New 105 Groupset
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The newer (4700, 5800, ... ) levers can be adjusted in, for small hands, with a small allen screw under the hood. The older models need a shim between the lever and the lever body
Last edited by Racing Dan; 04-04-18 at 03:31 AM.
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I am going from ultegra on my backup bike to 5800 105 on my new bike. Granted, the ultegra is now 10 years old but it has performed great and if anything, the 105 is even smoother. Sorry the new version wasn't already out when I bought the new bike.
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Is there a reason why you couldn't adjust the reach on the break lever?
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I didn't hear them mention any weights. But the 5800 105 was only about a pound more than Di2. And they've probably now improved on that.
I still have 9 speed 105 on one of my backup bikes, and 10 speed 105 on another, and they both function flawlessly. 105 is great value.
I still have 9 speed 105 on one of my backup bikes, and 10 speed 105 on another, and they both function flawlessly. 105 is great value.
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Wasn't the significant change to the 105's front derailleur he talks about taken care of late last year when they released the FD-5801-B ??
I'm not a fan of the look of the new crank spiders with respect to how they look on vintage bikes. Nonetheless I put one on my 1991 Paramount as I can change the chainwheels from my 52/36 to a 50/34 without having to remove the crank. Nice for the few times I might need a little more climbing ability.
I'm putting another on my '78 Raleigh Competition soon after I get it painted. Have all the latest editions of the 5800 groupset sitting in boxes under my desk as I type this. Both glad and sad that there wasn't something so significant to make me wish I'd waited.
For newer bikes I think the aesthetic works well.
I'm not a fan of the look of the new crank spiders with respect to how they look on vintage bikes. Nonetheless I put one on my 1991 Paramount as I can change the chainwheels from my 52/36 to a 50/34 without having to remove the crank. Nice for the few times I might need a little more climbing ability.
I'm putting another on my '78 Raleigh Competition soon after I get it painted. Have all the latest editions of the 5800 groupset sitting in boxes under my desk as I type this. Both glad and sad that there wasn't something so significant to make me wish I'd waited.
For newer bikes I think the aesthetic works well.
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Wasn't the significant change to the 105's front derailleur he talks about taken care of late last year when they released the FD-5801-B ??
I'm not a fan of the look of the new crank spiders with respect to how they look on vintage bikes. Nonetheless I put one on my 1991 Paramount as I can change the chainwheels from my 52/36 to a 50/34 without having to remove the crank. Nice for the few times I might need a little more climbing ability.
I'm putting another on my '78 Raleigh Competition soon after I get it painted. Have all the latest editions of the 5800 groupset sitting in boxes under my desk as I type this. Both glad and sad that there wasn't something so significant to make me wish I'd waited.
For newer bikes I think the aesthetic works well.
I'm not a fan of the look of the new crank spiders with respect to how they look on vintage bikes. Nonetheless I put one on my 1991 Paramount as I can change the chainwheels from my 52/36 to a 50/34 without having to remove the crank. Nice for the few times I might need a little more climbing ability.
I'm putting another on my '78 Raleigh Competition soon after I get it painted. Have all the latest editions of the 5800 groupset sitting in boxes under my desk as I type this. Both glad and sad that there wasn't something so significant to make me wish I'd waited.
For newer bikes I think the aesthetic works well.
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Rider doesn't fit the bike = it's the design's fault 
I have small hands as well which is why I initially preferred SRAM hoods and levers, but I've since gone full Shimano with 6800 and 5800 and I have never had an issue panic-braking in traffic on my commutes. If anything, the fact that the levers are larger makes me feel safer because there's a lot more lever to actually grab if you need to. You've got to be doing something totally wonky if you shift when you're trying to brake.

I have small hands as well which is why I initially preferred SRAM hoods and levers, but I've since gone full Shimano with 6800 and 5800 and I have never had an issue panic-braking in traffic on my commutes. If anything, the fact that the levers are larger makes me feel safer because there's a lot more lever to actually grab if you need to. You've got to be doing something totally wonky if you shift when you're trying to brake.
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Rider doesn't fit the bike = it's the design's fault 
I have small hands as well which is why I initially preferred SRAM hoods and levers, but I've since gone full Shimano with 6800 and 5800 and I have never had an issue panic-braking in traffic on my commutes. If anything, the fact that the levers are larger makes me feel safer because there's a lot more lever to actually grab if you need to. You've got to be doing something totally wonky if you shift when you're trying to brake.

I have small hands as well which is why I initially preferred SRAM hoods and levers, but I've since gone full Shimano with 6800 and 5800 and I have never had an issue panic-braking in traffic on my commutes. If anything, the fact that the levers are larger makes me feel safer because there's a lot more lever to actually grab if you need to. You've got to be doing something totally wonky if you shift when you're trying to brake.
Mini rant over ... :-)
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Sidetracked.
Like we expected DC STI to change suddenly on a 105 groupset? Really?
Back to non-under tape design? Really?
More on Topic.
11-34 on ten speed hub. Cool.
Crank design polarizing. Cool.
Like we expected DC STI to change suddenly on a 105 groupset? Really?
Back to non-under tape design? Really?
More on Topic.
11-34 on ten speed hub. Cool.
Crank design polarizing. Cool.
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I have t wonder where people are riding that they need an 11-34. I'm running an 11-28 10 sp. and I just bought a 12-26 cause I don't think I need a 28. FWIW, I am somewhat climbing challenged and it's not flat around here.
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I'm not a fan of the look of the new crank spiders with respect to how they look on vintage bikes. Nonetheless I put one on my 1991 Paramount as I can change the chainwheels from my 52/36 to a 50/34 without having to remove the crank. Nice for the few times I might need a little more climbing ability.
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For me it is when the ride starts at +8,000' and goes up from there, being 99% of my riding is in the 800' elevation range.




