Buying first road bike-Need some opinions from the Guru's and Trolls
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This is exactly my ride habit and the last paragraph is virtually right here my mind is at. I love the idea of hopping on an F8. I normally ride at dusk and LATE night so nobody ever sees me lol, but that's irrelevant, I just want a dope ride to grow with. My worry is that I WOULD be simply burning money. Perhaps the Gan RS is something I should consider.
I see the value in getting one over the other when a discount is in play though, absolutely. I'm between the F8 at 6500 and the RS around 5. What you do man?
I see the value in getting one over the other when a discount is in play though, absolutely. I'm between the F8 at 6500 and the RS around 5. What you do man?
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After you look at Parlee, take a look at a Pinarello Prince. It's in the middle between the Gan and F8. You'll still have room to upgrade wheels if needed (doubt you'll need to). The Prince has a long history and reputation for being a damn fine bike. I've never rode one though, so can't speak from personal experience.
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https://22bicycles.com/collections/g...ant=2105597057
Might as well get something that lasts a few years.
Might as well get something that lasts a few years.
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https://22bicycles.com/collections/g...ant=2105597057
Might as well get something that lasts a few years.
Might as well get something that lasts a few years.
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If you're in the Bay Area, you might want to check out Rivendell Bicycle Works. They don't do carbon but they make gorgeous steel frame bikes and their Roadeo model might suit you. And if you do get one and then get divorced, let me know—I'm a lawyer and maybe we can barter bike for legal fees.
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Well played.
Having multiple gears doesn't mean it gets easier. You can make any ride as hard as you want, you can just spin at an optimal cadence regardless of speed with a multi-speed bike rather than grinding along on a fixie and wrecking your knees. Brakes are nice to have, too.
Lol. How do you (as an admitted relative n00b in the road bike world) define a "serious rider"?
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I run a really low cog and it always keeps me working. I guess my preference is to keep it as is because I don't want it to get "easier" for when I'm not in the hills. It's all relative but I want a bike made for the hills is where I'm finding my thoughts recently.
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You can hate Sagan and still try and ride as hard as him, since you go BALLS DEEP.
Custom bikes are cool and all, but there will be a wait time. Vanilla is a few years, unless you get their Speedvagen model. I've never felt like I got ripped from a LBS. If you don't like the brands at "x" shop, go to "y" shop instead. Shops stock what they can sell, which comes down to what they can get from the distributor, and how they can stand out from the competition. Some brands, like Trek, impose how much percentage of retail stock one of their dealers have to carry, or something like that, and that's why you see a lot of shops that sell Trek only selling Trek and maybe a boutique brand or two.
Custom bikes are cool and all, but there will be a wait time. Vanilla is a few years, unless you get their Speedvagen model. I've never felt like I got ripped from a LBS. If you don't like the brands at "x" shop, go to "y" shop instead. Shops stock what they can sell, which comes down to what they can get from the distributor, and how they can stand out from the competition. Some brands, like Trek, impose how much percentage of retail stock one of their dealers have to carry, or something like that, and that's why you see a lot of shops that sell Trek only selling Trek and maybe a boutique brand or two.
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No, because other than personal aesthetic considerations, I think that most brands are pretty competitive at a given price point. I would primarily recommend that a n00b feel out LBSs and buy from the one that they feel is going to listen to and take care of them. Still undecided on whether or not telling them that you intend to go balls deep is the best way to initiate the relationship, though...
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No, because other than personal aesthetic considerations, I think that most brands are pretty competitive at a given price point. I would primarily recommend that a n00b feel out LBSs and buy from the one that they feel is going to listen to and take care of them. Still undecided on whether or not telling them that you intend to go balls deep is the best way to initiate the relationship, though...
I always go balls deep. Non negotiable.
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Well played.
Having multiple gears doesn't mean it gets easier. You can make any ride as hard as you want, you can just spin at an optimal cadence regardless of speed with a multi-speed bike rather than grinding along on a fixie and wrecking your knees. Brakes are nice to have, too.
Lol. How do you (as an admitted relative n00b in the road bike world) define a "serious rider"?
Ok, it's fine to tell us you hate your wife and have a girlfriend, but now you've crossed a line. Reported.
Having multiple gears doesn't mean it gets easier. You can make any ride as hard as you want, you can just spin at an optimal cadence regardless of speed with a multi-speed bike rather than grinding along on a fixie and wrecking your knees. Brakes are nice to have, too.
Lol. How do you (as an admitted relative n00b in the road bike world) define a "serious rider"?
Ok, it's fine to tell us you hate your wife and have a girlfriend, but now you've crossed a line. Reported.
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If you're in the Bay Area, you might want to check out Rivendell Bicycle Works. They don't do carbon but they make gorgeous steel frame bikes and their Roadeo model might suit you. And if you do get one and then get divorced, let me know—I'm a lawyer and maybe we can barter bike for legal fees.
Lol I'll never get divorced sadly But love the proposition!
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You can hate Sagan and still try and ride as hard as him, since you go BALLS DEEP.
Custom bikes are cool and all, but there will be a wait time. Vanilla is a few years, unless you get their Speedvagen model. I've never felt like I got ripped from a LBS. If you don't like the brands at "x" shop, go to "y" shop instead. Shops stock what they can sell, which comes down to what they can get from the distributor, and how they can stand out from the competition. Some brands, like Trek, impose how much percentage of retail stock one of their dealers have to carry, or something like that, and that's why you see a lot of shops that sell Trek only selling Trek and maybe a boutique brand or two.
Custom bikes are cool and all, but there will be a wait time. Vanilla is a few years, unless you get their Speedvagen model. I've never felt like I got ripped from a LBS. If you don't like the brands at "x" shop, go to "y" shop instead. Shops stock what they can sell, which comes down to what they can get from the distributor, and how they can stand out from the competition. Some brands, like Trek, impose how much percentage of retail stock one of their dealers have to carry, or something like that, and that's why you see a lot of shops that sell Trek only selling Trek and maybe a boutique brand or two.
I have talked to at least 9 bike shops and at about half the shops, the mechanics themselves say they carry bikes that sell. And by that they means bikes without wonderful components. Look shiny and relevant but the buyers don't know that they could be getting better for X y or z. So that's why I asked that question originally.
The other half just "sell sell sell" so they are definitely drinking the kool aid but that's not to say they have bad bikes or anything. It's just hard to get an honest non sales driven opinion out of them at times, if that makes sense :T
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There's really no recommendation process for balls deep impulse buying.
Just walk into a local store, tell them you have $6500 to spend on a gnarly bike that grinds tasty hills, bend over and they will handle the rest.
Just walk into a local store, tell them you have $6500 to spend on a gnarly bike that grinds tasty hills, bend over and they will handle the rest.
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F8 with 3k enve wheel -> end thread
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