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WTF is happening to roadie outfits/brands? more flashy more expensive?

Old 05-09-24, 12:29 PM
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One of my other hobbies is fly fishing. It's the same thing there, where they know they are catering to affluent people with a lot of disposable income.
Dammit, I was going to start doing some fly fishing soon, too.
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Originally Posted by eduskator
Yeah, all of this is very subjective. However, there is - generally speaking - a correlation between price and quality.

You pay a lot for the marketing when you buy big brand clothing (PNS, for instance). You also pay for the R&D behind the scene.
The correlation between price and quality is non-linear and at some price point you start to see diminishing returns.

I seek value - good style and quality at a good price.
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Originally Posted by john m flores
The correlation between price and quality is non-linear and at some price point you start to see diminishing returns.
That's just it. As I mentioned before fly fishing is my other hobby (I guided for 10 years) and once you get past the $500 price point for a fly rod it's nothing but diminishing returns. It's more of status thing or following the popular crowd on the brand name fly rods. So many folks think the $1000 fly rod is better than the $300-$500 rod.
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Originally Posted by prj71
That's just it. As I mentioned before fly fishing is my other hobby (I guided for 10 years) and once you get past the $500 price point for a fly rod it's nothing but diminishing returns. It's more of status thing or following the popular crowd on the brand name fly rods. So many folks think the $1000 fly rod is better than the $300-$500 rod.
During my non-cycling years, my main hobby was music (guitar, bass, and recording). Music folks spend a whole lot of money on diminishing returns.
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Originally Posted by Eric F
During my non-cycling years, my main hobby was music (guitar, bass, and recording). Music folks spend a whole lot of money on diminishing returns.
The term from economics is diminishing marginal utility. (Utility = satisfaction, essentially.) Less and less additional utility for each additional dollar (or hundred dollars, or thousand dollars) spent.

Of course, utility is subjective and determined by a range of factors including budget constraint. If my longest rides are toodling around the 'hood and I'm eating ramen noodles 3x per week, I'm probably not going to buy cf-rimmed wheels. But if I'm relatively affluent and racing all summer long, I'm more likely to buy them.

When someone judges another's spending and describes it as irrational, they are passing judgment on something that they inherently cannot know.
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Originally Posted by prj71
That's just it. As I mentioned before fly fishing is my other hobby (I guided for 10 years) and once you get past the $500 price point for a fly rod it's nothing but diminishing returns. It's more of status thing or following the popular crowd on the brand name fly rods. So many folks think the $1000 fly rod is better than the $300-$500 rod.
By the definition of diminishing returns, the $1000 rod is, in fact, better than the $300 rod.
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Gawd, that's ugly.

EDIT: That's tie-dye-print-bike-jersey ugly.
Primal doesn't have anything tie-dyed any longer. They do have something called "Lava Lamp"
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Primal doesn't have anything tie-dyed any longer. They do have something called "Lava Lamp"
they should've called it "Slick Snot Rocket" print.
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Originally Posted by prj71
That's a good question that I'm not able to answer. I have some of the $150 Primal jerseys that I purchased on sale for half or less than that amount. To me they felt just as good as some of the more expensive jerseys.

As with a lot of products we buy its 10% thought and 90% marketing. That's why some folks have $200 jersey's hanging in their closet!!! I could afford to buy one if I wanted, but the pragmatic side of me says "no way you are paying $150-$200 for a shirt!!!"
A comparison:

In dress shirts $150-200 isn't unusual and in fact that's only a bit above the price range where shirts begin to last and be worth wearing in more formal occasions. In natural fabrics the price is more in the fabric but quality of construction brings up the price as well (eg. yoke construction).

In higher quality jerseys you get better patterning and construction, but if you're not looking out for those you might not notice.

It's sorta like ironing. If you have a "no ironing needed" -shirt and just wear it out of the machine you might not notice how much better an ironed shirt feels and how huge the contrast in looks is vs someone who took the time to iron said shirt. You may need to be looking for the differences but when you do, you should notice. Goes in all clothing really.
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Originally Posted by Sy Reene
Primal doesn't have anything tie-dyed any longer.
You didn't look far enough (I apologize in advance)



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tie dye, woah man. Keep the 41 weird amirite???
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Originally Posted by TMonk
tie dye, woah man. Keep the 41 weird amirite???
No. I am not advocating for those jerseys. For anyone. Ever.

That said, if those are your thing, let your freak flag fly, man.
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Originally Posted by Eric F
During my non-cycling years, my main hobby was music (guitar, bass, and recording). Music folks spend a whole lot of money on diminishing returns.
Yup. I get that. I play guitar as well.
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I did another Gravel race this past weekend. By Golly I saw some Rapha an Le Col gear!!
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I did another Gravel race this past weekend. By Golly I saw some Rapha an Le Col gear!!
Were the Rapha riders band-iting the race?
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someone else noticed that too
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Originally Posted by razorjack
someone else noticed that too
Can you save us some time and point to the part of the video where they complain about tasteless fonts?

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