New cranks... Ultegra or 105
05-26-15, 09:52 PM
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That is just ridiculous. Just ride your bike. Give the $200 to a local charity and help people who need food or clothing. You will feel a lot better.
05-27-15, 08:51 AM
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I already give quite a bit to charity and raise a lot of money for the Miami Dolphin Cycling Challenge, but hey thanks for telling me how to spend my money.
05-27-15, 08:55 AM
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Excellent point... much better post than those telling me how to spend MY money (charity or with some overseas company). I never looked at it that way but great point! Thanks! Ride safe my friend!
05-27-15, 10:08 AM
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Traditionally, Ultegra has much better chainrings (shifting-wise) than 105. Better ramps, better formed teeth, better coatings, and stiffer. If you can make the jump to Ultegra, my advice is to do it.
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05-27-15, 02:10 PM
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That's not true anymore. I have not noticed a significant difference in shifting quality (front der/chainrings) between tiagra, 105 and ultegra (all 2015 groups).
05-27-15, 02:13 PM
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Your mind "works" something like this:
Q: 'What should I do?'
A: be intelligent and save your money.
Your response: 'Waaaaaaaah! Stop telling me what to dooooooo!!!
Dude, grow up.
05-27-15, 02:14 PM
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Between 4600 and 5800/6800...really? Some pretty big design changes there, most folks claim a significant difference in the newest 11 speed Shimano front shifting.
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05-27-15, 02:25 PM
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The question posed wasn't should I or shouldn't I, it was which one. The very nature of that question is such that I've already decided to spend MY money on one of them. So I was seeking recommendations on which one NOT between upgrading or not.
05-27-15, 02:46 PM
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New 5800 cranksets are about $100 at Merlin Cycles. For $100, it's hard to beat.
05-27-15, 02:48 PM
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Now I don't really understand what this thread is about...
05-27-15, 02:52 PM
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Folks, don't buy Ultegra. Tiagra is just as good. It's all been settled by this guy on the internet. Be sure to run all your purchasing activity through sam_cyclist for approval in the future. He's got opinions and he's been judged the ultimate judge so his unfounded opinions are the only ones that count!
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05-27-15, 03:00 PM
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Hmm... I do suppose you are the ultimate judge of things. Okay.
Folks, don't buy Ultegra. Tiagra is just as good. It's all been settled by this guy on the internet. Be sure to run all your purchasing activity through sam_cyclist for approval in the future. He's got opinions and he's been judged the ultimate judge so his unfounded opinions are the only ones that count!
Folks, don't buy Ultegra. Tiagra is just as good. It's all been settled by this guy on the internet. Be sure to run all your purchasing activity through sam_cyclist for approval in the future. He's got opinions and he's been judged the ultimate judge so his unfounded opinions are the only ones that count!
05-27-15, 03:04 PM
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I could care less about matching honestly. The main reason I'm upgrading is for speed on the flats. Right now a 50x12 @ 90 rpm is 29.36 MPH whereas 53x12 @ 90 rpm is 31.12 MPH. Now I rarely go into the small gear because there are no long descents seeing that the only climbs are drawbridges, but on flats ocean side roads the bigger crank allows me more speed or a few less rom. And even if it's all BS there is the psychological factor, if I think it's faster and more efficient then there's a bump.
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05-27-15, 03:07 PM
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I can't tell the difference between 4600 and 6700. But new gear never fails to impress me and I suspect the same could be said for others.
05-27-15, 03:10 PM
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I could care less about matching honestly. The main reason I'm upgrading is for speed on the flats. Right now a 50x12 @ 90 rpm is 29.36 MPH whereas 53x12 @ 90 rpm is 31.12 MPH. Now I rarely go into the small gear because there are no long descents seeing that the only climbs are drawbridges, but on flats ocean side roads the bigger crank allows me more speed or a few less rom. And even if it's all BS there is the psychological factor, if I think it's faster and more efficient then there's a bump.
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05-27-15, 03:11 PM
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I'm not talking about 6700 - that would be very similar to 4600. 5800/6800 would have more going on than just being 'newer' than 4600.
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Okay, but unless the new stuff can make a latte or iron my shirts, I just don't see how my front shifting is going to get much better. I'm not dropping chains...
05-27-15, 03:15 PM
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I could care less about matching honestly. The main reason I'm upgrading is for speed on the flats. Right now a 50x12 @ 90 rpm is 29.36 MPH whereas 53x12 @ 90 rpm is 31.12 MPH. Now I rarely go into the small gear because there are no long descents seeing that the only climbs are drawbridges, but on flats ocean side roads the bigger crank allows me more speed or a few less rom. And even if it's all BS there is the psychological factor, if I think it's faster and more efficient then there's a bump.
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Okay, Botox, you've had your turn. Why you jumping on me? Did your momma forget to wash your sheets again?
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a very smooth shift to the big ring, and dropped chains are different issues. Proper tuning should eliminate dropped chains, but better shift ramps on the big ring(and tooth profile) improves shifts to the big ring.
05-27-15, 03:33 PM
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