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thunder 01-11-06 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by classic1
He tried to flog me his Colnago at the Sun Tour a year or two ago. He looks at me and grunts 'how tall are you?' LOL. He might have known my face as I spent a couple of hours with him the day he won the Aussie Road title. Thing is, the thing would have fit me as I ride 56 high, 57.5 long, but I know how rough he is with bikes. The bike was a bit knocked around.

how much do those guys want for their steeds classic1. I only put out 25 watts :D so it would not matter to me, as long as they were comfy and some nice Italian shifting :)

All the Euros sell their bikes?

Cookie had his new Ridley, and Wilson was still on his Lapierre at crits. Ahh, think I mentioned that. :D

ed073 01-11-06 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by thunder
thanks Ed. nice to know. Great effort to come back. Up there with Sunderland, Museeuw and Pantani.

This is his year. If he is to put a stamp on his career it is now or never. At the moment his national title and a tour of Med/tour de l'Avenir will go down as his biggest wins.
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I reckon his CORESTATES US Pro champs was his biggest win.....was (maybe still is?) the biggest payday in one-day cycling.

If he was a seppo, he'd have donned the stars n stripes.

climbo 01-11-06 09:29 PM


Originally Posted by classic1
I spent a couple of hours with him the day he won the Aussie Road title.

you must have been impressed with his quads - or he yours. :eek:

thunder 01-11-06 09:33 PM

forgot about that USPros win. Yep, would be the biggest win. He went close in the San Fransisco GP too I think. Pity Klier got him at Wevelgem. But Klier is a monster, next Wesemann, will break through and probably win both Roubaix and Flanders.

next gen. Boonen Gilbert Cooke Hushovd Klier Flecha Ballan Bennati Davis Bernucci

classic1 01-11-06 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by thunder
how much do those guys want for their steeds classic1. I only put out 25 watts :D so it would not matter to me, as long as they were comfy and some nice Italian shifting :)

All the Euros sell their bikes?

$6500 for a very used Naviagtors C50 (C40, can't remember) Colnago with Record and Zero gravity brakes. The bloke that brought it was from down my way. It broke a few months later! :(

To be fair, it wasn't broken when it was sold, Vogels was racing on it. Approach any frames at the Sun Tour with extreme caution!

classic1 01-11-06 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by climbo
you must have been impressed with his quads - or he yours. :eek:


It wasn't out the road :D . After the race, climbo, after the race.

thunder 01-11-06 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by classic1
$6500 for a very used Naviagtors C50 (C40, can't remember) Colnago with Record and Zero gravity brakes. The bloke that brought it was from down my way. It broke a few months later! :(

To be fair, it wasn't broken when it was sold, Vogels was racing on it. Approach any frames at the Sun Tour with extreme caution!

That is a ridiculous price, I think a Petacchi Dogma went for about retail price on Ebay, it was for charity. But for a regular pro who does not have any cache to sell, 6,500 is alot. What, that would be about 11 retail new? Best idea is to have a holiday in the states and buy the bike there and come back here, with a free holiday and still about 1 grand in the pocket after costs of holiday.

Or support the LBS and local industry. But buying from Henk, is good to supports him, and his recovery. :)

ed073 01-11-06 09:41 PM

tristan Hoffman's 853 TVM Gazelle could've been yours in 1995 for about $2200....brand new. Done about 1200km.

Nicolai Bo Larsen was offloading his Jack & Jones Peugeot for about $3000, when the Dura-Ace wheels were still prototypes and thus uber-cool...

heaps of others. Sun Tour is at a good time of year....pros would rather sell than lug back to Europe.

classic1 01-11-06 09:44 PM

A C50 frame was going for about $6500 at the time, as the aus dollar was worth jack sheissen.

climbo 01-11-06 09:50 PM


Originally Posted by classic1
It wasn't out the road :D . After the race, climbo, after the race.

yes - in fact it was after the race.

I guess my poor attempt at gay humour didn't quite come across on the internet like it did in my head at the time.

Brian 01-11-06 09:52 PM

The Aussie dollar still isn't worth that much. I have a feeling that my son that chooses to stay here when we move will be getting a lot of packages from us.

classic1 01-11-06 09:57 PM


Originally Posted by climbo
yes - in fact it was after the race.

I guess my poor attempt at gay humour didn't quite come across on the internet like it did in my head at the time.

Im just an innocent climbo. I wouldn't have any part in anything like that.

Besides, he had Stuey with him, plus he wouldn't let me go on top wearing his national champs jersey, so I said no.

thunder 01-11-06 10:02 PM


Originally Posted by ed073
tristan Hoffman's 853 TVM Gazelle could've been yours in 1995 for about $2200....brand new. Done about 1200km.

Nicolai Bo Larsen was offloading his Jack & Jones Peugeot for about $3000, when the Dura-Ace wheels were still prototypes and thus uber-cool...

heaps of others. Sun Tour is at a good time of year....pros would rather sell than lug back to Europe.

Ebay charity bikes
Petacchi's Pinarello Dogma went for Euro4,610 / US$5,598 / Aus$7,409
Petacchi's came with Cosmic Carbons. I assume that the retail price would be around $12,000 Aus, from a domestic LBS.
Better value than Henks Colnago, in the sense that the value should be maintained.
What is the better cred on Hell Ride. Riding Petacchi's Dogma or winning Hell Ride :D or is it strictly poseur value :) because I could have bought the Dogma but would get shunted out the back once it hits Oliver's hill. Hahahah, no respect to the bike.

Heras' Vuelta winning bike of 2005 :D went for Euro24,600 / US$29,876 / Aus$39,537
Manolo Saiz ended up buying the bike, probably knowing the drug positive was in the works and therefore the buyer would end up wanting a refund :D

climbo 01-11-06 10:03 PM


Originally Posted by classic1
Im just an innocent climbo. I wouldn't have any part in anything like that.

Besides, he had Stuey with him, plus he wouldn't let me go on top wearing his national champs jersey, so I said no.

LOL

thunder 01-11-06 10:08 PM

Has anyone ridden against Kristjan Snorrason? How strong was he?

ed073 01-11-06 10:47 PM


Originally Posted by thunder
Has anyone ridden against Kristjan Snorrason? How strong was he?


Very.

Shame the Noble House pro team fell through a la Le Groupement.....could've been his ticket.

thunder 01-11-06 11:01 PM


Originally Posted by ed073
Very.

Shame the Noble House pro team fell through a la Le Groupement.....could've been his ticket.

a good mate of mine rode with him when he was also a triathlete. They were both triathletes at that time, and he thought he was not as strong as him. My mate also represented Australia in triathlon in the age group amateurs, and was one of the better triathlete bike riders.

ed073 01-11-06 11:03 PM


Originally Posted by thunder
a good mate of mine rode with him when he was also a triathlete. They were both triathletes at that time, and he thought he was not as strong as him. My mate also represented Australia in triathlon in the age group amateurs, and was one of the better triathlete bike riders.


I'd liken him most to Tommy Nankervis....powerful, excellent sprint.

climbo 01-11-06 11:03 PM

you guys out to get a train home soon?

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117...-13762,00.html

thunder 01-11-06 11:07 PM


Originally Posted by ed073
I'd liken him most to Tommy Nankervis....powerful, excellent sprint.

he beat Cookie in the Sorrento race. Not a slow coach.

crank'n 01-11-06 11:14 PM


Originally Posted by climbo
you guys out to get a train home soon?

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117...-13762,00.html

you guys get all the fun! Send her over here.

ed073 01-11-06 11:19 PM


Originally Posted by thunder
he beat Cookie in the Sorrento race. Not a slow coach.


Exactly. Shame that race died as soon as it started......good parcours with two laps of Arthurs Seat.

this is his website...

http://www.fullgaspromotions.com.au

ed073 01-12-06 12:09 AM

Just looking at the Quickstep 06 team launch photos.....is big Tom going for Sean Yates's title of "highest shorts int he bunch"??

They're certainly up around the "business".....

classic1 01-12-06 12:16 AM

alanbikehouston is banging on about the Chinese again.

I replyed to his last post (#24). :D

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=165775

ed073 01-12-06 12:23 AM


Originally Posted by classic1
alanbikehouston is banging on about the Chinese again.

I replyed to his last post (#24). :D

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=165775


Pisser.....


Should've offered him a couple of tickets to the Great Leader's private box for the Olympic Games opening ceremony.

thunder 01-12-06 12:30 AM

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Unibet aka TeamELVES.com

ed073 01-12-06 12:34 AM

Who's that big ox on the front directing traffic??

I can see Belgian rings on the arms....Gert Omloop?


Shorts look like Phonak that've been through the wash about 100 times...

classic1 01-12-06 12:37 AM

Vandenbrouke is the second rider from the right.

thunder 01-12-06 12:37 AM


Originally Posted by ed073
Who's that big ox on the front directing traffic??

I can see Belgian rings on the arms....Gert Omloop?


Shorts look like Phonak that've been through the wash about 100 times...

if for some reason it is so cold and they are wearing longs at Flanders, in those knicks Franky boy will look more like a male ballerina dancing on the Muur, cross with an Elf :D . If it is wet though, they will be in the saddle right Ed? too slippery...

ed073 01-12-06 12:39 AM


Originally Posted by classic1
Vandenbrouke is the second rider from the right.

2 months, 25 days until this contract is cancelled.....


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