Chain cleaning
#26
Originally Posted by 55/Rad
Screw the pins. Here's what you need. Either the SRAM:

Or the Wipperman:


Or the Wipperman:

Removing and reinserting pins if not replaced is not conducive to long term chain reliability. I wouldn't do it. I ride KMC chains for my 10 sd Campy rig with a KMC missing link that looks like what Rad posted above. Believe the wise man Sheldon Brown...but certainly others if not him endorse infrequent removal of the chain. In engineering parlance this is referred to as "little value added". I only on rare occurrence remove mine...generally when doing other bigger PM items on my bike like removing the rear cassette and/or freehub etc. A good wiping of the chain with mineral spirits on the bike and fresh WL keeps my driveline very clean...don't see a need to remove the chain.
Lots of ways to skin that cat.
George
#27
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With a chain cleaner, spray bottle, and air compressor, I can make my entire drive train completely sterile and bone dry, in about 5 minutes - without removing anything. I use paint thinner in the chain cleaner & spray bottle, and do this once a week (125-150 miles).
Last edited by LA_Rider; 12-10-05 at 11:06 AM.
#28
S.African in SanFran
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I'm about to place an order with Performance for some other things - things looks like a good addition too.
Any idea if these links can be used with a Campagnolo Record C10 chain (or, alternatively whether that is easily removeable itself?)
Does adding such a link reduce the life of sprockets/chainwheels, and can it accidentally disengage?
Any idea if these links can be used with a Campagnolo Record C10 chain (or, alternatively whether that is easily removeable itself?)
Does adding such a link reduce the life of sprockets/chainwheels, and can it accidentally disengage?
#29
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Originally Posted by The_Guru
Does adding such a link reduce the life of sprockets/chainwheels, and can it accidentally disengage?
55/Rad
Last edited by 55/Rad; 12-10-05 at 03:08 PM.
#30
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As far as on-bike cleaning, I can say that White Lightning and / or an on-bike chain cleaning tool were insufficient to really clean the chain. A lot of gunk remained inside the links and them migrated to the cassette and back on to the chain once I relubed.
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#31
Originally Posted by SpongeDad
As far as on-bike cleaning, I can say that White Lightning and / or an on-bike chain cleaning tool were insufficient to really clean the chain. A lot of gunk remained inside the links and them migrated to the cassette and back on to the chain once I relubed.
Personal preference more than discernible benefit except for time lost to remove a chain and clean it.
George
Last edited by biker7; 12-10-05 at 03:06 PM.
#32
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the net result would be virtually no difference in driveline wear between either technique. I go big miles with keeping the chain on my bikes and BTW my rear cassettes stay very clean and front chain rings stay relatively clean as well.
I did my 40 mile ride this morning and rode up Torrey Pines. It was a beautiful morning and I feel great this afternoon! I'm enjoying a albacore tuna sandwich on marbled rye toast with sharp cheddar and a glass of water for lunch. Life is good!
#33
Orbea Crayola Rider
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I got a "Missing Link" from KMC at a not so LBS this afternoon. My LBS doesn't sell just the links, so I went to the out of the way store that is about as big as my computer monitor, and they had what I was looking for.
mscycler
mscycler
#34
Originally Posted by mscycler
I got a "Missing Link" from KMC at a not so LBS this afternoon. My LBS doesn't sell just the links, so I went to the out of the way store that is about as big as my computer monitor, and they had what I was looking for.
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George
#35
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Originally Posted by biker7
You can find the missing link on line...what I did..bought a few of them. I had great luck with my KMC X10 chain so bought another....a very nice chain for the money. For a 10s campy set up you need the 6.2mm missing link which is different then the 9 speed missing link width. KMC recommends only using the missing link once...but many report to use them repeatedly. Chain failures can be catastrophic. I like the strength of KMC chains and believe the missing link is a very reliable connection which makes servicing the chain pretty simple. I use the links 2X's and then replace.
George
George
mscycler
#36
Originally Posted by mscycler
Was/is your Missing Link "loose". I mean, I can undo mine with one hand, actually two fingers w/o much trying. Is is supposed to be tighter than it is???
mscycler
mscycler
HTH,
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