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Old 10-17-16, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by datlas
And whose fault is that??
Dan's?
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Originally Posted by PepeM
Dan's?
Correct. I cinzano'd your rear wheel at mile 92 last time you tried a century. Never forget.
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Old 10-17-16, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by PepeM
Dan's?
Apparently so. See above.
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Originally Posted by LAJ
Well said, @Heathpack.

Kudos indeed, @WalksOn2Wheels
This.

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I need a new pair of lightweight long finger gloves. The ones I currently have are Specialized Radiators which apparently were discontinued. I really love these gloves for temps in the 40s when half finger gloves are not enough but winter gloves are too much.

Any suggestions? Current ones are starting to fall apart, they are several years old.
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What about running on gravel?
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Originally Posted by Heathpack
So you're a whole milk guy, I assume?

I pretty much always measure milk I consume which is part of the calorie tracking thing. And sometimes you want a high glycemic index, right? My recovery drinks are a combo of skim milk, whey protein isolate, some sugar source & some flavor source. I never really considered the GI of skim vs whole milk, but I'd argue skim is a better choice in this context & the protein is so satiating anyway, no need for fat on that account.

Also, if you mostly use skim milk in recipes as opposed to drinking it- like say my morning oats- don't the other ingredients temper the GI of the milk?

One thing I've discovered is every little calorie counts for some of us who are prone to chubbiness. So an extra 25 cal of milk fat per day used non-strategically (ie when you don't need to temper GI or provide satiety) can make a difference.

Personally, I think you could argue it either way on skim vs whole milk. The one thing I can't really make work for me is drinking glasses of milk, though. Too many calories for the satisifaction you get from it.

But coffee I generally like black or with huge amts of milk & sugar (ie a latte) used as a recovery drink.
in general, I try to use whole milk where possible (for me lactaid). But you are not the typical person. Nor are you the type of person that nutritional studies are done on.

If you count calories as well as grams of fat/protein/carbs, you can eat whatever you want. You just need to adjust portion size.


I am a fat ****. I ate a churro and baked ziti today. And I'm off to a conference in NOLA tomorrow, so all I'll do is eat, drink, and sit in class.
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Originally Posted by datlas
I need a new pair of lightweight long finger gloves. The ones I currently have are Specialized Radiators which apparently were discontinued. I really love these gloves for temps in the 40s when half finger gloves are not enough but winter gloves are too much.

Any suggestions? Current ones are starting to fall apart, they are several years old.

I'm good with Geier unlined deerskin. My break point for wearing these vice my half fingers is low-mid 50's.
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Originally Posted by RUOkie
in general, I try to use whole milk where possible (for me lactaid).
You sound fat.
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Old 10-17-16, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ltxi
I'm good with Geier unlined deerskin. My break point for wearing these vice my half fingers is low-mid 50's.
Thanks but seems kinda fancy/pricey. Budget is $20ish.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
You sound fat.
Thanks for saying what I was thinking.
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Originally Posted by datlas
Thanks but seems kinda fancy/pricey. Budget is $20ish.
Don't know about fancy, but I agree with at $50+ they're not cheap. The pair I'm currently using for riding, though, is mebbe 15 years old. Not originally purchased for bike riding but much worn and still have a whole lot of life left.

Fwiw, I'm not a gear snob. I save that for coffee. Gear, I just go with whatever I've found to work best. My favorite around the house work gloves are $10 pigskin Wells Lamont.

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Originally Posted by datlas
Thanks but seems kinda fancy/pricey. Budget is $20ish.
Plus you gotta figure out what your glove size is **********

I could go for a pair of those, though. Leather is where it's at!
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Plus you gotta figure out what your glove size is **********

I could go for a pair of those, though. Leather is where it's at!
Geier does half sizes and will do a first time on their shipping dime replacement if you get it and/or the color you want wrong. Know this is still current policy 'cause wife decided to surprise with a new/another pair for my birthday this year and did get it wrong. Replacement in hand within a week of returning. Didn't mean to turn this into a marketing pitch but these guys are old school quality folk worthy of the praise.
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I am a fat ****. I ate a churro and baked ziti today. And I'm off to a conference in NOLA tomorrow, so all I'll do is eat, drink, and sit in class.
Maybe you can jog around a levee or something after conference. It might be stupid but it beats getting fat(ter).
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Originally Posted by datlas
I need a new pair of lightweight long finger gloves. The ones I currently have are Specialized Radiators which apparently were discontinued. I really love these gloves for temps in the 40s when half finger gloves are not enough but winter gloves are too much.

Any suggestions? Current ones are starting to fall apart, they are several years old.
I got some Bontrager Solstice ones on sale recently for $20 and like them for the not that cold weather we had the past couple of weekends.
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Originally Posted by RUOkie
I am a fat ****. I ate a churro and baked ziti today. And I'm off to a conference in NOLA tomorrow, so all I'll do is eat, drink, and sit in class.
You will enjoy New Orleans. One of my emails from work today was touting the new, healthier options in Tulane's hospital cafeteria. But you can walk right outside to the food trucks and get some great BBQ or Thai food. There are options everywhere. Ooh, and it's fall- we've actually been staying in the 80s, I've almost had to break out a sweater .
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Tastes great. Doesn't agree with my stomach at all. Not one bit.
I hadn't heard of many people having a problem with it (not that I've asked).

Do you have food allergies?
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
I hadn't heard of many people having a problem with it (not that I've asked).

Do you have food allergies?
Not that I'm aware of and I've never had a problem with whole/sliced/chopped almonds, but almond milk is just a "go directly to the bathroom - do not pass 'Go'" kind of deal.
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I keep asking myself, "how is it that some of these Addicts haven't ridden 100 miles in a day?" It seems like such a basic think to check off your cycling list fairly early on.

Short attention spans perhaps?
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Originally Posted by BillyD
Maybe you can jog around a levee or something after conference. It might be stupid but it beats getting fat(ter).
There will be at least two runs
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Originally Posted by RUOkie
There will be at least two runs
That's the spirit.
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Originally Posted by RUOkie
incorrect and incorrect

people use more fat free milk than whole milk, so the calorie level is likely the same. In addition, skim milk has a much higher glycemic index than the whole milk version. The high fat link to CAD was spurious
I don't dispute your statements. I do wonder, however, if we are not to believe now what we were taught before, why should we believe now what we are taught now? When will food and health scientists get this stuff right? And for how long will it stay right?
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Originally Posted by Heathpack
I keep asking myself, "how is it that some of these Addicts haven't ridden 100 miles in a day?" It seems like such a basic think to check off your cycling list fairly early on.

Short attention spans perhaps?
I haven't done one since I was a young pup. Just not my idea of enjoyment.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
I don't dispute your statements. I do wonder, however, if we are not to believe now what we were taught before, why should we believe now what we are taught now? When will food and health scientists get this stuff right? And for how long will it stay right?
When we stop hiding data
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