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Trsnrtr 10-01-15 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets (Post 18209679)
Really? Hadn't heard about the harsh ride. Never ridden one, myself.

Wonder if they fit 28s

San (3) Renshos came to America from a Keiren background and were more or less designed for American crit racing. Very upright and very stiff. They were very popular in my area for crit racing.

Don't know about the 28s but I'd say there is a chance that they won't. Then again, that's not the normal San Rensho fork which had a narrow aero profile.

If you search out images of San Renshos, you'll see a lot of pics of track frames.

LesterOfPuppets 10-01-15 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by rjones28 (Post 18210034)

I've been tempted by those, but I'm equally tempted by the convenient size of the Squeeze Link. I'd probably drill a hole in it and put it on my keychain :)

Actually, I'd probably just get another pair of robogrips before dedicated link pliers.

Bunyanderman 10-01-15 03:47 PM

Thanks for the invite [MENTION=351576]Heathpack[/MENTION], but I think it is also on the same day as this ride Spooktacular!
Which I plan on doing if things work out with my school work/college prep.

The drive to SB is about 2:30 from where I live, making it a 5 hour round trip of driving. Which is pretty far for me in one day, especially after a 6 hour ride. I appreciate the invite, it is just a little for to make a day trip out of it.

Doug28450 10-01-15 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by Trsnrtr (Post 18209677)
Most of the crops are in in our area and the wind has reared it's ugly head, not to mention the chill is here, too. it was 47ºF at the start of our retired racer ride and 23 mph winds and gusting. Are average speed was only in the mid-16s but it was a hard, hard ride. I'm pooped. :cry:

I don't think there is a single field around here that has been harvested. It seems a bit early, but the farmers did get a late start here due to the rain in the spring.

LesterOfPuppets 10-01-15 04:15 PM

Most of the feed corn around here has been harvested. Canada Geese were loving those fields last weekend!!!

Doug28450 10-01-15 04:17 PM

What did I miss today?

Heathpack 10-01-15 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by Bunyanderman (Post 18210131)
Thanks for the invite @Heathpack, but I think it is also on the same day as this ride Spooktacular!
Which I plan on doing if things work out with my school work/college prep.

The drive to SB is about 2:30 from where I live, making it a 5 hour round trip of driving. Which is pretty far for me in one day, especially after a 6 hour ride. I appreciate the invite, it is just a little for to make a day trip out of it.

Which Spooktacular ride are you thinking of? I've heard there's some great climbs up that way.

I would be most impressed if you finished the SB Century in 6 hours, that would put you in the top 10 finishers. I'll probably be 8hrs and something. I told everyone I was going to be mellow about it but now I'm going to want to try to do it sub-8 hrs. Damn you, Bunny!

:)

Bunyanderman 10-01-15 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by Heathpack (Post 18210213)
Which Spooktacular ride are you thinking of? I've heard there's some great climbs up that way.

I would be most impressed if you finished the SB Century in 6 hours, that would put you in the top 10 finishers. I'll probably be 8hrs and something. I told everyone I was going to be mellow about it but now I'm going to want to try to do it sub-8 hrs. Damn you, Bunny!

:)

Well the 109mile/10800ft gain looks like it would be quite a challenge, and I hate to turn down a challenge.

The course does climb more than I thought it would, our local was 101/7800 and I should have finished sub 6 if I paced it better and got in a pack, rather than pulling solo for a while. First 50 miles was 2:40, and there was two guys that finished in 4:50.

Sub 6:30 looks doable, tough but doable with splitting up the downhill/flat with a pack's draft.

rpenmanparker 10-01-15 04:50 PM

Speaking of crops, I was shocked to discover that the main two crops in the NY Finger Lakes area are field corn and soybeans, just like in the Midwest. A few grape vines sprinkled in here and there. Who knew?

Heathpack 10-01-15 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by Bunyanderman (Post 18210259)
Well the 109mile/10800ft gain looks like it would be quite a challenge, and I hate to turn down a challenge.

The course does climb more than I thought it would, our local was 101/7800 and I should have finished sub 6 if I paced it better and got in a pack, rather than pulling solo for a while. First 50 miles was 2:40, and there was two guys that finished in 4:50.

Sub 6:30 looks doable, tough but doable with splitting up the downhill/flat with a pack's draft.

Hmm, my thoughts on the Hideous version that you're considering.

First, the 10,800 is a Ride with GPS elevation gain claim. I know in my Edge 1000 that would translate more to 9300-9500 feet of gain. Lol in my Edge 510, it would be 13,000. So it may be easier than you think.

Second 7000 feet of climbing over 100 miles generally speaking is 50% easier than 9000-10000 ft of climbing for me. YMMV of course. You are young & energetic.

Third The thing about that Hideous Route that makes it a little easier is that most of the climbing is in the first 35 miles. This means your legs will be fresher and it will be cooler. So you can go out a little harder with impunity. Take full advantage of the early start.

Fourth, if you know anyone who has ridden it, try to pick their brains about prevailing wind patterns and also shade. When I rode Mammoth last year, I looked at this middle section which is mostly flat, I was assuming that would be easy. Once I did it I learned that area is notorious for bad headwinds. I didn't pace appropriately.

Good luck! You should totally do it IMO.

LesterOfPuppets 10-01-15 04:59 PM

Neither corn nor soy break the top 10 here (WA state, by value of production)

Apples
Milk
Wheat
Potatoes
Cattle and calves
Hay, all
Cherries, all
Grapes, all
Pears, all
Hops

Mumonkan 10-01-15 05:27 PM

today i found out about this gizmo and now im more excited than ever to build new wheels for the ECR

until now i had settled on having a bar end twist shifter


rohloff + brifters = https://blog.swiftkey.com/content/up...-HeartEyes.png

FLvector 10-01-15 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 18210018)
It's a badge of something, I'll give you that. Wives are usually good at filling in the blank.

Among other names, my wife call me a skunk due to the stripe down the back. The smell goes with it.

I realize there's plenty of good reasons to use fenders. I just prefer not to.

Mumonkan 10-01-15 05:47 PM

if youre getting rad on anything but a road, no fenders

https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hp...52815174_n.jpg

if youre on a road, maybe fenders

Bunyanderman 10-01-15 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by Heathpack (Post 18210301)
Hmm, my thoughts on the Hideous version that you're considering.

First, the 10,800 is a Ride with GPS elevation gain claim. I know in my Edge 1000 that would translate more to 9300-9500 feet of gain. Lol in my Edge 510, it would be 13,000. So it may be easier than you think.

Second 7000 feet of climbing over 100 miles generally speaking is 50% easier than 9000-10000 ft of climbing for me. YMMV of course. You are young & energetic.

Third The thing about that Hideous Route that makes it a little easier is that most of the climbing is in the first 35 miles. This means your legs will be fresher and it will be cooler. So you can go out a little harder with impunity. Take full advantage of the early start.

Fourth, if you know anyone who has ridden it, try to pick their brains about prevailing wind patterns and also shade. When I rode Mammoth last year, I looked at this middle section which is mostly flat, I was assuming that would be easy. Once I did it I learned that area is notorious for bad headwinds. I didn't pace appropriately.

Good luck! You should totally do it IMO.

I would love to do it, I just don't have all of the logistics worked out, and it's going to be difficult to do so. I also have a 4 crit races planned for the 10th/11th, and I really enjoy doing those.

Some other stats that I find really funny for my 4 crits previously. They have ranked me as the top 1.8% for all of Cat 5, and top 1.1% for ages 1-19.

3alarmer 10-01-15 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by rpenmanparker (Post 18210278)
Speaking of crops, I was shocked to discover that the main two crops in the NY Finger Lakes area are field corn and soybeans, just like in the Midwest. A few grape vines sprinkled in here and there. Who knew?


...highly mechanized in terms of production, the markets are commoditized, and the prices have pretty good returns, for the most part. It's industrial ag at its finest, and it's hard to fault farmers for taking advantage of the current situation. Way less risky than a lot of other stuff you can grow, and with the drought out west here, your NY guys should have an advantage right now, even if their fields are smaller and less amenable to large scale machinery operations.

Heathpack 10-01-15 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by Bunyanderman (Post 18210424)
Some other stats that I find really funny for my 4 crits previously. They have ranked me as the top 1.8% for all of Cat 5, and top 1.1% for ages 1-19.

Awesome! No idea how they determine these things but it sounds great to me. :)

rjones28 10-01-15 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by rpenmanparker (Post 18210278)
Speaking of crops, I was shocked to discover that the main two crops in the NY Finger Lakes area are field corn and soybeans, just like in the Midwest. A few grape vines sprinkled in here and there. Who knew?

Me. I knew. ;)

http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/o...9C8C91F573.jpg

Bunyanderman 10-01-15 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by Heathpack (Post 18210456)
Awesome! No idea how they determine these things but it sounds great to me. :)

Not quite sure either, but they seem inflated to me. I haven't won any races, and I have only podium'ed once (3rd). Maybe racing with cat 4/5 dramatically improves one's ranking.

Mumonkan 10-01-15 06:25 PM

centralish jersey is also east cornville usa

datlas 10-01-15 06:41 PM

Wtf is "zepp???"

Doug28450 10-01-15 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 18210521)
Wtf is "zepp???"

No name Chinese Zipp.

LesterOfPuppets 10-01-15 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by rpenmanparker (Post 18210278)
Speaking of crops, I was shocked to discover that the main two crops in the NY Finger Lakes area are field corn and soybeans, just like in the Midwest. A few grape vines sprinkled in here and there. Who knew?

Also speaking of crops...

Happy First Day of Recreational Weed for Oregonians!!!

Unfortunately someone shot up a community college so it may be more of a coping device than a party helper today.

Doug28450 10-01-15 07:13 PM

What a long day.

Up early to go to 6 hours of safety training followed by five hours in the office.

LAJ 10-01-15 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by Heathpack (Post 18210301)
Hmm, my thoughts on the Hideous version that you're considering.

First, the 10,800 is a Ride with GPS elevation gain claim. I know in my Edge 1000 that would translate more to 9300-9500 feet of gain. Lol in my Edge 510, it would be 13,000. So it may be easier than you think.

Second 7000 feet of climbing over 100 miles generally speaking is 50% easier than 9000-10000 ft of climbing for me. YMMV of course. You are young & energetic.

Third The thing about that Hideous Route that makes it a little easier is that most of the climbing is in the first 35 miles. This means your legs will be fresher and it will be cooler. So you can go out a little harder with impunity. Take full advantage of the early start.

Fourth, if you know anyone who has ridden it, try to pick their brains about prevailing wind patterns and also shade. When I rode Mammoth last year, I looked at this middle section which is mostly flat, I was assuming that would be easy. Once I did it I learned that area is notorious for bad headwinds. I didn't pace appropriately.

Good luck! You should totally do it IMO.

Fifth, it's timed. You go faster with that clock ticking in the background.


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