mpath

I'm looking at the new Cinelli Pressure. Fit-wise I'm dialed in to current Look 695 size XS, but the geometry falls in between the Cinelli's XS and S in stack, reach, top tube, head tube, etc by ~5 -10 mm or so. Which size should I go for?

Iride01 

With all the detailed info you gave us about your size and the bikes, then I'd say get the one that fits. <grin>

Tube lengths don't matter as much as do where the contact points of your body to the bicycle wind up. Differing tube lengths, angles, stem length, handlebar reach/drop, crank length and other things affect that that you won't know by just looking for how long the top tube is.

ridelikeaturtle

I don't know what size you should get, but that bike is flippin' hot.

vespasianus

You can also get that bike in black:

ENGINE11 ? ENGINE11 Mach1 frame set.

For sizing, how do you feel your current bike is? If perfect, I would look for something that is similar and skip this bike. If you always felt it was too short or too long, go in that direction but to me it would be a tough call without a test ride.

jad3675

So, Cinelli is doing open mold bikes now?

vespasianus

Actually, I think most their stuff is open mold.

mpath

Deliveries won't be until end of the year no chance to test ride it, and doubtful my local LBS would build up in multiple sizes for road tests. My Look has the ideal fit as I can do a century with no pain points or hot spots, other than general fatigue after. I'll be keeping the Look, but I just want another bike - an aero frame this time - without being the big four - Trek, Specialized, Giant, Cannondale (nothing wrong with these!) - or ones my riding buddies have - the Basso Diamante SV, Colnago Concept, De Rosa SK.




Geometry-wise, as they say, you can't make a big bike small. So going for the smaller of the two, hopefully I can adjust the seat and perhaps increase the stem length to dial in the fit.

Bellati Sport is current offering the frameset for ~US$3200 but includes the Vision Metron 5D integrated handlebar instead of the unbranded one (probably exactly the same).

vespasianus

I hear you regarding the big four. Nothing wrong with them but also nothing wrong with trying to get something different. And for what it is worth, when I had my Cinelli Superstar repaired, I had the shop do a complete scan (ultrasound and internal scope) to check the frame and make sure it was ok. He actually said that it was really well built and better than the Specialized and Treks he normally repairs.

Also, Antonio Colombo seems like a bit of a crazy wacky dude. Personally, I like that. The silly smily face on the Pressure for example, just classic Colombo.

mpath

Yeah the smily face is a quirky detail. And despite the fact that it's the same frame, the Cinelli's paint scheme is world's apart compared to Engine11's.

jad3675

That's disappointing - even the Superstar and Strato Faster - two bikes they actually race on?

John

jadocs

You never stated how your Look 695 is dialed in so it's impossible to say which size Cinelli one would choose.

Other than stack and reach, you have stem length. If your 695 is dialed in with a 120mm stem, then it would make sense to go with the larger Cinelli.

mpath

100 mm stem. Here's the comparison from Geometry Geeks: https://geometrygeeks.bike/compare/l...light-2017-xs/

jadocs

When I pull that up on my phone (blocked on desktop at work) it has "2012-13 Look 695 XS" and "2017 Look 695 XS" (in addition to the Cinelli you are looking at). Which 695 do you have? because they both appear to have slightly different geo if I'm reading it right.

mpath

2012 but the data points on Geometry Geek are incomplete so I added the 2017 as well (same frame, just slightly different carbon layup for the aerolight).

jadocs

Well, going off the 2017 data and the fact that you are currently dialed in with a 100mm stem on the 695....and the XS Cinelli reach is 5mm shorter with a 3mm shorter stack....and also looking at how your 695 is currently setup (you look flexible - in other words you don't have a ton of spacers and decent saddle to bar drop)....I would tend to lean towards the XS Cinelli on a 110mm stem

That's just my thought process above.

mpath

Thank you. You've been very helpful. My winter project will be on how I'll build the bike up - first time with discs for me.