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It finally happened: I DROPED THE HAMER!

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Old 08-10-15, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by exime
plot twist: he was such a nice guy that he sped up and got in front of you to let you draft off of him.
With that B. O.? Hellz no. It was like following a skunk, only nastier.

But also, why would I want to draft off someone going 2mph slower than I was already? Talk about your road to hell!
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Originally Posted by goenrdoug
was there any waving?
There was no waving. If he'd waved, I might not have gotten so pissed that I DROPED THE HAMER on him!
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Originally Posted by Darth Steele
welcome... let us know when you are able to dial up 400 watts.. only then can you truly consider yourself a full member of the 41.

did you at least give an expressless look as you went pass him?
Lol! I gave him a look, fer sure, I don't know if it was "the look," but I'm fairly certain it said what I was thinking...if you catch my draft...i mean my drift...
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Originally Posted by Wheever
So I'm a noob. Only been riding for a year. 54 yrs old, recently quit smoking. Not a Clyde, just not much of a sporting boy.

Anyway, yesterday I was going for my first half-century, riding on rt 27 from Sag Harbor to Montauk, and I was riding along at a pretty decent clip for me, around 17-18mph. So I'm about 20 miles into my ride and some guy comes up on my left and passes me, pulls in front and immediately slows down. Doesn't say anything, doesn't look at me, nuthin! Rude dude.

You know those guys that are all long lean muscle? Tall and lanky. Minimal kit, no saddle bag--totally serious? And they pass you, and maybe you try to follow for a bit but there's just no way in hell you can keep up because they're holding 21mph up a long grade...then they're gone? He was one of those guys. I hate those guys.

So I'm drafting him at ~17mph and mostly coasting, and, call me weird, but I just can't stay there in his contrail of nasty man smell. Now, maybe he's ridden all the way from NYC or something, but why bother to pass me if you're just going to slow down? So I get mad, AND I DROPED THE HAMER! I pass him, and sort of give him this look, and nod, and then take off.

Since I started riding, I haven't really been able to hold 145bpm without seeing spots, but, dammit, I was going to get this guy behind me if it killed me! So I'm HAMERING away, 20...21...22mph, and my heart rate is climbing, and I'm starting to huff and puff, and I get to 140bpm, and I'm expecting to have to back off...but I hold it there and start breathing deeply and keep going! It was the most amazing feeling! For the first part he was drafting me, but as I kept HAMERING he slowly dropped back! And then I was that guy! After a bit he was just a spot in my rear-view, and I never saw him again.

So what a milestone day! I finished my first half-century, AND I DROPED THE HAMER!
You're probably OK with the higher heart rate. I'm only about two years younger than you, and I get my HR up to 175 for short bursts without passing out. Holding 150+ bpm for extended periods of time should not be an issue.

Start worrying if it doesn't drop when you lay off though. That would signal to me that I should get it checked out.
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alright, alright... brava mano....

now do it every time you go out and ride.... ;^)
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alright, alright... brava mano....

now do it every time you go out and ride.... ;^)
Well, that is the dream, right? I'm working on it!
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In my 30 years of riding the only time someone passes and pulls in front of you is to let you draft although this is most common in club rides and organized rides. I have pulled in front of plenty of people without waving or introducing myself and let them draft me, always with the same effect, they are grateful and we usually start at conversation down the road or at the finish. You say you were doing 17-18 when pulled past you and slowed to 17, so my guess is he was trying to match your speed and probably underestimated. My reaction would have been draft for a few minutes and then to pull in front of him and set the pace I preferred 18, 19, 20... whatever and let him draft you. Waving while you are passing someone is not so easy, and looking back would have been dangerous. Maybe he should have said something in passing, but maybe he was a newbie as well and doesn't know the secret handshake yet.
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Originally Posted by kingfishr
In my 30 years of riding the only time someone passes and pulls in front of you is to let you draft although this is most common in club rides and organized rides. I have pulled in front of plenty of people without waving or introducing myself and let them draft me, always with the same effect, they are grateful and we usually start at conversation down the road or at the finish. You say you were doing 17-18 when pulled past you and slowed to 17, so my guess is he was trying to match your speed and probably underestimated. My reaction would have been draft for a few minutes and then to pull in front of him and set the pace I preferred 18, 19, 20... whatever and let him draft you. Waving while you are passing someone is not so easy, and looking back would have been dangerous. Maybe he should have said something in passing, but maybe he was a newbie as well and doesn't know the secret handshake yet.
Nah, he was no newbie. He was one of those hardcases who don't even deign to have a saddlebag. Riding some expensive-looking Look Aero Bike. And I don't believe he passed me so as to allow me to draft. It was all too unfriendly. I think the most likely scenario, as someone suggested upthread, that he used me as a rabbit, and then once past me, had less in the tank than he thought he did. He did try to keep up when I DROPED THE HAMER, but fell back after a bit.

Like I said, he could have ridden in from NYC for all I know, (~110 miles) so I'm not really patting myself on the back for HAMERING him. I just liked the small victory, especially in the context of my first half-century.
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Originally Posted by kingfishr
In my 30 years of riding the only time someone passes and pulls in front of you is to let you draft although this is most common in club rides and organized rides. I have pulled in front of plenty of people without waving or introducing myself and let them draft me, always with the same effect, they are grateful and we usually start at conversation down the road or at the finish. You say you were doing 17-18 when pulled past you and slowed to 17, so my guess is he was trying to match your speed and probably underestimated. My reaction would have been draft for a few minutes and then to pull in front of him and set the pace I preferred 18, 19, 20... whatever and let him draft you. Waving while you are passing someone is not so easy, and looking back would have been dangerous. Maybe he should have said something in passing, but maybe he was a newbie as well and doesn't know the secret handshake yet.
Every time somebody pulls in front of me on the freeway with 1/4 car length to spare, I assume it's because they were concerned about my financial well being and decided to give me a draft for better gas efficiency. (That's why they slow down to 55 mph in the left lane.)
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Nobody chases down a rabbit pulls in front and slows down. He would have slowed down behind you unnoticed, caught his breath and then dropped the hammer and blown by you. This is a case for Columbo, the evidence just doesn't add up...
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Congratulations! you can now sport this new jersey

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Maybe what happened was that you were inclined to kept working as hard despite the advantage of the draft he was providing (while he maintained his effort, but lacked the advantage your draft had recently given him), so it just seemed like he intentionally slowed down in front of you. Add the fact that the guy smelled and suddenly the effort required to get and stay ahead of him (rather than drop back and remain effectively downwind) became inconsequential.

In any event, I can just imagine what it was like, and it sure seems like fun; good story!
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I ride on paved paths with many "cyclists" and other bike riders. A few of them are extremely good at the sport.

If I come up on someone, I usually make damn sure I can drop them before passing. If I have doubts, I'll hang back and build up reserves, passing them after I get my second wind. When I see someone coming up on me, I step on it to try to keep them from passing. Sometimes I fail at both.

Occasionally the guy I pass will step on it and end up drafting behind me. I usually end up enjoying the competition and push myself to new limits. Sometimes the guy I spot in my mirror is coming up so fast, that I know I stand no chance and let him blow right by me. This happens very rarely though these days. I'm happy about that.
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Today I was riding my mountain bike and a fellow roadie all kitted out started to catch up to me so I down shifted one gear and floored so I ran out of gearing but we tied at about 24-25 mph, I lasted about 30 seconds before my legs gave out.
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Congratulations! you can now sport this new jersey

That is F-ing brilliant!

i would totally get that jersey!

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Originally Posted by Wheever
So what a milestone day! I finished my first half-century, AND I DROPED THE HAMER!
I'd be pretty upset if I dropped my Hamer.



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Originally Posted by Tundra_Man
I'd be pretty upset if I dropped my Hamer.



I had one of those back in the early '80s. That neck was so thin that I was worried about it breaking *without* being dropped!
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Originally Posted by Wheever
That is F-ing brilliant!

i would totally get that jersey!
put a BF logo on it somewhere and I think we have the 2015 group buy...
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