Anyone with the ratchet upgrades on DT Swiss hubs?
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Anyone with the ratchet upgrades on DT Swiss hubs?
i got the base 18T ratchet on my DT240s hubs.
sometimes i notice the lax (20*) engagement arc and it annoys me.
they offer upgrades to 36T and to 54T. pros and cons to each? have you found that 36T is sufficient or would you recommend going to 54T? i know 54 gives it a hyperbumblebee sound. wonder if the smaller teeth will also make it less durable or something, making 36T the better compromise
sometimes i notice the lax (20*) engagement arc and it annoys me.
they offer upgrades to 36T and to 54T. pros and cons to each? have you found that 36T is sufficient or would you recommend going to 54T? i know 54 gives it a hyperbumblebee sound. wonder if the smaller teeth will also make it less durable or something, making 36T the better compromise
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i got the base 18T ratchet on my DT240s hubs.
sometimes i notice the lax (20*) engagement arc and it annoys me.
they offer upgrades to 36T and to 54T. pros and cons to each? have you found that 36T is sufficient or would you recommend going to 54T? i know 54 gives it a hyperbumblebee sound. wonder if the smaller teeth will also make it less durable or something, making 36T the better compromise
sometimes i notice the lax (20*) engagement arc and it annoys me.
they offer upgrades to 36T and to 54T. pros and cons to each? have you found that 36T is sufficient or would you recommend going to 54T? i know 54 gives it a hyperbumblebee sound. wonder if the smaller teeth will also make it less durable or something, making 36T the better compromise
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09-01-17, 11:00 AM
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Regardless of what you decide, use the correct grease on the install. The last time I pulled my 240s apart, I used grease that was too heavy, and the teeth on the (18) ratchet ring got chipped after my first ride.
Had to buy and reinstall new ratchets. I went to the same 18s. I see no performance issues with the old ratchets.
Had to buy and reinstall new ratchets. I went to the same 18s. I see no performance issues with the old ratchets.
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Regardless of what you decide, use the correct grease on the install. The last time I pulled my 240s apart, I used grease that was too heavy, and the teeth on the (18) ratchet ring got chipped after my first ride.
Had to buy and reinstall new ratchets. I went to the same 18s. I see no performance issues with the old ratchets.
Had to buy and reinstall new ratchets. I went to the same 18s. I see no performance issues with the old ratchets.
09-01-17, 01:30 PM
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i got the base 18T ratchet on my DT240s hubs.
sometimes i notice the lax (20*) engagement arc and it annoys me.
they offer upgrades to 36T and to 54T. pros and cons to each? have you found that 36T is sufficient or would you recommend going to 54T? i know 54 gives it a hyperbumblebee sound. wonder if the smaller teeth will also make it less durable or something, making 36T the better compromise
sometimes i notice the lax (20*) engagement arc and it annoys me.
they offer upgrades to 36T and to 54T. pros and cons to each? have you found that 36T is sufficient or would you recommend going to 54T? i know 54 gives it a hyperbumblebee sound. wonder if the smaller teeth will also make it less durable or something, making 36T the better compromise
Both Dura Ace 9000 and Ultegra 6800 has the same 20*. Is it really that big a deal?
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20° lag before engagement, worst case, is totally insignificant. Loud hubs, quiet hubs, everyone has an opinion, and there as many in one camp as the other. It is all meaningless.
09-01-17, 07:52 PM
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No way.
Last weekend I heard a guy coasting with that high pitched missile sound. I thought, that's just bad ass. Maybe even better than CK.
Because of this thread, I know what it is. I have the lame 18T on my new Fairwheel hoops. There's no way I don't get the $100 scream upgrade when the bike is finally done and ready to roll. That's not meaningless. That's awesome.
Last weekend I heard a guy coasting with that high pitched missile sound. I thought, that's just bad ass. Maybe even better than CK.
Because of this thread, I know what it is. I have the lame 18T on my new Fairwheel hoops. There's no way I don't get the $100 scream upgrade when the bike is finally done and ready to roll. That's not meaningless. That's awesome.
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I was surprised at how meaningFUL it was, in practice.
The sound is not a plus to me. Silent hub for me, thanks, when possible.
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I upgraded to 36t ratchets on my SS MTB, and noticed absolutely no difference, would not do again.
09-04-17, 08:48 AM
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I can say that I notice the "lag" quite a bit. I have 240's on my gravel rig and a PT hub on my race bike (which has DT Swiss internals), and have just emailed my wheel guy about upgrading the pawls.
It is easy to do? I found the kit on Amazon and since I'm home for the next 10 days or so, I might just tackle this.
It is easy to do? I found the kit on Amazon and since I'm home for the next 10 days or so, I might just tackle this.
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...has the arms race for more rear cogs now shifted to more ratchet teeth ? Interesting.
...has the arms race for more rear cogs now shifted to more ratchet teeth ? Interesting.
