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Old 06-07-05, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Ostuni
pmfji, but what exactly are 'eggbeaters'? (no entry in the harris glossary..) cheers
They are MTB pedals, but the Quattros are the road version using the same clip device.

Eggbeaters:


https://www.pricepoint.com/detail/125...me-Pedals-.htm

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https://www.pricepoint.com/detail/136...oad-Pedals.htm
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Speedplay X2s ... used to ride the original Shimano (Look style) for 13+ years, then SPDs (too many hot spots), now the X2s.
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Let us know how you like the RSE's when you get some miles on them Wurm.
I certainly will, jj. If they're good, bad, or in-between I'll say so honestly.


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I ride the CX-6 as I have adjusted the "Q-Factor" to get the best fit....
I think all of the newer Time RX_ models, and most of the older Impact's, are Q-adjustable as well. I like both Look & Time because of the larger platform that they provide.
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I've been using Look A5.1 for about a year now and have been very pleased. Easy to use and so far no hot spots. Reasonably priced as well if I remember correctly.
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This is a thread that is a good one for me. My wife and I just upgraded from our casual riding of our MTBs and bought new road bikes (Trek 1000, see earlier post). We didnt get pedals or shoes, thinking we can get those later on down the road when we get used to riding. Well, we both rode yesterday for about a mile or so just getting used to the bikes. When we got home, it was like ESP or something. We both said "we gotta get new pedals and shoes." I couldnt even get my foot in one of the "baskets" for quite a few feet down the road (like 20-30).

So, what would you guys recommend that isnt like $400, but on the flip side, I dont want cheap either. I was hoping for somewhere around the $150 range for pedals/cleats and shoes.

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So, what would you guys recommend that isnt like $400, but on the flip side, I dont want cheap either. I was hoping for somewhere around the $150 range for pedals/cleats and shoes.

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"Inexpensive" or "best value" IMO doesn't necessarily equate with "cheap". I can't recommend the Time RXE's yet because I haven't ridden them, but I've so far voted with my pocketbook by placing an order.

So now that you've mentioned it, I'm right around your ballpark price: I needed a new pair of road shoes lately, and one of the best values and best fitting that I've found is the Specialized Comp shoe @ $110. Then with the RXE's that totals $175. sans tax or shipping.
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Time RXE's. Light, low stack height, float, quiet, big platform, easy to adjust. And they cost less than 2 pairs of Speedplay cleats.

I've got about 3300 miles on mine. No complaints so far.
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I have no problem getting in and out of my Ultegras, but I can imagine some people finding them a bit hard to get out of.

I've gotta say I'm not 100% happy with the Shimano Ultegras. I get a tiny bit of movement when I pull up hard, which is annoying.

good value for money, though, especially if you have more than one bike.
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Alright...Im gonna sound like a total noob here (since I am). What is stack height, float, etc. Are there some shoes that are not compatible with some pedals? Do I have to take my bike back to the lbs to have the pedals installed/adjusted (I know my seat height should be a bit shorter because of the clip pedals, right)?

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I'd buy the quattros right now except one may have to do some modifications to sole of MTB shoe. I hesistate to do this.
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Originally Posted by mscycler
So, what would you guys recommend that isnt like $400, but on the flip side, I dont want cheap either. I was hoping for somewhere around the $150 range for pedals/cleats and shoes.
I'm riding Look pp206's, which run around $80(Performance), and Performance has the pp247s on sale right now ($75, link), which leaves you about 80 bucks for shoes, which can be done.

There's also this combo at PricePoint -- Adidas shoes w/Wellgo Look-style pedals
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Originally Posted by mscycler
Alright...Im gonna sound like a total noob here (since I am). What is stack height, float, etc. Are there some shoes that are not compatible with some pedals? Do I have to take my bike back to the lbs to have the pedals installed/adjusted (I know my seat height should be a bit shorter because of the clip pedals, right)?

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"Stack height" is just a phrase for the distance from the pedal axle to the cleat or bottom of the shoe. In general, less is more here.

"Float" is how much the foot can move or pivot while being clipped in. What's best for you may not be best for me.

Most shoes nowadays are compatible with most pedal systems, though there may be some that for whatever reason are not, or will need adapter plates.

If you're new to clipless, it might be better to have an LBS set them up for you initially. Once you get the hang of them however, you can probably make your own adjustments.
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Originally Posted by Wurm
"Stack height" is just a phrase, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.
good to see you fixed your Columbus dove

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I've been riding Bebop pedals for a few years - they're light, double-sided (so I don't have to look when I click in, just step down), and have a good amount of float, which helps with my knees. about $200.
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So the X-1's give you maybe a 20-30 gm. weight savings, and that's per pair. I think I'd rather spin an extra 10 or 15 grams per foot and have the larger platform with the RXS'. Kind of a no-brainer to me.
In the Speedplay world, the size of the pedal body is irrelevant. It's the size of the cleat that matters and the Speedplay cleats are quite large.
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I haven't spent much time learning about pedals/cleats, etc. When I bought my road bike last year, they put SPD pedals on it, and I found a pair of Specialized shoes (sort of hybrid road-MTB) to fit. I had originally looked at a pair of SIDI's, but what I understand now is that the sales guy didn't understand how he was going to get the SPD cleats on them! By and large, though, I have had no problems with them - very comfortable for me.

Then this Spring, my wife who had cheapo MTB shoes because she started spin classes before she bought a road bike, wanted new shoes. So she found a nice pair of SIDI's and learned that she was going to have to upgrade her pedals (Look). We had a few long rides where she had a tough time (and a few chice words) clipping in because the pedals weren't two-sided like the SPD's. And of course, when she put her foot down to stop, it was like wearing ice skates! But she seems to have adjusted now, and I am enamored of those new shoes!
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Originally Posted by Wurm
The Time's will give you a larger platform than some of the others like Speedplay or Eggbeater's, and hence less chance of hot-spotting.
While this is true of Eggbeaters, it is not true of Speedplay. As Khuon said, the Speedplay cleats are very large, in fact, the X and Zero cleats are larger than Looks or Shimano.
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Originally Posted by rydwhite
I've been using Look A5.1 for about a year now and have been very pleased. Easy to use and so far no hot spots. Reasonably priced as well if I remember correctly.
Just thought I'd mention that Performance has the A5.1 on sale tomorrow for about $115, with an additional $10 off any sale of $150 or more. Another 10% if Team Performance makes for a pretty good deal, although I think it's in-store only, so you have to live near enough to one.
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We’ve owned the following pedals, among others:

Speedplay Frogs
Shimano 959
Speedplay X/2
Shimano R600
Time Keo steel and Ti

I currently use the Keos and they’re very nice. However, I cannot honestly say that they feel/perform significantly better than the Shimano R600s. The Shimano R600s are excellent pedals, reasonably light and reliably – and they are probably the best value listed above.

I personally do not like the Speedplay pedals. They do offer nice float, and are easy enough to get onto with the 2-sided entry. However, I have found the relatively complex mechanism to be unreliable and subject to failure with exposure to even small amounts of roadside dirt/mud. In contrast, I have never had problems with the simple and reliable Shimano pedals. Shannon has had some frustrations with early release on the Speedplay Frogs.

I included some MTB pedals because I think that for many entry-level riders, SPD is the best way to go. Although the larger platform often feels better on the road and may offer better power transfer, with stiff-soled shoes like the Sidis, “hot spots” aren’t usually an issue for me. I use 959s on my road-touring bike, and I have done several 60-100 mile rides fully loaded with no “hot spot” problems.

I feel that the Shimano 959 is probably the best pedal I have ever seen. We have 4 or 5 pairs of those on different bikes. If I could only use one pedal/shoe combo on all my bikes, road or mountain, I would go with the 959s and Sidis.
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Originally Posted by ycookmd
I personally do not like the Speedplay pedals. They do offer nice float, and are easy enough to get onto with the 2-sided entry. However, I have found the relatively complex mechanism to be unreliable and subject to failure with exposure to even small amounts of roadside dirt/mud. In contrast, I have never had problems with the simple and reliable Shimano pedals. Shannon has had some frustrations with early release on the Speedplay Frogs.
Speedplay binding mechanisms are complex? Surely you jest. The Speedplay Zero and X pedals have one part that moves and it's a captive spring or C-clip. There are no linkages. The mechanism is elegant and simple. In contrast, other pedals have hinged jaws and linkage mechanisms. The Speedplay Frogs just use a small elastomer bumper at the edge to act as a spring for the locking tab. There are no other moving parts. Yes, the coatwire hanger spring in the Speedplay X cleats can get gummed up but so can the SPD and Look pedal jaws. The Zero cleats use a flat C-clip thus alleviates a lot of contamination sensitive problems. You can of course still pack mud into the cleat cavity. I regularly walk through gravel and muddy roads on my Zero cleats and haven't had a problem.
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I am torn between 3 pedals: speedplay zero, crankbrothers quarttro sl and look pp357 pedals. I am watching them on ebay so I really need some advice.
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Originally Posted by CycleFreakLS
While this is true of Eggbeaters, it is not true of Speedplay. As Khuon said, the Speedplay cleats are very large, in fact, the X and Zero cleats are larger than Looks or Shimano.
While I'm aware of the size of the Speedplay cleats, I'm not certain but I think the Time Impact and RX_ series' effective platforms are larger yet. You mentioned Look and Shimano, but none of their specific models, nor did you mention Time.

The problem with this whole thing is, everyone thinks their choice is the "best", so they get up here and start defending them. It's the same thing with other bike parts, frames, etc. The reality is that there are many good choices on the market today, to fit the many different body and riding styles.

What I try to do is find what works best for me, not someone else, then stick with it until/unless something better comes along.



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good to see you fixed your Columbus dove
Yes, it looks quite sporting now, doesn't it? I glommed it from that pic you posted.
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Originally Posted by Wurm
While I'm aware of the size of the Speedplay cleats, I'm not certain but I think the Time Impact and RX_ series' effective platforms are larger yet. You mentioned Look and Shimano, but none of their specific models, nor did you mention Time.
This is true. The Time RXS/RXE cleats (30.00 cm^2) are 1.51 cm^2 larger than Speedplay cleats (28.49 cm^2). BTW, Speedplay Zero Ti pedals are 164g/pair (including cleats). Speedplay Zero CrMo is 206g/pair (including cleats).


Originally Posted by Wurm
The problem with this whole thing is, everyone thinks their choice is the "best", so they get up here and start defending them. It's the same thing with other bike parts, frames, etc. The reality is that there are many good choices on the market today, to fit the many different body and riding styles.

What I try to do is find what works best for me, not someone else, then stick with it until/unless something better comes along.
Exactly. Everyone is different. I personally have an aversion to single-sided pedals. I have never been incredibly comfortable with them despite having spent a long time MTBing with toeclips/straps before the advent of SPD thus I almost always automatically discount single-sided clipless pedals as an option. However, I will have to say were that not the case, I'd probably be running the Time RX-series pedals. I like the features Time puts into their pedals. I'm running ATACs on my MTB.
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Another vote for Speedplays... I have X/1s on my race bike and X/2s on my commuter.
Simple, clean and elegant (not to mention light). The float is great, and so is 2-side entry. In group rides, once the light turns green while everyone is fumbling around I'm half way across the intersection...
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105 SPD-SLs.. got my tenion adjustment at the lowest level.. works fine for me.. I like the wider and stable platform. They have two cleat styles wide/narrow. The narrow ones allow more float... I am thinking about getting their wider cleat as it offers lesser float which I prefer..
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