The best frame pump
12-13-05 | 08:35 PM
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I have a Topeak Master Blaster Road. It fits in the frame like a Zephal frame pump but it pumps significantly easier and faster as well.
I've been looking all over to get some more but I can't find them.
I've been looking all over to get some more but I can't find them.
12-13-05 | 11:12 PM
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Have any of you tried the Shock pumps? https://www.topeak.com/products/pump_shock_lead.html
12-13-05 | 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by mossi
Have any of you tried the Shock pumps? https://www.topeak.com/products/pump_shock_lead.html
The other one might be okay.
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12-14-05 | 05:24 AM
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The laws of physics can't be violated no matter who makes the pump.
It comes down to pressure and volume.
To put 100psi of pressure in a tire, you need a skinny pump. If your pump has a 1/2 sq.in. section, you have to push the handle with 50 pounds of force to get to 100psi. That's one of the reasons why a Road Morph is so highly recommended. It lets a smaller person push downward on the pump so they don't have to rely on brute muscle power.
A longer stroke will allow you to get more volume with every stroke so a long skinny pump is going to be advised if you want to pump up a road tire quickly and easily.
For pumping up mountain bike tires I like to use a pump that has a fatter section so that I don't have to pump so many times to get the greater volume of air that's required for fatter tires. A pump with a 1" section is fine because you don't pump a mountain bike tire up to 100 psi.
Pumps that don't have a hose pose an additional risk. If you don't stabilize the valve stem as you pump, it tends to wiggle back and forth repeatedly and can tear your brand new replacement inner tube at the stem base during the pumping process. That will cause most cyclists to utter an alternate word for "Oh pshaw!".
It comes down to pressure and volume.
To put 100psi of pressure in a tire, you need a skinny pump. If your pump has a 1/2 sq.in. section, you have to push the handle with 50 pounds of force to get to 100psi. That's one of the reasons why a Road Morph is so highly recommended. It lets a smaller person push downward on the pump so they don't have to rely on brute muscle power.
A longer stroke will allow you to get more volume with every stroke so a long skinny pump is going to be advised if you want to pump up a road tire quickly and easily.
For pumping up mountain bike tires I like to use a pump that has a fatter section so that I don't have to pump so many times to get the greater volume of air that's required for fatter tires. A pump with a 1" section is fine because you don't pump a mountain bike tire up to 100 psi.
Pumps that don't have a hose pose an additional risk. If you don't stabilize the valve stem as you pump, it tends to wiggle back and forth repeatedly and can tear your brand new replacement inner tube at the stem base during the pumping process. That will cause most cyclists to utter an alternate word for "Oh pshaw!".
12-14-05 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by BayAreaRider
Topeak Road Morph.
My crank bros mini ruined no less than three tube valves. It has since been relegated to my 3yr old's toy portfolio.
Here's the TRM in action:
My crank bros mini ruined no less than three tube valves. It has since been relegated to my 3yr old's toy portfolio.
Here's the TRM in action:
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12-14-05 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by cyccommute
The pocket shock (without the gauge) is pretty useless. No gauge so you don't know how much air you are putting in and it's really tiny so you end up pumping for a loooooooong time The other one might be okay.
The other one might be okay.
: If you are looking for a shock pump get a dedicated one. I got a pump from Specialized that was supposed to be for the shock and the wheels but it does neither well. After spending an hour trying to fix a flat on the trail about a mile from my car (I was GOING to fix it, dammit!), I flung it into the woods to be found by a future archeologist and went back to carrying a shock pump and a frame pump.
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Dreamin' of Bemidji Down the Mississippi (in part)
Plan Epsilon Around Lake Michigan in the era of Covid
Gold Fever Three days of dirt in Colorado
Pokin' around the Poconos A cold ride around Lake Erie
Dinosaurs in Colorado A mountain bike guide to the Purgatory Canyon dinosaur trackway
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Picking the Scablands. Washington and Oregon, 2005. Pie and spiders on the Columbia River!
12-14-05 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by BayAreaRider
Topeak Road Morph.
My crank bros mini ruined no less than three tube valves. It has since been relegated to my 3yr old's toy portfolio.
Here's the TRM in action:
My crank bros mini ruined no less than three tube valves. It has since been relegated to my 3yr old's toy portfolio.
Here's the TRM in action:
12-14-05 | 07:01 PM
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My vote goes for the Zefal HPX (apparently they have some kind of new design out, according to the rivendell online catalogue that does both valves w/o flipping the widget). The only caveat that I can see is with the funny curving nature of joints on some carbon fiber bikes would make the spring loaded nature of it's mounting system rather useless.
12-14-05 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by fogrider
my vote is for the blackburn road frame fit pump. I have the first gerneration and they have since redesigned it look of it but I believe the guts are still the same. it gets me to 100+ psi quickly and it looks as clean as a pump can look on a frame.
