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Old 07-08-18 | 07:28 PM
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Needing a flat repair kit

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I am doing my first organized ride in two weeks and I need to get a flat repair kit for the bike to take with me in case I get a flat. I was looking at the Trek website and it seems they sell a ready made kit and was wondering if this would be a good choice? Is it missing anything? I am signed up for a class on how to change a flat but this ride will have support so if worst case I can get someone to help... I think

https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/e...-pack/p/07727/

Any advice or suggestions are welcome!

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That particular kit.... is a little underwhelming for me. Even in my fast bikes small, light bag, I have a few more things.
Of course a tube (for the bike you're riding). I put it in a one gallon Ziploc bag (for the old tube, see below).
A scab patch kit (they're tiny) you keep the tube you replace... and repair it for the 2nd flat (see above).
Two tire levers (I don't like matching ones) I prefer one thin and one thick.
About a foot of duct tape.... wrapped around one of the tire levers.
A multi-tool
A mini [swiss-tech] plier
a small knife
I prefer C02 inflators, and a 20 gram cartridge (learn how to use it before you need it)
1 each individual handy wipe.
A "tube" of chap-lip stuff.... for lips and emergency bike lube.
2 small wire ties
I like to carry a cheap cable bike lock. Rarely do I leave my bike for even a minute. But if I do it has a lock that might deter an antsy juvenile.
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I try not to over complicate things. A tube, a CO2 cartridge, an inflator, and a set of tire levers. Granted, I kinda bank on not flatting twice in a single ride, but that has never been a problem for me. If worried about that (extra long solo ride in remote regions) I’d stash an extra tube and CO2 in the jersey pocket.

i also carry a tire boot, but it works no better than a dollar bill or shot block a wrapper.
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I would pass on that kit. Most portable pump that require you to use both arms; will suck.
You want a pump that has a foot piece and you'll push down w/ 1 hand. Most folks like
Topeak Morph G:
https://www.rei.com/product/648089/t...CABEgL3n_D_BwE
In addition to the pump; I also carry a spare tube, patch kit & multitool. Here's my overview on patching:
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…. I am doing my first organized ride
Maybe this isn't the place. But IF the OP is a causal rider.... they may never have considered riding on a rainy day. Whereas the ride organizers may be planning a ride come rain or shine. So whether your riding in a cycling jersey and spandex, or a tee shirt and cargo pants.... you'll want to keep your phone in a Ziploc bag. That way no surprise wet event... will ruin your phone.

In my sandwich sized Ziploc... I also carry a few bucks, a pair of nose-readers, and a paper copy of my DL and insurance card.
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Vger, the kit you listed will work but you will need a patch kit too. Like so https://www.rei.com/product/113227/x...pair-patch-kit

I agree with the comments about a better pump. I personally use 20g C02 cartridges and an inflator head. Like this, but smaller https://www.rei.com/product/141623/p...-38g-cartridge

You can shop around and save money. Be sure to practice with this stuff before the ride. Watch some videos and do it yourself about 3 times and you'll be able to fix flats with no stress on your rides.
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Gonna have to mostly agree with Dave Cutter but his listr is more inclusive than mine...

1 tube
1 patch kit just in case
1 tire lever (which I usually don't need)
1 CO2 inflator, threaded
2 or 3 CO2 canisters (16 g will nicely fill a road tire)
tire boot (park boots are cheap, and they stick so they're easier to use than a dollar bill)

For LONG rides away from civilization, I'll add a multi tool and an extra tube. I do have one of those tiny pumps (lezyne road drive) but DAMN they're a PITB.

Always carry a cell phone, credit card, ID and the uber app just in case.
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Originally Posted by TrojanHorse
Gonna have to mostly agree with Dave Cutter but his listr is more inclusive than mine...

1 tube
1 patch kit just in case
1 tire lever (which I usually don't need)
1 CO2 inflator, threaded
2 or 3 CO2 canisters (16 g will nicely fill a road tire)
tire boot (park boots are cheap, and they stick so they're easier to use than a dollar bill)

For LONG rides away from civilization, I'll add a multi tool and an extra tube. I do have one of those tiny pumps (lezyne road drive) but DAMN they're a PITB.

Always carry a cell phone, credit card, ID and the uber app just in case.
For long rides I carry *two* brand new tubes. I patch, test and then use the repaired tubes on short rides. I sacrifice a $1 as a boot. I have CO2 but haven't tried or used it yet. Patch kits that have vulcanizing "glue" are much better than the stick on patches. I like the Rema TipTop kits. Buy more space patches on ebay/Amazon (should be able to get 50 or so for under $5). I recommend a couple of latex/nitrile gloves in case you need to handle the chain. I've also started carrying an individually packaged wet hand wipe.

I have a Lezyne Pressure Drive, but it takes a lot of energy to inflate a tire. The road morph looks like it is better for people without arm strength, but my friend has a Lezyne Micro Floor Drive on his bike that has 32mm tires and that looks like a good choice for larger tires.
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Old 07-09-18 | 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by voyager1
Hey Everyone!

I am doing my first organized ride in two weeks and I need to get a flat repair kit for the bike to take with me in case I get a flat. I was looking at the Trek website and it seems they sell a ready made kit and was wondering if this would be a good choice? Is it missing anything? I am signed up for a class on how to change a flat but this ride will have support so if worst case I can get someone to help... I think

https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/e...-pack/p/07727/

Any advice or suggestions are welcome!

Thanks in advance.
Hand pumps are fine, but Co2 is faster. Better if some one is waiting for you. Bring a few Co2 canisters, two fresh tubes, a tyre boot and some good tyre levers. Remember to check the tyre for sharp objects before you put it back on. Get a patch kit to mend tubes at home.
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Old 07-09-18 | 06:25 AM
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Lezyne mini pump, tube, 2 tire levers, and patch kit. The pump fits into my small tool bag along with the rest.
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1. Topeak Roadmorph Mini (the full size road morph is a nicer pump but larger and harder to carry so I just bring the mini on my commuter):
https://www.amazon.com/Topeak-Mini-M...dp/B000FICCQC/

2. Replacement tire inner tube (you need the right size though, you can either figure it out from the side of the tire yourself, or take your bike to your local bike shop and ask them for a replacement tube in the right size):
https://www.amazon.com/Continental-P...dp/B01CYTV4OA/

3. Gluless patches
4. Tire levers
https://www.amazon.com/Park-Tool-TR-...dp/B000AO7K0E/

Other thoughts:
- "glue" tire patch kits - I don't like them because the glue tube tends to glue itself shut after it's first use making the whole kit one time use.
- CO2 - no way I'd recommend this to someone who is just learning to change a flat as you do it wrong and you lose all the CO2 in the cartridge. Pumps never run out of air so if you hook it wrong the first time no big deal.
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maybe watch youtube videos on how to fix a flat or change a tube or boot a torn tire & build your "kit" based on what you don't already have. what kind of valves do you have? presta or schrader?
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Old 07-09-18 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by voyager1
Hey Everyone!

I am doing my first organized ride in two weeks and I need to get a flat repair kit for the bike to take with me in case I get a flat. I was looking at the Trek website and it seems they sell a ready made kit and was wondering if this would be a good choice? Is it missing anything? I am signed up for a class on how to change a flat but this ride will have support so if worst case I can get someone to help... I think

https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/e...-pack/p/07727/

Any advice or suggestions are welcome!

Thanks in advance.
That looks fine. I wouldn't overcomplicate things. I carry a mini frame pump and a saddle bag. Saddle bag contains:
tube
patch kit (patches, vulcanizing fluid, boot cut from an old tire)
CO2 cartridge and chuck
tire lever

First flat gets a new tube and CO2. 90% of the time, this is all I ever need. Second and subsequent flats (rare, but it happens) get a patch and pump. Anything worse, and I'm probably going to have to call in support.

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Definitely practice fixing a flat in your own garage before you go. Standing on the side of the road is not the place to do it for the first time.
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I try not to over complicate things. A tube, a CO2 cartridge, an inflator, and a set of tire levers. Granted, I kinda bank on not flatting twice in a single ride, but that has never been a problem for me. If worried about that (extra long solo ride in remote regions) I’d stash an extra tube and CO2 in the jersey pocket.

i also carry a tire boot, but it works no better than a dollar bill or shot block a wrapper.
Sounds like a good plan!
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Originally Posted by Dave Cutter
Maybe this isn't the place. But IF the OP is a causal rider.... they may never have considered riding on a rainy day. Whereas the ride organizers may be planning a ride come rain or shine. So whether your riding in a cycling jersey and spandex, or a tee shirt and cargo pants.... you'll want to keep your phone in a Ziploc bag. That way no surprise wet event... will ruin your phone.

In my sandwich sized Ziploc... I also carry a few bucks, a pair of nose-readers, and a paper copy of my DL and insurance card.
Good idea about the ziplock. I have one of those phone holders on my handle bars, great for printouts from Ride With GPS and keeps the phone dry!
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maybe watch youtube videos on how to fix a flat or change a tube or boot a torn tire & build your "kit" based on what you don't already have. what kind of valves do you have? presta or schrader?
Presta, judging from the pics. The tires are Bontrager AW3 Hard Case. No flats yet! 😀
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Originally Posted by Dave Cutter
That particular kit.... is a little underwhelming for me. Even in my fast bikes small, light bag, I have a few more things.
Of course a tube (for the bike you're riding). I put it in a one gallon Ziploc bag (for the old tube, see below).
A scab patch kit (they're tiny) you keep the tube you replace... and repair it for the 2nd flat (see above).
Two tire levers (I don't like matching ones) I prefer one thin and one thick.
About a foot of duct tape.... wrapped around one of the tire levers.
A multi-tool
A mini [swiss-tech] plier
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I prefer C02 inflators, and a 20 gram cartridge (learn how to use it before you need it)
1 each individual handy wipe.
A "tube" of chap-lip stuff.... for lips and emergency bike lube.
2 small wire ties
I like to carry a cheap cable bike lock. Rarely do I leave my bike for even a minute. But if I do it has a lock that might deter an antsy juvenile.
Great list. Thanks!
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Presta, judging from the pics. The tires are Bontrager AW3 Hard Case. No flats yet! ��
great durable tires. have you filled the tires/tubes yourself at all yet? my 1st presta tube replacement road-side was pretty frustrating
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great durable tires. have you filled the tires/tubes yourself at all yet? my 1st presta tube replacement road-side was pretty frustrating
Yes but I have only used a floor pump. But figuring out the valves without a YouTube video explaining the valve was not intuitive to me. But now I am good with the valves. I check the tires each day before a ride, I just check by hand, probably going to get a gauge at some point.
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I just check by hand, probably going to get a gauge at some point.
eh, gauges are over rated, especially with the talk lately of riding w lower pressures. I had a ride last night & didn't sweat the pressure, just gave them a squeeze
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2 tubes
leave the patch kit at home
2 tire levers if you need them
Road Morph G pump
Most important thing! Remove and replace tube at home at least a couple times to make sure you get it down. It's extremely easy to damage the tube with tire levers. Experienced riders prefer to remove and replace the tire by hand. Always inflate the tube to just round before installing.
Here are a couple of videos on flat changing:

However the above videos, having been made by children, don't show the most important steps - how not to get another flat immediately. For those, see this video:
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