of rides.

Other then that they've been totally rock solid for me.

I'm actually very satisfied with the single sidedness.
One finds the perfect gear and sticks with it.

Having to loosen, flip and retighten is sort of annoying.
I'd go so far as to say silly because most of the time I ride directional patterned tires.

Fixed / fixed WTF?
Fixed / null FTW

I have a Phil flip-flop, double fixed, and I have never had another cog on the other side. If I ever bought another set of hubs, I would still get that as an option though. It's nice knowing it's there.

What ever happened to the "NJS" tshirt idea!?!?!?!? get on that!

I mostly want a double sided so I could put a freewheel on the otherside for descending. When I'm coming south from like Avenue and Wilson it would be nice to enjoy those rollers a little more then I do right now with the consta-spin.

double-fixed flip-flops are good if you ever plan on running your bike on the track and street too.. that way you can try and get 2 ratios that are street AND track friendly while still fitting in the dropouts.

also, food for thought: my quando hub has treated me just fine. Nearly 2 years of daily commuting, year round, plus some longer distance rides outside the city and it's still going fine (*knock on wood*). I've had it rebuilt once (with Phil bearings, ironically enough), but I think that's expected for a bike that got parked outside for about a year and was ridden through the winters. YMMV, however. Personally I'd be ****baked about my bike getting stolen if I had phils or something on my fixie. That's the whole point of this bike.. I can lock it up and not be overly concerned. Again, depends on what you plan on doing with the bike and how paranoid you are.

I think the best thing about fixed/fixed hubs is if you strip out one side, the hub is still good to run fixed gear. Try telling that to my suzue basic flip flop... As far as switching gears on the fly goes, I never do it. Like, ever... especially not in this town.

Meh its the first week. Nothing too important happening usually. First week classes are basically optional. Especially the 9am ones. If you are posting during class in March, then we'll have to just ride over there and make SURE you pay attention Mister. (I have no idea how that would even work)

Danhalen -

you're image is very disturbing..

Ugh so I go to get a 'cupping' of 'americano' this afternoon and the so called 'barista' 'pulls' me a 'cafe crema' instead of an 'americano'! Unforgivable! Not only that, but I have to stand there while she pushes the button on their machine 5 times while she tries to fill up my cup a shot at a time. Oh well, I'm sure if she had made me what I ordered she would have added boiling water to the shot afterwards, destroying its balance, so maybe I should be thankful. /snob

And so goes my PATH system coffee adventure. There must be something in the air down there. Anyone know any decent coffee shops near union station? I'm dying paying 2.50 a cup for these crappy americanos.

No Coffee Time around?

Oh, you should try coming down to 1 Yogne, and try to find a good cuppa.

You mean THIS one?

it's bearded as well? Frrreakkky

reminds me of: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--JIiZOgKY0