On the plus side, once you've finished it you don't have to eat for a week.

But you may have to **** for a week.

Or, with all that cheese, you may simply wish you could.

Which reminds me of something I saw a few years ago which convinced me American Society was headed for the Ash Heap Of History. It was a bacon cheesburger which used Krispy Kreme donuts instead of buns. "Sign of the Apocalypse", I said.

And here we are.

I wasn't telling you what to do. I was pointing out that one is able to explain one's position and why one disagrees with another person's point of view without calling that person a tool. Since I happen to agree with the other person, I guess you think I'm a tool also. And, as such, I'm probably wasting my time responding.

I don't think that guy was simply complaining about not being skinny enough to race. I think he was pointing out that eating disorders are a real problem among cyclists (even more so among jockeys, btw), and that Rapha should be careful not to encourage that.

Is it any more absurd than people on this forum complaining about him tweeting his opinion?

The Do you really think that weird quote (on a bottle) would encourage eating disorders? Seems far-fetched.

What's so weird about it? And yes, I suppose it could among a certain audience. If you know much about eating disorders, that shouldn't surprise you. But the point is that it was, in my opinion, a reasonable criticism for someone to make. You can disagree with it, but it's not crazy.

By the way, to bring this thread back on point, I went for a 4.5 hour ride yesterday in my relatively new Rapha bibs and jersey, and they were very comfortable.

I did the same on Saturday and this was with Core Bibs and Jersey. For under $200 retail for the both of 'em, I was comfy and looked smashing (), so I can't complain.

Did any of the Common People give you the hairy eyeball?

I almost pulled the trigger on a Core jersey, but I hesitated (Hey, $80 is still $80!)and my size is out of stock.

It’s weird to have that sort of text on bottles. It’s weird text without context. It’s weird all around. That’s probably why Rapha added it.

Anything is possible. It might even discourage it among a certain audience. So, you aren’t really saying anything.

It seems very unlikely. And it’s on a water bottle, which makes it even less likely.

I've been waiting to pick up some more, but they're out in a lot of stuff. All of the Core Bibs (Black/Cream, Black and Cargo) are out of stock in my size and my first three or so choices in Core Jersey (between regular Core or Lightweight) are out of stock, too.

I keep finding everything I want is out of stock in my size. I suspect there may be more 6', 220lb guys on the road these days.

LOL - seeing how the bulk of my ride was in Malibu, if anyone was giving me dirty looks, it was only because I was riding an old frame.

I'm not arguing with you anymore. All I said was that you didn't need to call the guy a tool. I'm over it and moving on.

I think there's just more people of every size on the road these days.

Indeed. And none of them seem to be able to hold a line.

Even I don't want to eat that, and you know how much food I plow through.

I'm already regretting wading into this thread, but here I go anyway

• Rapha is nice when it fits, and not overpriced if you can wear their S and XS sizes like I can and get it at big discounts. I have never stepped into one of their stores, and none of my archive purchases even have a big logo, they're all almost invisible black on black or white on white
• Rapha's non-pro line sizing is generous, UK sizing compared to Italian sizing, which doesn't work well all the time for me given that I even find Castelli to be either too loose or short
• Despite being gravitationally advantaged, I don't think it's cool for them to glorify the unhealthy and uninformed training strategies cyclists employ. You don't have to go far to see widespread unhealthy behaviors not just in the pro ranks. It's so common for amateurs to obsess with reaching lowest weight when they should work on sustainable power that many recent articles have come out warning people not to do that or get RED-S. I also think it's similar to the problem with fashion models. It'd be equally disturbing to see lipstick come with a message about Kate Moss opening a chocolate bar to smell it before throwing it away (or whatever).

???

I did not call the guy a tool.

You said that guy could have his opinion and then complained about him expressing his opinion.

I never complained about him expressing his opinion. I said I agreed with him. Let's put this to bed.

More people are cycling(and buying gear) this year. My shop can't keep bikes under $2k in stock, and it's very slim picking on clothing sizes/styles. Sadly It's not a huge sales year for us. In April we absolutely killed it, but we didn't have any product to sell in May or June. The profit margin is higher than normal, because people are paying MSRP, but the number of bikes sold(in the second quarter) isn't much greater than the last few years.

You complained about one of his opinions.

If you want to stop it, why do you keep replying?

You don’t need to reply.