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Old 05-05-05 | 12:09 PM
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I used to be addicted to it...then I quit. Then I tried to have it in "moderation". No such luck. It's all or nothing for me. So I chose nothing. My wallet thanked me, the local Starbucks did not.
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Old 05-05-05 | 12:13 PM
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coffee got me through many many years of school, but i stopped drinking it when i went on a multi month bike tour and haven't gone back to it since . . . never regretted it either. no more messed up wake sleep cycle, you feel better with fewer ups and downs, and not drinking coffee saves money.
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Old 05-05-05 | 12:23 PM
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Old 05-05-05 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by koffee brown
Ok, let's just say that even the columbian stuff and the stuff from Starbucks (for instance) is bad too. So either they're sending over the bottom of the barrel or the treatment process used here takes something away from the beans to change the taste.

Even when I get coffee from a supermarket in Europe, I still get better beans. It's not just the barristas and stuff. If it's coffee beans, it's a great tasting stuff, unless it's that instant crap. All instant coffee is terrible.

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Do you have any Italian stores nearby? I buy a lot of my things there, such as prosciutto, mozerella, bread, and of course coffee. Yeah, you pay a little more and this may sound snobby, but you can't find quality outside of the stores that import it from where it's made best.

I buy these bags of sealed KIMBO brand coffee imported from Italy, and they are identical to the ones that I buy when I'm staying in Italy.
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Old 05-05-05 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by geist
As far as Starbacks goes, Espresso served in a paper cup is just wrong.
You have a point there.

It's interesting that the culture in Europe hasn't made a lot of inroads to fast food drive-through.

I was in Toulouse, France and saw a MacDonalds drive through. It's the only one I ever saw in all of Europe. I'm sure there are more.

Funny thing was, all the froggies that hit the drive through did it more for the novelty. They parked in the parking lot and ate while parked. Most Europeans think that driving and eating is disgusting.

Has this changed? I haven't been in Europe for a few years.
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Old 05-05-05 | 12:37 PM
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Old 05-05-05 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by telenick
You have a point there.

It's interesting that the culture in Europe hasn't made a lot of inroads to fast food drive-through.

I was in Toulouse, France and saw a MacDonalds drive through. It's the only one I ever saw in all of Europe. I'm sure there are more.

Funny thing was, all the froggies that hit the drive through did it more for the novelty. They parked in the parking lot and ate while parked. Most Europeans think that driving and eating is disgusting.

Has this changed? I haven't been in Europe for a few years.
I can't remember seeing a single one in Italy. They do have "take away" windows at many of the McDonalds though, where you can order without going inside. It's kind of like a drive through for pedestians. It's always funny ordering McDonalds in Italian and than saying "per take away." McDonalds is too expensive in Europe though. It's funny how I always tell myself I won't eat any American food when I'm there, but I always end up going to McDonalds at least once.
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Old 05-05-05 | 01:07 PM
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While the choice of beans and method of preparation is important, so too is how the black gold is conveyed on your bike. See https://bicyclecoffeesystems.com/
Hey that is one crazy site - nice !!
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Old 05-05-05 | 01:22 PM
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I don't roast my beans. I get my beans when I travel and grind them as I drink, and I'm good to go. I just don't like those roasted beans.
If you really want to experience the best possible coffee buy the best possible coffee unroasted and roast it at home. A $20 popcorn air popper makes a decent entry level roaster and really good beans can be found at Sweet Marias, among other places. Good, thorough instructions on how to roast your own beans are there. A good starter bean would be their Java, Sumatra or Sulawesi. These are low acid beans that work well at a wide range of roast levels. Brazils are another possibility. Brazilian beans are a primary ingredient in Illy espresso blends.

Personally, I tend to drink a lot of East African beans roasted fairly light and brewed in a presspot. But a do have a decent espresso machine (Gaggia Classic) and a Zassenhaus hand cranked burr grinder.
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Old 05-05-05 | 01:23 PM
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who knew there was so much to making coffee?
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Old 05-05-05 | 01:26 PM
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who knew there was so much to making coffee?
As opposed to road cycling?
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Old 05-05-05 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by gcasillo
As opposed to road cycling?
What I mean is I associate coffee with the stuff that's ground up and run through a filter so it comes out as brown bitter crap.
What you guys are saying about coffee and how it should be is making me crave it.
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Old 05-05-05 | 01:50 PM
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Just be sure to buy the Campagnolo brand beans. The bags are easier to open because of the thumb shifters!
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Old 05-05-05 | 01:53 PM
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What I mean is I associate coffee with the stuff that's ground up and run through a filter so it comes out as brown bitter crap.
What you guys are saying about coffee and how it should be is making me crave it.
Coffee ain't a drink... it's an art
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Coffee ain't a drink... it's an art

you'd be hard pressed to call my coffee ART.
although could be a good replacement for the patch that's used in potholes.
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Old 05-05-05 | 03:37 PM
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Just be sure to buy the Campagnolo brand beans. The bags are easier to open because of the thumb shifters!
And you can open them all the way or incrementally to suit as opposed to a tiny bit at a time. Also, they're repairable in case you happen to get a hole in them. Plus there's carbon fiber trim along the sides and top.
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Old 05-05-05 | 03:45 PM
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Coffee drinker here. French press is the only way to go. I never drink past noon time otherwise I'm wired into the night.

I read somewhere that the half-life of caffeine in the body is something like 6hrs.
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Old 05-05-05 | 08:12 PM
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Old 05-05-05 | 09:56 PM
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If you really want to experience the best possible coffee buy the best possible coffee unroasted and roast it at home. A $20 popcorn air popper makes a decent entry level roaster and really good beans can be found at Sweet Marias, among other places. Good, thorough instructions on how to roast your own beans are there. A good starter bean would be their Java, Sumatra or Sulawesi. These are low acid beans that work well at a wide range of roast levels. Brazils are another possibility. Brazilian beans are a primary ingredient in Illy espresso blends.

Personally, I tend to drink a lot of East African beans roasted fairly light and brewed in a presspot. But a do have a decent espresso machine (Gaggia Classic) and a Zassenhaus hand cranked burr grinder.
I've been roasting my own beans for some time now. I took a stainless steel trashcan, pop-rivited some stiring vanes inside and pop-rivited a stainless bowl on the end. I roast in my gas grill using my rottisserie to turn the contraption. I did the popcorn roaster thing for a while and a retail type hot air roaster, but they do such small batches it's a real pain. I can roast up to 2lbs at a time. I only use about 1lb a week for personal use, but I've made a lot of friends since I started roasting.
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Originally Posted by koffee brown
Maybe roasted isn't the process then... maybe it's pressed? I was under the impression that the beans here are treated differently than the way they're treated in other parts of the world. I've seen the difference and I've tasted it. There is definitely more "oil"(???) in the overseas beans, and you don't even need to add cream most of the time. I also think they're a bit more acidic tasting in the US than other countries.

Maybe I should send you a coffee sample so you can taste the difference for yourself. Every person I've ever given coffee to tastes a difference and likes the smoother, more full bodied taste of the beans that come from other countries.

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Eating while driving is worse than disgusting, it's just wrong.
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I am a coffee addict myself, and I must say, I am quite a snob when it comes to coffee. Not to hijack this thread but what brand/blend do you guys brew? My favorite is the Sumatra that Peet's roasts.
PEETS is one of my favorites. But I've discovered another SoCal coffee importerr that makes wonderful coffee. The company is "Coffee Bean and Tea Leaf" which is available in some grocery stores along with PEETS
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In other words, just because people with health probs drank lots of coffee does not mean the coffee caused it.
No it doesn't but it also doesn't mean it didn't have anything to do with it either.
I simply posted my experience with caffeine. Do with it what you will.
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Organic Coffee Co. / Zen Blend - just ground at 5:00am on a cool morning in TX !

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