Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Road Cycling
Reload this Page >

Average elevation gain

Search
Notices
Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

Average elevation gain

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-28-16 | 10:27 AM
  #1  
Thread Starter
Banned
 
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 1,245
Likes: 1
From: North Jersey

Bikes: 1975 Motobecane Le Champion lilac, 2015 Specialized Secteur Elite

Average elevation gain

I am curious how hilly the average ride is for other recreational cyclists.
My usual road routes average around 20 miles with an elevation gain of around 800 ft.
I can ofc choose alternate routes that would be less hilly or more hilly but that seems to be where I have settled in.
I get my data from Strava and am also wondering how accurate it is concerning elevation?
bakes1 is offline  
Reply
Old 07-28-16 | 10:33 AM
  #2  
deapee's Avatar
Ride On!
 
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 970
Likes: 3

Bikes: Allez DSW SL Sprint | Fuji Cross

About the same for me. 600-1000 ever 20 miles, unless I'm looking for hills.

Just saw your question about strava accuracy -- it's pretty good. I don't notice much difference (ON THE ROAD) when using my device with an altimeter and my device that doesn't have one.
Where I do notice a difference is bike paths that follow road ways *can be* WAY off on Strava.
deapee is offline  
Reply
Old 07-28-16 | 10:34 AM
  #3  
mcours2006's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 6,228
Likes: 440
From: Toronto, CANADA

Bikes: ...a few.

My 60-km route that I've been enjoying this summer is around 350 m of elevation. This is one of the hillier routes around here. There's one descent where I might reach 65 km/h, and to be frank, it's a bit scary.
mcours2006 is offline  
Reply
Old 07-28-16 | 10:36 AM
  #4  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 960
Likes: 94
From: Amateur Coachsurfer
I am averaging about 80ft of climbing per mile (15m per km) this year. I mainly do climbs, so my average might be higher than most. Most rides tend to be about 100ft of climbing per mile.

Strava is only as reliable as the data it is given and elevation is inconsistent. Many lower-end Android phones report far higher than average elevation. The same for dedicated GPS devices such as watches. Even Garmin devices report bad data.

iPhones tend to be correct as well as most modern and higher-end Android phones.

Last edited by Tycho Brahe; 07-28-16 at 11:11 AM.
Tycho Brahe is offline  
Reply
Old 07-28-16 | 10:41 AM
  #5  
rpenmanparker's Avatar
Senior Member
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 28,682
Likes: 63
From: Houston, TX

Bikes: 1990 Romic Reynolds 531 custom build, Merlin Works CR Ti custom build, super light Workswell 066 custom build

No climbing for me ever...except the odd overpass.
rpenmanparker is offline  
Reply
Old 07-28-16 | 10:52 AM
  #6  
Member
 
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 38
Likes: 1
about 1k per 15 miles for me.
diverged is offline  
Reply
Old 07-28-16 | 10:58 AM
  #7  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 75
Likes: 2

Bikes: 2016 Trek Domane 5.2

Originally Posted by bakes1
I am curious how hilly the average ride is for other recreational cyclists.
My usual road routes average around 20 miles with an elevation gain of around 800 ft.
I can ofc choose alternate routes that would be less hilly or more hilly but that seems to be where I have settled in.
I get my data from Strava and am also wondering how accurate it is concerning elevation?
That's similar to my usual routes. I live right on the eastern escarpment of the Texas Hill Country, so if I leave my house and head west, I gain more. But even heading east I get a fair amount of gain just heading back home. South is nice when I want a variety of hills and flats. I chose the part of Austin where I live partly so I could have great rides right from my doorstep. I rarely drive somewhere to ride unless it's a charity ride.

Last edited by Gasser5.2; 07-28-16 at 11:02 AM.
Gasser5.2 is offline  
Reply
Old 07-28-16 | 11:14 AM
  #8  
indyfabz's Avatar
Senior Member
15 Anniversary
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Active Streak: 30 Days
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 45,188
Likes: 23,362
I consider 60'/mile moderately hilly. 100'/mile is quite hilly.
indyfabz is offline  
Reply
Old 07-28-16 | 11:42 AM
  #9  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 10,879
Likes: 6
From: Northern California
My recreational cycling club has regular rides with 100 feet of climbing per mile of a loop ride (eg 6000 feet of climbing on a 60 mile ride). We consider this to be a hilly ride. We also have easier rides.
johnny99 is offline  
Reply
Old 07-28-16 | 12:18 PM
  #10  
Thread Starter
Banned
 
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 1,245
Likes: 1
From: North Jersey

Bikes: 1975 Motobecane Le Champion lilac, 2015 Specialized Secteur Elite

100' per mile on anything over 10 miles would probably kill me or I would need to greatly reduce my overall average speed.
bakes1 is offline  
Reply
Old 07-28-16 | 12:44 PM
  #11  
Seattle Forrest's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 23,208
Likes: 10,653
From: Seattle, WA
I did Loup Loup Pass from the valley floor this weekend. It was about 3,500 of vert and a 32 mile loop. Of course half of that was the way back down. I enjoyed the ride up a lot more than the ride down, mostly because the road was awful for the descent.

On average, though, I got about 60 feet of gain per mile the last time I checked. Across all rides, the fun ones on weekends and the after work loop.
Seattle Forrest is offline  
Reply
Old 07-28-16 | 12:50 PM
  #12  
caloso's Avatar
Senior Member
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 40,863
Likes: 3,115
From: Sacramento, California, USA

Bikes: Specialized Tarmac, Canyon Exceed, Specialized Transition, Ellsworth Roots, Ridley Excalibur

It all depends on where you live. I'm in the middle of a giant river valley. I can ride 100 miles with 100 feet of elevation gain, all of that levee roads and overpasses.
caloso is offline  
Reply
Old 07-28-16 | 01:10 PM
  #13  
redfooj's Avatar
pluralis majestatis
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 4,206
Likes: 5
From: you rope

Bikes: a DuhRosa

Average solo ride 65-75km & 600-800m excluding neighborhood rollout distance

Average group ride 75-110 & 600-1200m depending on who leads it

Convert that to your bizarre units
redfooj is offline  
Reply
Old 07-28-16 | 01:14 PM
  #14  
NYMXer's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 1,493
Likes: 11
From: Middletown NY

Bikes: Cannondale SuperSix EVO w Hi-Mod frame, Raleigh Tamland 1 and Giant Anthem X

Originally Posted by indyfabz
I consider 60'/mile moderately hilly. 100'/mile is quite hilly.
This is typical for my area of the Catskills and depending on my mood (okay, ambition) my rides are similar to what you posted.
NYMXer is offline  
Reply
Old 07-28-16 | 01:15 PM
  #15  
icyclist's Avatar
Spin Meister
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 2,658
Likes: 74
From: California, USA

Bikes: Trek Émonda, 1961 Follis (French) road bike (I'm the original owner), a fixie, a mountain bike, etc.

I don't have a typical ride because there's so much mixed terrain in Los Angeles, where I live, and in California in general. Hill climbs are just a few miles north and south of my mid-town home.

I like to cram as much uphill as I can into as short a distance as possible. I want to put in 2,000 to 3,000 feet in 15 miles or so.

Below is a typical ride with hills from two days ago, in the Santa Monica Mountains. Of course, the start and finish were flat, so most of the climbing – 2,200 feet – took place in a little under 8 miles. That's about 280 feet or so a mile. The uphill part of those miles averaged about 10%, with some sections going to 15%.





I think these types of rides are part of the reason I wake up each morning with a heartbeat in the low 40s.
__________________
This post is a natural product. Slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and are in no way to be considered flaws or defects.

Last edited by icyclist; 07-28-16 at 01:19 PM.
icyclist is offline  
Reply
Old 07-28-16 | 01:17 PM
  #16  
jnbrown's Avatar
Senior Member
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,327
Likes: 115
From: Encinitas, CA
I am not sure why it matters how much climbing other people have done, you will get answers from 0 to 30,000 ft.
Do what you want to do.
jnbrown is offline  
Reply
Old 07-28-16 | 01:26 PM
  #17  
seau grateau's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 9,948
Likes: 400
From: PHL

Bikes: Litespeed Catalyst, IRO Rob Roy, All City Big Block

1200-1500 feet over 20-25 miles tends to be my average. Trying to start working in more hills and bump that up once in a while.
seau grateau is offline  
Reply
Old 07-28-16 | 01:44 PM
  #18  
icyclist's Avatar
Spin Meister
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 2,658
Likes: 74
From: California, USA

Bikes: Trek Émonda, 1961 Follis (French) road bike (I'm the original owner), a fixie, a mountain bike, etc.

"I get my data from Strava and am also wondering how accurate it is concerning elevation?"

As long as you're getting consistent readings from the same ride, don't worry about it.
__________________
This post is a natural product. Slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and are in no way to be considered flaws or defects.
icyclist is offline  
Reply
Old 07-28-16 | 01:58 PM
  #19  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 960
Likes: 94
From: Amateur Coachsurfer
If you want to test out your Strava elevation readings, select "Create Route" from the tools menu and Strava will create a route with elevation based on its data. Obviously, it should match. This method works for anybody's ride, so you can also test if someone else's device is faulty. Use this technique on any of the leaders of the Strava climbing challenge, and you will find all of them have bad elevation data.
Tycho Brahe is offline  
Reply
Old 07-28-16 | 02:01 PM
  #20  
79pmooney's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Anniversary
Community Builder
 
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 14,159
Likes: 5,284
From: Portland, OR

Bikes: (2) ti TiCycles, 2007 w/ triple and 2011 fixed, 1979 Peter Mooney, ~1983 Trek 420 now fixed and ~1973 Raleigh Carlton Competition gravel grinder

To take your question literally: average elevation gain. Since most of my rides begin and end at my garage or to somewhere, then later back, almost exactly zero.

Most of my rides (by number) are in town and back. I record that as 550'. Recent months, I have been doing little in hills so I record my rides through the Tualitin valley as flat though little of it is actually. If I ride up to Skyline over Portland, getting to 1000' is easy. Bald Peak southwest of Portland is about 1600' so that's usually a 2000' day.

I do not have a computer with elevation function on any of my bikes. I count the elevation gained on specific hills, not gradual inclines or small stuff.

Ben
79pmooney is offline  
Reply
Old 07-28-16 | 02:08 PM
  #21  
DrIsotope's Avatar
Non omnino gravis
 
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 8,552
Likes: 1,739
From: SoCal, USA!

Bikes: Nekobasu, Pandicorn, Lakitu

This shouldn't be as hard as people are making it out to be. Look at your total distance and elevation. Divide by number of rides. If you have Veloviewer, it's right on the summary page.

Total Rides: 364
Avg. distance: 34.5 miles
Avg. elevation: 1,418ft

If I climbed the "average" amount some have claimed here, combined with the miles I log, I would do over 1 million vertical feet a year. People seem to ignore the descent that invariably follows the climb when giving their "averages." My climb to the Forest Falls campground yesterday logged 4,600ft in 20.6 miles-- so I guess my BF-standard climbing average is 223ft/mi.
__________________
DrIsotope is offline  
Reply
Old 07-28-16 | 03:03 PM
  #22  
Member
 
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 38
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by DrIsotope
This shouldn't be as hard as people are making it out to be. Look at your total distance and elevation. Divide by number of rides. If you have Veloviewer, it's right on the summary page.

Total Rides: 364
Avg. distance: 34.5 miles
Avg. elevation: 1,418ft

If I climbed the "average" amount some have claimed here, combined with the miles I log, I would do over 1 million vertical feet a year. People seem to ignore the descent that invariably follows the climb when giving their "averages." My climb to the Forest Falls campground yesterday logged 4,600ft in 20.6 miles-- so I guess my BF-standard climbing average is 223ft/mi.
You're missing the point. People don't finish at an altitude that's 3k ft higher than where they started. Elevation gain is one of the main metrics displayed by strava, veloviewer, etc.
diverged is offline  
Reply
Old 07-28-16 | 03:11 PM
  #23  
DrIsotope's Avatar
Non omnino gravis
 
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 8,552
Likes: 1,739
From: SoCal, USA!

Bikes: Nekobasu, Pandicorn, Lakitu

Yes, but the OP asked what is the "typical" elevation gain by folks on here, which is total ascent divided by number of rides. I've averaged 42ft/mi this year, which is based on total miles ridden, both ascending and descending. I can't sit and say, "Oh my real average is like double that, because I'm not going to count the miles going downhill." That's the equivalent of having the power meter ignore zeros.
__________________
DrIsotope is offline  
Reply
Old 07-28-16 | 03:12 PM
  #24  
bmthom.gis's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 2,977
Likes: 5
From: Columbia, SC

Bikes: 2014 Cannondale Synapse Carbon 4 Rival; 2014 Cannondale Trail 7 29; 1972 Schwinn Suburban, 1996 Proflex 756, 1987(?) Peugeot, Dahon Speed P8; 1979 Raleigh Competition GS; 1995 Stumpjumper M2 FS, 1978 Raleigh Sports, Schwinn Prologue

The ride I'm about to go out and do is around 850' over 27 miles. Not excessively hilly. Not super flat, either. But I like hills. I try to get out to the mountains when I can. A very hilly ride for me would be 3000' over a metric century. I've done more, but I would classify that as very, very hilly. Usually pretty darn wiped, as well. Actually a very hilly ride wipes me out, too. But what can I say, I like the pain
bmthom.gis is offline  
Reply
Old 07-28-16 | 03:40 PM
  #25  
Senior Member
Titanium Club Membership
10 Anniversary
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 850
Likes: 5
From: Cowan Heights, CA

Bikes: Wizard, Eisentraut, Paramount, Litton, Turner, Surley, Trek, Kona, Landshark, Hujsak, Masi, Tesch, Holland, Retrotec, Spectrum

It's a matter of choice for me. Do I want to do a hilly ride or a flatish ride. Road bike or mountain bike.


I, most of the time, live on a hill in So Cal so any ride involves climbing to finish the ride, and most often to start the ride as well. I can do a road ride that averages 19.3'/mile on a 41.5 mile ride and most of the climbing is in the first mile and last two miles. I can also do one that averages 77.7'/mile over 30.8 miles and I'm rolling all the time. My mountain bike rides are all over 100'/mile with most in the 130-150'/mile range. My commute is 21.3'/mile.


When I go to our house in No Cal, the average goes up on road rides. Largely because we seek out the climbing. We average closer to 100'/mile. The commute is 36.4'/mile.


I live in North Carolina for a few years. When at the coast, a road ride was ~5'/mile. In the mountains it was ~100'/mile. The commute in Raleigh was 50.5'/mile. Mountain bike showed similar variability.


So it's all numbers and what you seek. Best to just go ride.....

Last edited by PeregrineA1; 07-28-16 at 03:41 PM. Reason: content
PeregrineA1 is offline  
Reply


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.