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#801
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That looks like a paceline to me.
#802
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I also think double pacelines are silly. Needlessly complicated to those that are uninformed how a paceline is supposed to work. Which, in my opinion, in 90% of the riders out there.
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By normal double paceline, do you mean the one pictured on the left? We'll do this during warmups which allows for conversation, but when things ramp up, we'll usually go to a single paceline. As datlas mentioned, the constantly rotating paceline on the right is the most efficient if done properly.

Well except a recent slower-paced group ride that was a double paceline in which both people pulling would come off to the left. I was on the right and could figure out how to get off the front. My "partner" just pulled forever and seemingly couldn't hear what I was saying when I was telling him I wanted off. I was trapped and finally just came off to the right like a normal person.
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I think it works best with about 10-12 riders that are well in synch. Fortunately, the majority of the 30 knew what they were doing so it was pretty smooth. Fun to do something different once in a while.
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What he said. Every breakaway that I was ever in in a race operated a line like a chainsaw. Constant rotation, no sitting on the front.
The problem is that a lot of inexperienced riders want to up the pace instead of just flow through and move aside, or they want to sit on the front and pull which is fine on a lot of rides but not nearly as efficient.
The problem is that a lot of inexperienced riders want to up the pace instead of just flow through and move aside, or they want to sit on the front and pull which is fine on a lot of rides but not nearly as efficient.
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#806
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Exactly. A plain ol rotating paceline is an amazing thing. If folks would just learn what a slight soft pedal means, and quit racing the guy that's rotating off the front, it would be so much better.
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We usually ride a single pace line where the rider up front pulls off to the left (or right depending on wind direction). The double pace line is good as long as most know what they're doing. Otherwise, it can bunch up or get a lot of gaps. We had about 30 in the group, probably too many, but it worked.
My favorite is the gaggle, or a hoard of scorchers, 30-60+, just a mass moving down the street at a high rate of speed, maybe defined by some sort of echelon at the head, everyone just filtering up through gaps to the front as necessary according to the whims of the ego.
goes well with a few bottles of red being handed around, etc..
#808
When I was in Boulder I saw a four-man rotating "box" on one of my first group rides at the front. I wanted no part of being that close, so I hung a couple of lengths back. It was amazing to watch though.
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My favorite is the gaggle, or a hoard of scorchers, 30-60+, just a mass moving down the street at a high rate of speed, maybe defined by some sort of echelon at the head, everyone just filtering up through gaps to the front as necessary according to the whims of the ego.
goes well with a few bottles of red being handed around, etc..
goes well with a few bottles of red being handed around, etc..
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Mama always said, stupid is as stupid does.
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Face plant on the second lap of the first race at this morning's CX event. Passing a guy going up an off-camber hill. He washed out. I went over the bars. Impact moved the left shifter. I got a fat lip.
#goodtimes
#goodtimes
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I'm not sick but I'm not well.
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It's good you're OK, [MENTION=130160]rjones28[/MENTION].
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It's good you're OK, @rjones28.
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Originally Posted by HarveyD
I'm not sick but I'm not well.
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And I did another, longer, race after that. I did not fall down during the second race.
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Originally Posted by HarveyD
I'm not sick but I'm not well.
#819
Face plant on the second lap of the first race at this morning's CX event. Passing a guy going up an off-camber hill. He washed out. I went over the bars. Impact moved the left shifter. I got a fat lip.
#goodtimes
#goodtimes
Has anyone asked you if the bike was OK yet ? If not, let me be the first.
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Originally Posted by HarveyD
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Face plant on the second lap of the first race at this morning's CX event. Passing a guy going up an off-camber hill. He washed out. I went over the bars. Impact moved the left shifter. I got a fat lip.
#goodtimes
#goodtimes
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Appreciate the old bikes more than the new.
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Oh dear. I have caught a disease.
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