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Compact, half compact or harden up?

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Old 06-15-16 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by knobd
+1 in theory but I'm not sure if there are any 11 speed 11/12-30T cassettes out there. The short cage RD can handle it. I made the leap without a problem (10 speed).
campy has 12-29 11 speed. miche has a 12-30, and sram has an 11-30
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Old 06-15-16 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by joejack951
Maybe I'm just thrown off by all the BFers who need a 53T big ring on the flats
Never use mine. All flat in Houston, and I stay in the small ring all the time. Did the same even when I could average 20 mph for 2.5 hours.
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Old 06-15-16 | 12:27 PM
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Never use mine. All flat in Houston, and I stay in the small ring all the time. Did the same even when I could average 20 mph for 2.5 hours.
39x11 @ 90rpm is ~25mph on a typical road bike. Plenty of gear for me, too. On my triple bikes, I use the 42T ring a lot (42-12 is about the same as 39-11). The 52T will see use on a few extended downhills or really strong tailwinds (any time I expect to be at 25mph+ for an extended period). I've been experimenting with a compact and 12-25 cassette lately and the 50T ring is plenty big, but as I expected, the lack of overlap between chainrings is really annoying. I'm debating a 48 or 46/34 or 36 crank for that bike since a triple isn't an option (105 5800 groupset). I plan to mainly use it for flatter rides so that will still be enough top end for me and get me a little closer spacing between rings. Having done some steeper stuff with it, I miss my 30-27 low gear!
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Old 06-15-16 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by RPK79
I've been considering swapping out my 50 ring for a 46 on my compact double.
I like having a 46t big ring for recreational riding. 46-17 is the sweet spot for me, and it's nice to have a couple of single steps up and down from there. At 120 RPM you can go 36 MPH with a 46-12. Do you really need to pedal faster than that?
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Old 06-15-16 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by kingston
I like having a 46t big ring for recreational riding. 46-17 is the sweet spot for me, and it's nice to have a couple of single steps up and down from there. At 120 RPM you can go 36 MPH with a 46-12. Do you really need to pedal faster than that?
I generally stop pedaling on downhills when I hit 30-33 MPH anyway and just try to get as small as possible.
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Old 06-15-16 | 12:46 PM
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I run a 50/34 with a 11/25. Would I see much difference changing out for a 11/28? 11/32 is only for 11 sp correct?
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Old 06-15-16 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Obct
I've recently got into road cycling and I'm not particularly strong yet but I absolutely love climbing.
However, I'm very short and thin (5'7" and 130 pounds) and on climbs that average 9%, my cadence is about 60 (at threshold) whilst my usual cadence is about 100-105. After 3km, my legs are completely cooked.
I'm running a 54-39 (or 53?) and 11-28 at the back.

I'm tossing up if I should be getting a compact chainring or semi compact, or if I just need to train harder and stop being a sook.

I'm aiming to do some climbs that have 1km+ of 20% but at least 50% of my training is on flat.

Any suggestions on what I should change to?
Never, ever have a second thought about getting low enough gears so you can enjoy the cycling you do. Exactly what that is for you, really only you can tell - and you've already gotten good options/advice above. I give no credence to anyone who ever has an opinion that any given person doesn't or shouldn't need low gears. That's nonsense. You can work as hard, go as fast, get as fit with a compact crank, triple, large sprockets, etc.

The only downside to a bike with a very wide range of gears, with very low gears - in other words compact vs. a regular crank and a "wide" cassette vs a "narrow" cassette - is the large jump between the gears. That's significant and should be considered. If you don't need them, don't get them, but if you do, don't hesitate.
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Old 06-16-16 | 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by cave12man
I run a 50/34 with a 11/25. Would I see much difference changing out for a 11/28? 11/32 is only for 11 sp correct?
Do you ever find yourself missing that one extra gear on bigger hills? That's what you get with a 28. I went from 12-25 to 11-28 on a compact and for me the extra range is quite useful.
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