MTB Clipless: Will they laugh at me?
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I use the same Time MTB pedals for all my bikes. Just screw them on to whatever I'm riding that day. I couldn't imagine riding in road shoes, as I bicycle pretty much everywhere, and walking in road shoes doesn't make any sense. My MTB shoes get worn in the grocery store, the hardware store, my friends' houses.... come to think of it, I never took them off at work today. It would hurt to do that in road shoes.
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Originally Posted by khuon
Deda Power-D cranks and Time ATAC XS? Mmmmm... that's yummy! What discs do you have there? I'm assuming they're mechs. What's your dropout spacing on that bike? Are those cranks compact? Is this a cyclocross our touring rig? Okay... I should stop now. Maybe you should just post a picture of the whole bike. 

thanks 
avid bb road mech disc
135mm spacing
compact 172.5 cranks
cyclocross frame set up as a commuter/occasional off road bike
https://gallery.roadbikereview.com/sh...&ppuser=246067
I'm a little envious of the K2 9k(?) - I had an old Grivin Proflex 550 while I was at school - always lusted after the better girvin/proflex/k2 bikes. Can't justify 2k for an epic marathon at the moment though.
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#28
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If they laugh at you, just beat them up and remind them you aren't in high school anymore, then apologize for reverting to violence like when you were in high school.
I have SPD Pedals and MTB shoes and am very happy with them. I can walk around and not feel like a total dork. As a bonus I can wear a single pair of shoes to the gym and lift before spinning class without getting weird looks.
I have SPD Pedals and MTB shoes and am very happy with them. I can walk around and not feel like a total dork. As a bonus I can wear a single pair of shoes to the gym and lift before spinning class without getting weird looks.
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The truth is that the huge majority of riders simply don't care what pedals, or anything else for that matter, that you care to use.
There is a minority that is definitely going to laugh at you. I know this for sure because they find a reason to laugh or criticize absolutely everybody. Bike's too good or not good enough. Jersey and shorts mismatched or everything is too matchy-matchy. Too many spacers in the stem, wrong handlebar tape, wrong water bottle cage or even (gasp) a camelback. Don't let them catch you using the big chainring/big cog combination. You get the idea. Just don't take it personally.
There is a minority that is definitely going to laugh at you. I know this for sure because they find a reason to laugh or criticize absolutely everybody. Bike's too good or not good enough. Jersey and shorts mismatched or everything is too matchy-matchy. Too many spacers in the stem, wrong handlebar tape, wrong water bottle cage or even (gasp) a camelback. Don't let them catch you using the big chainring/big cog combination. You get the idea. Just don't take it personally.
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Originally Posted by RedHairedScot
Thanks! 68 more miles on the roadie-with-mtb-clipless today, and I can walk right into the ice cream shop...
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Originally Posted by Steelrider
Undeniable fact: road shoes are more efficient
Using SPD cleats and SPD road pedals - A515 and A520 for example - the overall platform is just as large as any "road" pedals I have seen. And no matter how much (in my case, limited
) power I apply, I never pull out of the pedal accidentally. Hotspots are a myth unless you don't have decent soles that allow the pressure of the smaller cleat to be distributed well. What's left in the "efficient" definition???
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The eggbeaters let you use either a dedicated stiff carbon soled road shoe with a road specific cleat or a recessed cleat touring shoe with a mtn cleat.
There are eggbeaters with platforms too.
There are eggbeaters with platforms too.
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So say we all.
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Originally Posted by jlin453
What area do you usually ride in?
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I'm not convinced that road type pedals (i.e. bigger platforms) vs. spd style are more efficient. All of the power is being transferred from the foot to the cleat to the pedao to the spindle regardless.
The hotspot phenonmenon has little to do with the cleat and more to do with the shoes footbed and your own foot and the nerves in it (trust me, I know a little about foot anatomy). If you experienced the hotspot phenomenon and switched the cleat type you changed multiple variables - only one of which was the cleat type.
Anyway. I run single sided SPD's with cheap shimano lace-up SPD compatible shoes. All I can say is get shoes with VELCRO or similar straps - my laces have gotten caught a few times and they often come out of the shoe when I stuff the loops in there. It's also hard to tighten and loosen the shoe while on the bike if you've got laces.
The hotspot phenonmenon has little to do with the cleat and more to do with the shoes footbed and your own foot and the nerves in it (trust me, I know a little about foot anatomy). If you experienced the hotspot phenomenon and switched the cleat type you changed multiple variables - only one of which was the cleat type.
Anyway. I run single sided SPD's with cheap shimano lace-up SPD compatible shoes. All I can say is get shoes with VELCRO or similar straps - my laces have gotten caught a few times and they often come out of the shoe when I stuff the loops in there. It's also hard to tighten and loosen the shoe while on the bike if you've got laces.
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Originally Posted by Bontrager
I'm not convinced that road type pedals (i.e. bigger platforms) vs. spd style are more efficient. All of the power is being transferred from the foot to the cleat to the pedao to the spindle regardless.
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When I put the Shimano 424 mtb pedals on my road bike some of my friends said that I was taking a step backward. But I didn't care because I put these pedals on for me. They were in terms of comfort and performance more suitable for me than any road pedal that I have tried. Everyone is different so do what make sense to you because you have to live with it. And I love mtb shoes you can walk around in them and not have this annoying obstruction at the bottom of the sole while you are walking. One time my friend slipped and fell while walking on his road shoes with spd's, so I am definitely glad to have mtb shoes with my spd cleats.
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Originally Posted by rmwun54
When I put the Shimano 424 mtb pedals on my road bike some of my friends said that I was taking a step backward. But I didn't care because I put these pedals on for me. They were in terms of comfort and performance more suitable for me than any road pedal that I have tried. Everyone is different so do what make sense to you because you have to live with it. And I love mtb shoes you can walk around in them and not have this annoying obstruction at the bottom of the sole while you are walking. One time my friend slipped and fell while walking on his road shoes with spd's, so I am definitely glad to have mtb shoes with my spd cleats.
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Originally Posted by blandin
As for shoes, Lake makes a couple of shoes that are in between road and MTB, I use a now discontinued model, the CX125. They have very stiff soles and have raised rubber cleats front and read that allow me to walk with impunity.
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Originally Posted by khuon
The CX120 is Lake's current model of what was the CX125. I used to wear CX125 and they were great shoes... very walkable even when I tried them with Look cleats.
EDIT: I went out and found them. Picture shoes the walking surface on the bottom of the shoe.
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'05 KHS Flite 2000 - Ultegra 9 speed -... '06 Flyte SRS-3 - DA 9 speed-------
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Originally Posted by gmason
Explain please.
Using SPD cleats and SPD road pedals - A515 and A520 for example - the overall platform is just as large as any "road" pedals I have seen. And no matter how much (in my case, limited
) power I apply, I never pull out of the pedal accidentally. Hotspots are a myth unless you don't have decent soles that allow the pressure of the smaller cleat to be distributed well.
What's left in the "efficient" definition???
Using SPD cleats and SPD road pedals - A515 and A520 for example - the overall platform is just as large as any "road" pedals I have seen. And no matter how much (in my case, limited
) power I apply, I never pull out of the pedal accidentally. Hotspots are a myth unless you don't have decent soles that allow the pressure of the smaller cleat to be distributed well. What's left in the "efficient" definition???
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All true. I just hate to see new riders (and old hands too, I suppose) not even considering SPD setups because of what others think about what they will look like, or through misunderstanding of the issues. The walking safety issue really can be important, especially for us elderly types. 
I have only been riding three and a half years (after a 25 year layoff), but I started back with SPDs because of the walking issue. I have had Northwave and Shimano shoes, as well as the Shimano sandal (which was great in the hot weather when doodling around North Holland on my city bike). I have never experienced the "hotspot" issue with any of them.
I originally used Shimano and VP double sided pedals because I thought it would be easier to be able to clip in from both sides. While that was marginally true, I have migrated to the Shimano A515 and more recently the A520 road pedals. They provide much more support - all around the shoe within the pontoons in fact - and they feel more solid as well.
But having said that, I climb every ride here, and have done le Mont Ventoux with the smaller pedals too. No problems at all. Ever. So the real answer is, as always, "do what you think works best for you".

I have only been riding three and a half years (after a 25 year layoff), but I started back with SPDs because of the walking issue. I have had Northwave and Shimano shoes, as well as the Shimano sandal (which was great in the hot weather when doodling around North Holland on my city bike). I have never experienced the "hotspot" issue with any of them.
I originally used Shimano and VP double sided pedals because I thought it would be easier to be able to clip in from both sides. While that was marginally true, I have migrated to the Shimano A515 and more recently the A520 road pedals. They provide much more support - all around the shoe within the pontoons in fact - and they feel more solid as well.
But having said that, I climb every ride here, and have done le Mont Ventoux with the smaller pedals too. No problems at all. Ever. So the real answer is, as always, "do what you think works best for you".





