Who makes a steel frame at less than 4 lbs?

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12-20-05 | 07:45 PM

mooncake

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I saw that Cervelo made a Super Prodigy steel frame that was like 2.5 lbs(!) but they discontinued it.

Any decent quality lightweight steel frames out there?

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12-20-05 | 07:46 PM

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I saw that Cinelli made a Super Prodigy steel frame that was like 2.5 lbs(!) but they discontinued it. Any decent quality steel frames?

Cinelli? Making Super Prodigy's?

That has to be some sort of copyright violation...

12-20-05 | 07:50 PM

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I know I saw, on CyclingNews.com, a couple months ago about a 1000gram steel frame made out of reynolds tubing. Light enough?

12-20-05 | 07:53 PM

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I know I saw, on CyclingNews.com, a couple months ago about a 1000gram steel frame made out of reynolds tubing. Light enough?

Oh, yeah. That 953 stainless steel piece built by Indie Fabrique?

I would love to have one, but I would probably make it a single speed.

12-20-05 | 07:54 PM

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Oh, yeah. That 953 stainless steel piece built by Indie Fabrique?

I would love to have one, but I would probably make it a single speed.

Hmm...I'm going to go search that name because it's been bugging me not knowing the name of it! Thats for the head start!

12-20-05 | 07:58 PM

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Waterford sells stainless bikes that I believe are VERY light.

12-20-05 | 07:59 PM

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Hmm...I'm going to go search that name because it's been bugging me not knowing the name of it! Thats for the head start!

Try "Independent Fabrication" instead.

I was just screwin' with the name a bit, because I like things that sound French. Like my name(s).

12-20-05 | 08:02 PM

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Waterford. True Temper OX tubing.

12-20-05 | 08:04 PM

Warblade

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Originally Posted by 56/12 and 22/28

Try "Independent Fabrication" instead.

I was just screwin' with the name a bit, because I like things that sound French. Like my name(s).

Je suis italien et francais.

12-20-05 | 08:09 PM

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my 1989 Paramount OS is under 4lbs, there are tons of steel frames below 4lbs

12-20-05 | 08:11 PM

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Here's couple of steel roadies that'd fit your bill:

https://www.serotta.com/pages/fierte_steel.html

https://www.serotta.com/pages/cda.html

12-20-05 | 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 56/12 and 22/28

Cinelli? Making Super Prodigy's?

That has to be some sort of copyright violation...

I'm sure he means Cervelo

12-20-05 | 08:29 PM

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Salsa is about to release one made of S3 steel called Primero. 3.1 lbs

https://www.salsacycles.com/06_frames_preview.html

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12-20-05 | 08:39 PM

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Scarfacci, Colnago, Orbea, Waterford, Heron, Kogswell, Sano, Torelli, Mondonico, De Rosa, etc. Big list. (See one of Sincity's threads on steel or red or orange bikes)

Look for True Temper S3 or OX, Reynolds 853, Columbus Spirit for frames under 3lb.

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12-20-05 | 09:09 PM

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My LeMond Zurich 853 is pretty light for steel. I have never weighed just the frame though, but I also have a steel Merckx that weighs way more.

12-20-05 | 09:12 PM

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Lemond Sarthe. 3.3lbs in 57cm. According to Lemond Customer Service. True Temper OX.......

12-20-05 | 09:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Grasschopper

Salsa is about to release one made of S3 steel called Primero. 3.1 lbs

https://www.salsacycles.com/06_frames_preview.html

It's a girls frame, dude. Sizes only run from 49cm to 56cm...

12-20-05 | 09:47 PM

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I think I'm going to need some assistance 56/12 and 22/28 because I can't find it...

12-20-05 | 09:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mooncake

I saw that Cervelo made a Super Prodigy steel frame that was like 2.5 lbs(!) but they discontinued it. ?

they ain't that light

before I bought mine I emailed Cervelo and someone told me a 58cm frame was "about 3lbs"

mine is 1670g (3.67lbs)

12-20-05 | 09:52 PM

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It's not too hard to get under 4lbs, which is ~1816g.
Two of my old (late '80s), lugged 531c frames are 1860g (58cm and 56cm)

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12-20-05 | 09:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mooncake

It's a girls frame, dude. Sizes only run from 49cm to 56cm...

Read the information in the link over again. Slowly. It's a compact frame. It says the 49cm is EQUIVALENT TO A 56cm in their other frame styles.

From the site:
Frame weight: 3.1 lbs 49cm
Fork weight: .88 lbs (uncut)
Color: Paprika Red

Frame: True Temper S3 Tubeset
Fork: Alpha Q CS20 Full Carbon Fork w/ Carbon Steerer
Headset: Standard 1-1/8"
Bottom Bracket: 68mm; English Thread
Front Derailleur: 28.6mm; Clamp Style, Bottom Pull
Seatpost: 27.2mm
Seat Collar: 28.6mm Salsa Lip-Lock Included
Rear Wheel: 130mm Spacing
Sizes: 43, 45, 47, 49, 51, 53cm (49cm = Standard 56cm)
Color: Paprika Red
Tire Clearance: Fits up to a 700c x 25mm
Includes: Salsa Lip-Lock Seat Collar

Sizing Note: The Primero measures about 7cm
smaller than the Campeon. If you ride a 56cm
Campeon, you most likely ride a 49cm Primero.

12-20-05 | 11:11 PM

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My Ultrafoco Carbon is under 4 pounds. The Spirit Carbon replaces it in Orbea's lineup nowadays. Not the stiffest, not a noodle. Rides really well.

I'm really interested in the TT S3 stuff. I was hoping that someone here would get one and pummel it for a year. A detailed review is required, of course.