I just retired my 2001 Cannondale R2000 which I logged 67,000 miles. Looking for something to fill the gap I was looking seriously at Cervelo. Much to my surprise I opted for the BMC Roadmachine 02.

All it took was one ride which blew me away. If you're looking for a bike that will do almost anything and is comfortable all day in the saddle I highly recommend this bike.

At $4,999 it's not the cheapest but the ride is silky smooth and it snaps out of the gate for sprints and corners on rails. Just my 2 cents.

So you dug up a case of a creak that was replaced with a new, different frame (that was more desired by the owner) and this is a bad thing?

...read the parts about dealing with trying to get it fixed and the time the bike was at the Trek repair facility. Then get back to me. It's like you don't even know what you with your lost package and the guy with the creaky Trek have in common.

I hope when youir package finally arrives, it's better than what you actually ordered.

Two weeks?! Holy **** - I'm selling my Domane.

...qft:

...fanboys.

....qft from the same thread:

You've found one person that had an inconvenience caused by a creak (which was never actually traced to the source of your retrogrouch ire) and the issue was taken care of in an above-and-beyond manner by the manufacturer. Sounds like a great endorsement, actually, so thanks for that.

Just curious where in Wisco you are. I'm in Wisco, too, albeit bike-friendly Madison (which, surprisingly, is missing lots of good brands).

...retrogrouch ire ?!!!? Well I never. *harumpph*

Some people are trying really hard to derail this thread...

OP, if you like the Trek, then go for it! Full speed ahead, you only live once, you can't take the cash with you in the after life, etc. Was looking at a review of it here and it seems to be really good:

https://www.bikeradar.com/us/road/ge...-review-51111/

I personally don't care if it has rim brakes or disc brakes. Anything that can fit good, is snappy handling and also still comfortable for a few hours in the saddle, then I'd go for it too. I only have experience with older Ultegra 6500 (9-speed) so far. But its still a great price point group that does really well. Its nice that you can fit 28mm tires on it. I can't do that on my older Orbea and Ridley frames. I do have on old Lemond 55cm frameset doing nothing in the basement that I might build up again to try it out. I think that might have more space for 28mm tires but would have to look it up to confirm.

I guess I'll risk a fire fight......but IMO the best bang for the buck will be an aluminum frame bike. Less expensive (generally) than a classic steel or a good CF frame. And, that will allow you to have higher end components and wheels. A lot depends on your personal proclivities but I am not over the moon about CF. Certainly nothing wrong with them, and I'm sure I'd be fine with one, but they have a "hollow" sound to them. For some reason that doesn't resonate with me. (Pun intended). If I was to shop for CF I'm not into the common bikes (I also am a pizza snob and think the only real pizza is from NYC. OK maybe Pepe's or Modern in New Haven) and would be looking for something Italian. Maybe like this: https://www.coloradocyclist.com/coln...gra-r8000-bike

If I was bike searching and wanted CF and could fit a L size I'd be sorely tempted by this Assos Goomah. https://www.excelsports.com/main.asp...jor=1&minor=35

I may be mistaken but I think Assos was the first to develop a CF frame back in the '70's. All in the name of something unique for this bike snob.

If you're not set on Trek or Spexialized, take a look at the Diamondback Podium and Century bikes. They're both fantastic. Additionally, I wouldnt be doing my brand any justice if I didn't mention KTM (ktmbikes.com). The Revelator 3500 is possibly the most comfortable bike I've ever ridden. And I'm not just saying that because I'm an Ambassador. It's why I became one in the first place.

Personally, and this is just a personal preference, but I shy away from Giant, Trek and Specialized. Not because they're bad bikes, but because there are just too many of them out there. When I go on for Fondos or big group or charity rides, I want to look in the crowd of bikes and not have mine just blend in. So I tend to favor botique manufacturers.

Picked this up about a month ago. Made a few small changes.

I have a Roubaix SL4 disc/Di2 - the previous generation without futureshock. It's an excellent bike.

If i were to get something today that would be my only road bike, I'd probably choose a non "endurance" road bike like a Tarmac or Venge but still with disc. Disc wheels allow use of fatter tires, which can be run at lower pressures, which would provide all the comfort I'd need.

My Roubaix has a long head tube, which really helped initially when I was stiff as a board, but over the last few years I've gained flexibility through daily stretching. That has allowed me to drop the cockpit and I no longer need the long HT.

is that a 60cm with a 175mm seatmast topper? What is you actual inseam?

As a side note, the absolute best money I've ever spent on cycling was on a Tacx Neo smart trainer, a power meter, and a TrainerRoad subscription. It's like a having a $100+/hr coach for a small initial investment and 8 bucks a month.

Cycling is somewhat unique in that a lot of people will go through a lifetime of participation without having ever spent a single minute or a single dollar on coaching. Even the sh***iest tennis player has had lessons.

It's a 60. Don't know seatmast or inseam. Sorry. (I wear 34 insean pants and the seat mast is stock if that helps.) At 6'-2" I am on the higher end of 60 and lower end of 62. The 60 as shown, fits beautifully.

I strongly considered a Tarmac DA, the Emonda SL6 and a couple others. But, I felt that these old bones needed a little flexibility in a bike. I prefer rim brakes on a road bike. The Domane will never see bad weather. My FX for daily training and X-Caliber for fun on the trails/snow both have disc brakes.