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Old 04-11-17 | 11:07 AM
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How to bring saddle forward

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I have a BH road bike and I have installed aerobars. My issue is that now I am too far to find a comfortable position on the aerobars and my position is not right either, even bringing my seat forward to the maximum.
I cannot use a forward seatpost as the shape of the BH seatpost is "unique", they have aero-seatposts but only for their aero bikes... and the other brands seatposts do not fit.


Do you have any idea I can use to improve my position in the bike? I have heard about seatposts with longer rails... and I don't know if there is anything I could install just to bring my seat forward.


thank you all in advance and have a nice ride today!!!


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Old 04-11-17 | 11:15 AM
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I know the BH post isn't standard, but can you flip it so it's oriented backwards to how it is now? Or will it only fit in a single direction?
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Old 04-11-17 | 11:16 AM
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Flip it and slam it.
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Old 04-11-17 | 11:24 AM
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Buy a TT bike. Setting your position more forward for the aerobars will help with getting an aero position, but compromise both comfort and handling.

If you want a bike with aerobars and a aero position, sell your road bike, and buy a bike with geometry designed for that purpose.
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Old 04-11-17 | 11:25 AM
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Thank you Dan and Pepe,
Unfortunately it only fits in one position...
I have read about the adamo seats... as normally you have to put them 2-3 inches back to have the same position... if I don't bring them back I guess I will be already 2-3 inches forward.
any other ideas?
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Old 04-11-17 | 11:28 AM
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Shorter stem.

You should not be adjusting saddle position to address bar reach. Saddle position should be set based on your fit relative to the bottom bracket.
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Old 04-11-17 | 11:36 AM
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Shorter stem.

You should not be adjusting saddle position to address bar reach. Saddle position should be set based on your fit relative to the bottom bracket.
I generally agree. For a proper road bike fit, that is absolutely true.


However, it sounds like what he's trying to accomplish is optimizing an aero position. If you don't have to worry about UCI rules, moving up the seat, effectively steepening the seat tube angle, opening up hip angle is going to mimic a triathlon type aero setup, and make the bike more like a TT bike or triathlon bike.

Which is why I suggested if you want that setup buy a TT bike.
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Old 04-11-17 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by pruiz
Thank you Dan and Pepe,
Unfortunately it only fits in one position...
I have read about the adamo seats... as normally you have to put them 2-3 inches back to have the same position... if I don't bring them back I guess I will be already 2-3 inches forward.
any other ideas?
If your position on the bike is already well adjusted, other than the aero bars, you should be able to adjust the aero bars so the pads are further back and the reach is not as far.

If you're trying to get an aero position on what is already a properly adjusted bike, and you're finding the aerobars are too far of a reach, then I stand by my original suggestion of getting a TT bike.

What do you wan the aerobars for in the first place?
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Originally Posted by pruiz
Thank you Dan and Pepe,
You don't see that every day around these parts.

For other options... have you talked to the shop where you bought it? Maybe BH has some special inventory parts for that type of seatpost that would get you a bit more forward that they don't normally list online. If the shop has contact with a BH rep they can do some digging for you.
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Old 04-11-17 | 12:01 PM
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Custom post? A good framebuilder/machinist could mill stock aluminum to fit your seat tube and use Thompson clamp parts top achieve whatever setback you need. Expensive, yes. Compared to a new bike? No.

Dave Levy/TiCycles built me two seaposts with ti posts and aluminum/Thompson clamp assemblies to get 65 mm setback. (Thompson sells just the clamp parts so framebuilders can do exactly that. Cool because the Thompson is an A-1 first class 2-bolt clamp.)

If this bike is one you love and you went this approach, you would then be able to quickly swap seat and post from TT to road. With the right cable connects, you could do the same with the handlebar/stem/shifters/etc. Lift one out, slip in the other, tighten things up and go riding! I do this with my good fix gear although it is considerably simpler. I have two complete and set up handlebars, stems, levers and calipers. Takes 5 minutes to swap them over. I go from a traditional road setup, great for riding the flat, small hills and in wind to a very wide set of pista handlebars with huge V-brake levers (and calipers to match the levers) to have a setup that is sweet for climbing for hours. (And descending long, rough, steep hills. Those wide bars! On a fix gear, aero is NOT your friend going down hill!) The bike is a completely different animal with the different setups.

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Originally Posted by Dan333SP
You don't see that every day around these parts.
Looks like one or both of you should grab a sig.

To the OP: is the saddle clamp reversible? That'll sometimes get you another 20cm. An extra 20cm is nothing to sneeze at.
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Originally Posted by topflightpro
Shorter stem.

You should not be adjusting saddle position to address bar reach. Saddle position should be set based on your fit relative to the bottom bracket.
I always say that too, but it isn't true in this case. When using aero bars, it is customary to be more forward relative to the bottom bracket whether you need to or not for reach.
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Old 04-11-17 | 09:53 PM
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I've just seen the solution on the gcn show.

Skip to 18m 43sec:

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Originally Posted by pruiz
Good morning all,
I have a BH road bike and I have installed aerobars. My issue is that now I am too far to find a comfortable position on the aerobars and my position is not right either, even bringing my seat forward to the maximum.
I cannot use a forward seatpost as the shape of the BH seatpost is "unique", they have aero-seatposts but only for their aero bikes... and the other brands seatposts do not fit.


Do you have any idea I can use to improve my position in the bike? I have heard about seatposts with longer rails... and I don't know if there is anything I could install just to bring my seat forward.


thank you all in advance and have a nice ride today!!!


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Fwiw I've heard mention that the brooks swallow saddle offers long rails.
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