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Old 11-14-18 | 08:18 AM
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Thoughts on Wahoo Elemnt Bolt

I have been leaving my XC mountain bike at work and riding it during lunch (since it gets dark at 4:30 in Italy this time of year...). It seems like every time I go to ride my road bike, the Garmin 520 I currently have is at work...That and the fact that I like gadgets has me looking in to another cycling computer to leave on my road bike permanently. Anyone have any feedback on the Wahoo units? How do they compare to the Garmin?
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I replaced a Garmin Edge 510 with an Elemnt Bolt. I like it a lot, but based on other similar threads, it depends on how you really use your bike GPS.
I like not having a touchscreen. I like making adjustments with my phone. I like how it perfectly syncs with Training Peaks. I like how it flashes at me when I'm doing intervals and I'm not quite hitting my numbers which keeps me conscious of my cadence. I like how seamless the software upgrades are. I like that it works the way it is supposed to without any issues every time. And hey, it's the most aerodynamic GPS unit currently out there...
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Originally Posted by Clipped_in
I replaced a Garmin Edge 510 with an Elemnt Bolt. I like it a lot, but based on other similar threads, it depends on how you really use your bike GPS.
I like not having a touchscreen. I like making adjustments with my phone. I like how it perfectly syncs with Training Peaks. I like how it flashes at me when I'm doing intervals and I'm not quite hitting my numbers which keeps me conscious of my cadence. I like how seamless the software upgrades are. I like that it works the way it is supposed to without any issues every time. And hey, it's the most aerodynamic GPS unit currently out there...
I use my Garmin primarily to look at metrics while I ride and to upload to Strava. The Strava interface was seamless when I got it but now is a little janky....I have to mess with the bluetooth settings on my phone to make it upload...Not sure why. I am hoping the Elemnt is better in that aspect...
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I use my Garmin primarily to look at metrics while I ride and to upload to Strava. The Strava interface was seamless when I got it but now is a little janky....I have to mess with the bluetooth settings on my phone to make it upload...Not sure why. I am hoping the Elemnt is better in that aspect...
IIRC, you need WiFi to upload/sync with the Bolt. I suppose that you could set up a mobile hot-spot on your phone, but I've never bothered - most of my rides end at home and sync shortly after I walk through the door.
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IIRC, you need WiFi to upload/sync with the Bolt. I suppose that you could set up a mobile hot-spot on your phone, but I've never bothered - most of my rides end at home and sync shortly after I walk through the door.
It has both wifi and bluetooth wireless upload/syncing.
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It has both wifi and bluetooth wireless upload/syncing.
Wahoo says it needs WiFi and on a recent pub crawl, it didn't UL/sync any of my rides until I got home. *shrug*

Q: DOES MY ELEMNT BOLT NEED TO BE CONNECTED TO WIFI TO SYNC STRAVA SEGMENTS?
A: Yes, the ELEMNT Bolt must be connected to a WiFi network
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Wahoo says it needs WiFi and on a recent pub crawl, it didn't UL/sync any of my rides until I got home. *shrug*
I think that's just for live strava segments, which is different than simply syncing/uploading my rides to strava. My Bolt connects to my phone via bluetooth, then the Wahoo app on my phone syncs the ride with Strava via wifi.
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My Bolt connects to my phone via bluetooth, then the Wahoo app on my phone syncs the ride with Strava via wifi.
So WiFi is needed to upload/sync rides with Strava. Isn't that what I've been saying? Again, though, Wahoo says differently than you on the mechanics of it, and that the phone isn't the intermediary, the Bolt connects directly to the WiFi -

The ELEMNT and BOLT require internet-connected WiFi to the bike computer directly for automatic workout uploads, firmware updates, route or map downloads, Strava Live Segment synchronization and other internet-enabled features.
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Sorry my direct personal experience isn't good enough for you. I'm out.
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Sorry my direct personal experience isn't good enough for you. I'm out.
That's weirdly butt-hurt. Aren't we agreeing that WiFi is necessary and simply clarifying which device is communicating what? Am I not relating my direct, personal experience too?
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So if you look at DC Rainmaker's review, the Wahoo will load your Strava rides straight to your account via Bluetooth. It needs WIFI to sync Strava Segments. You are both right. Back to the thread. Any other thoughts on this unit?

https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2017/03/...th-review.html
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That's weirdly butt-hurt. Aren't we agreeing that WiFi is necessary and simply clarifying which device is communicating what? Am I not relating my direct, personal experience too?
All i know is that i just turn on BT on my phone and it just upload automatically to Strava, no need for setting up a hotspot connection. Most phones now days have data connection so it shouldn't be a big issue i guess unless you had poor network reception if it were your case.
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....and then on the Travel Help page, it says that it *will* upload via an internet-connected phone if the companion app is connected to the Element/Bolt -



...but it also says that you can import individual routes when with an internet-connected phone running the companion app, which certainly hasn't worked for me in the past (I've had no success loading a route from RwGPS while in the field).
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Any other thoughts on this unit?
Nope. It does what it's needed to do and it's easy to use. Evidently the mapping/re-routing featureset lags behind the most recent Garmins (live re-routing like a car GPS, to get you back on course in the event of a detour), but I guess that I don't ride though parts unknown enough to have missed that.
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I've used a Garmin 520 for about 2 1/2 years now. It's worked flawlessly for me, but I know others haven't been that lucky. Being a gadget nerd I bought a Bolt a couple of months ago. I had a lot of issues with the unit dropping sensors during a ride. Customer support walked me through some fixes but it was just never that reliable. I also use the unit for navigation and turn by turn directions. The color screen on the 520 is much better for this kind of use than the Bolt. In the end I returned the Bolt and went back to using the 520.

That being said, I ride with 5 or 6 people who bought the Bolt and love it. I say go for it, and if it doesn't suit you return it within 30 days for a refund or credit.

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I like mine. I chose it primarily because wahoo was only brand that let me sync directly with ridewithgps. It dowloads routes from the site when connected to wifi; uploads routes to both Ridewithgps and Strava with just BT.
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So WiFi is needed to upload/sync rides with Strava.
No. The Bolt links to your phone and your phone can use it's own data to upload to Strava. You don't need wifi.
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Between home wifi, office wifi, 4g cellular and BT, I never have to worry about how it is all connecting, it just does. I'm finding all of the bike gear to be over-connected in that just about any combo will work and usually there is more than one. It all sounds confusing until you use it and find it just connects.
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I love my bolt. I used it I’ve for 13 hours straight and still had 10% battery life left. Everyone else on that one overnight ride lost their garmin at the ninth hour.

I use all wahoo sensors over four different bikes and they all synch and stay connected all the time. Can’t say enough good things about it.

I pit around 100 miles weekly and it has not failed yet I’m over a year of use.
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The other thing Imwill say about Wahoo is that their customer service is very responsive. I was having an issue with uploading my bike commuting miles at the end of the day where loading my morning commute to Strava kept failing (no wifi or cell reception at work so cant upload my outward leg till I get home at the end of the day) and they were able tomsort me out.

By the way, on issue of commuting, my one criticism of Wahoo pertains to commuting. I would like to be able to record my daily commute as single ride that starts in the morning, then restarts in evening despite the 8-9hr gap in the middle. Wahoo has a ride recovery function that lets you stop, power off the unit while ride is paused, and then restart the same ride (a nice feature if you are doing a long ride and stop for lunch or what have you for an extended period). But the recovery feature only works if you restart within 6 hrs powering computer off,so there is no way to record my round trip commute as a single out and back ride with a 9 hr break in the middle. No big deal except that recording two short rides a day rather than one coninuous ride clutters my ride log. There is a way to go into Strava and Ridewithgps to link the rides after the fact, but thats kind of a pain, so would be nice if the recovery festure wasnt limited to 6hrs.
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No. The Bolt links to your phone and your phone can use it's own data to upload to Strava. You don't need wifi.
This.

I've used the WiFi direct sync mode, as well as synced with my phone via Bluetooth and the ride has always uploaded to Strava seamlessly.
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I'm interested in the Bolt, but not sure what kind of external sensors to get. Seems like cadence is a important, as is possibly heart rate. Is the speed sensor worth having?

Does Wahoo include route planning software, or is it extra cost?

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I just bought a Wahoo Elemnt Bolt, Friday afternoon, charged it up overnight, read the quick start guide, and went on a gravel ride in foothill country the next morning. I've been using the free version of Strava for this year, and connected my account with the iPhone app. The organized ride offered the RidewithGPS route on their web page, so quickly, as i was having coffee and before my buddy arrived, i somehow loaded that route correctly into the Bolt.

Everything worked out great. Nowhere near knowing the full capabilities of this computer, i stumbled across the elevation profile offered on the Bolt during the ride which was fun to check out (we had about 3,000 feet of elevation climbing that day). Also during the ride, i found it would beep before an upcoming turn, and showed an arrow which direction to turn, with a countdown of distance as i approached. I have some reading to do on its capabilities.

I goofed big time by recording the ride with the Bolt AND my Strava app, but now i know to just use the Bolt. Anybody know which one would be more accurate? I'm not using any of the extra Wahoo sensors, though i might get the HR chest strap later. Without a subscription to Strava, i don't think it would be displayed except on the Bolt or it's app anyway.

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Originally Posted by Robert A
I'm interested in the Bolt, but not sure what kind of external sensors to get. Seems like cadence is a important, as is possibly heart rate. Is the speed sensor worth having?

Does Wahoo include route planning software, or is it extra cost?

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GPS signal strength varies depending where you are. It messed with my speed accuracy so I purchased their speed sensor. Yes heart rate and cadence are good to have. I have them too.
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I'm interested in the Bolt, but not sure what kind of external sensors to get. Seems like cadence is a important, as is possibly heart rate. Is the speed sensor worth having?

Does Wahoo include route planning software, or is it extra cost?

Thank you.
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You don’t need any of the sensors but speed sensor is worth having if you want a more consistent speed reading when riding.. Even when gps signal is strong, GPS measures speed based on travel time across a longer distance than a sensor on your wheel so you will get more consistant reading from the sensor. I find GPS gives more accurate data on distance and elevation than a sensor alone so the tw complement eachother. The other sensors will be useful for you for training and monitoring level of effort during the rides.

The wahoo computer pairs with an app that has some route planning capability. But it also syncs directly with ridewithgps, which has superior route planning capability for free via its basic membership, including turn by turn, so thats what I use.
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