Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Road Cycling
Reload this Page >

For all u racers

Search
Notices
Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

For all u racers

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-22-06, 11:37 AM
  #26  
DocRay
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Mentioned: Post(s)
Tagged: Thread(s)
Quoted: Post(s)
I really hate people who use "u" instead of "you". Burn a calorie on the two extra keystrokes.
 
Old 03-22-06, 11:42 AM
  #27  
more ape than man
 
timmhaan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: nyc
Posts: 8,091
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 1 Post
what's up with your dad! that advice is just dead wrong. 16 too old to start training seriously?? does he know anything about the sport? i don't mean to sound harsh, but that's just about the worst advice i've heard in a long time. most riders don't even hit their stride until late 20's and early 30's and many race into their 40's and 50's. you basically could have over 40 years of racing in you if you're healthy as an adult. not enough time?! bull****.
timmhaan is offline  
Old 03-22-06, 11:48 AM
  #28  
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 33
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I started when I was 17 and I'm turning 19 in a few months. At such a young age, we're lucky to be able to become so fit so quickly. Don't listen to those people who told you 16 was too late. Only a year after I started I was racing Cat 1 and finishing well. Take advantage of your fitness now!
I plug in about 400-600km (20-30 hours) weekly and throw in the odd epic 200km ride. Just came back from a stage race and hit up 930km in 7 days. Aiming to race hard and race to win this year.
rubber_souls is offline  
Old 03-22-06, 12:03 PM
  #29  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Behind enemy lines
Posts: 311

Bikes: Kestrel Talon, Trek 1200, Specialized Rockhopper FSR, Specialized Enduro Expert

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Too old? Are you kidding me? Man... I wish I had started training at 16.
WD_40 is offline  
Old 03-22-06, 12:09 PM
  #30  
Used to be a climber..
 
GuitarWizard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Santa Clarita, CA
Posts: 6,849

Bikes: 2016 Ridley Fenix SL, 2020 Trek Emonda ALR (rim brake)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times in 3 Posts
Originally Posted by WD_40
Too old? Are you kidding me? Man... I wish I had started training at 16.
x2

I had a Trek 930 mountain bike then (which I liked a lot), and would borrow my neighbors road bike quite a bit and rode that for a few years, but didn't get my first road bike until I was almost 19. Rode quite a bit back then, but nothing really structured in regards to a training program, and if I only knew then what I know now about nutrition and hydration......and training.

Dammit.
GuitarWizard is offline  
Old 03-22-06, 12:58 PM
  #31  
Racing iS my Training
 
Pizza Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 1,263

Bikes: 07 Bianchi San Jose, 08 Tarmac SL2, 05 Cervelo P3

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Boy, I wish I had started at 16, or even at 26, but I just started last summer at 35 1/2. I hope to make it to Cat 1 before I reach my peak.
Pizza Man is offline  
Old 03-22-06, 02:07 PM
  #32  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Athens, Ohio
Posts: 5,104

Bikes: Custom Custom Custom

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Train hard, race hard, and most importantly, rest hard. Rest days are just as important as training and race days because you need your body to recover. Burn outs are horrible and will take a few weeks to get back into the swing of things.

And the most important advice I have come along is you won't get faster unless you ride with faster/stronger riders.

I started racing last year doing collegiate races. I've done two Cat 5 races, taking 2nd in one of them. Put my petition to upgrade today since I just found out that my collegiate races count toward Cat 5 -> Cat 4 upgrade.
nitropowered is offline  
Old 03-22-06, 02:09 PM
  #33  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 7,848
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
I was 13 when I started racing... I was cat 1 when I was 20/21 (before of that i was junior so I wasnt allowed to run with adults) I went to my 1st Junior panamerican when i was 17, and a few more adult panams. Retired when I was 24 because I had to start working and university. So no time for bike no more.

16 is a good age, never but NEVER NEVER leave the college behind OK? if u have to decide between college and the bike... go for the college OK? Have fun kiddo

ultraman6970 is offline  
Old 03-22-06, 03:12 PM
  #34  
Senior Member
 
rufvelo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 4,201
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by ultraman6970
I was 13 when I started racing... I was cat 1 when I was 20/21 (before of that i was junior so I wasnt allowed to run with adults) I went to my 1st Junior panamerican when i was 17, and a few more adult panams. Retired when I was 24 because I had to start working and university. So no time for bike no more.

16 is a good age, never but NEVER NEVER leave the college behind OK? if u have to decide between college and the bike... go for the college OK? Have fun kiddo

Very good advice!

(your story is very similar to mine )
rufvelo is offline  
Old 03-22-06, 03:29 PM
  #35  
Senior Member
 
rufvelo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 4,201
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Andrei
...It's just that my friend and dad say im a little too old to start serious training now and be any good(I'm 16 and a half). And that really upsets me...
Very important to understand what Dad really means by 'be any good', so it may be the best advice you've got. Are you thinking of a real pro career? Do you understand what it takes to be a pro and actually make a living from competitive cycling, not just getting a free bike or a jersey/goodies and some maintenance help from some the local bike shop? Do you understand that as a pro you may have to show up for a race even sick, in the worst of weather and do some mileage before abandoning? Very different from tucking in real cozy when you're a bit 'under the weather'. Maybe father knows best - he'd certainly know you better than all of us.

While cycling is not like tennis or violin, 16 may be too old if you've been laying on the couch all these years. If you haven't been actively developing yourself physically with some running etc. , you've already wasted some very good years of development especially in comparison with kids starting at 12. This is your competition, not someone who's a 'pretty good biker' at 45! If you have been active, then 16 is a good age to get into competitive cycling and build endurance and speed so you'll toughen up well by 20. Again I'm not talking about sprinting 200m, or 40K crits, but closer to 150-250k races. As a pro, you'll probably need to live, train overseas and sacrifice something, often family, other loved ones and education. Sheryl Crow may not travel to Europe to support you

So maybe Dad isn't right, or completely wrong for that matter, but 'being good' usually means good enough to support yourself doing it, whatever 'it' is. So clarify with Dad, before allowing anyone and everyone on some internet forum to trash him/his advice. And do keep that college degree firmly in mind.
rufvelo is offline  
Old 03-22-06, 03:36 PM
  #36  
crankaholic
Thread Starter
 
Andrei's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 42

Bikes: too many

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanks alot guys! Very helpful! As for all of you blaming my dad for bad advice - he never said that I'm too old and should just forget it and study more, he said that 16 might be a little too old (he was probably comparing cycling to running) and I will have to train super hard to be good at it. Now I have to find a team and a good coach to help me train (btw, i also do group non-competitive rides about twice a week with some really experienced riders that would be glad to help me). Like I said, thank you for all the support!
Andrei is offline  
Old 03-22-06, 03:47 PM
  #37  
crankaholic
Thread Starter
 
Andrei's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 42

Bikes: too many

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by rufvelo
Very important to understand what Dad really means by 'be any good', so it may be the best advice you've got. Are you thinking of a real pro career? Do you understand what it takes to be a pro and actually make a living from competitive cycling, not just getting a free bike or a jersey/goodies and some maintenance help from some the local bike shop? Do you understand that as a pro you may have to show up for a race even sick, in the worst of weather and do some mileage before abandoning? Very different from tucking in real cozy when you're a bit 'under the weather'. Maybe father knows best - he'd certainly know you better than all of us.

While cycling is not like tennis or violin, 16 may be too old if you've been laying on the couch all these years. If you haven't been actively developing yourself physically with some running etc. , you've already wasted some very good years of development especially in comparison with kids starting at 12. This is your competition, not someone who's a 'pretty good biker' at 45! If you have been active, then 16 is a good age to get into competitive cycling and build endurance and speed so you'll toughen up well by 20. Again I'm not talking about sprinting 200m, or 40K crits, but closer to 150-250k races. As a pro, you'll probably need to live, train overseas and sacrifice something, often family, other loved ones and education. Sheryl Crow may not travel to Europe to support you

So maybe Dad isn't right, or completely wrong for that matter, but 'being good' usually means good enough to support yourself doing it, whatever 'it' is. So clarify with Dad, before allowing anyone and everyone on some internet forum to trash him/his advice. And do keep that college degree firmly in mind.



I haven't really considered becoming a pro just because it will take up too much of my school time, as for being fit - I have been on a bike as far as I can remember, about a year ago I used to do long rides (300k) on a cheap mountain bike as a camping trip, i also run every once in a while (but ride way, way more often), I ride mountain bike at least once a week, do some trials once in a while, go to gym once or twice a week if weather is bad for riding - so I wouldn't call myself a lazy fat@$$. BTW, I can climb faster and longer then some (maybe even most) of the guys in the group that I ride with, but thats probably 'cause they are old
Andrei is offline  
Old 03-22-06, 04:59 PM
  #38  
a blend of wit and charm
 
Moochers_Dad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Chicago
Posts: 885

Bikes: Serotta Fierte and a 1989 Centurian Prestige (plus, various others)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
You've been riding your bike already so it's not like you can really say 16 is your starting age. Maybe it's the age you decide to train for racing, and race. But realistically, you've already got plenty of miles in your legs.

I think your dad is just trying to get out of buying you a really nice bike (provided you are not going to buy your own). Since he's now been busted, DEMAND something really expensive.
__________________

Last edited by Moochers_Dad; 03-22-06 at 05:08 PM.
Moochers_Dad is offline  
Old 03-22-06, 05:04 PM
  #39  
Used to be a climber..
 
GuitarWizard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Santa Clarita, CA
Posts: 6,849

Bikes: 2016 Ridley Fenix SL, 2020 Trek Emonda ALR (rim brake)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times in 3 Posts
Originally Posted by Andrei
I haven't really considered becoming a pro just because it will take up too much of my school time, as for being fit - I have been on a bike as far as I can remember, about a year ago I used to do long rides (300k) on a cheap mountain bike as a camping trip, i also run every once in a while (but ride way, way more often), I ride mountain bike at least once a week, do some trials once in a while, go to gym once or twice a week if weather is bad for riding - so I wouldn't call myself a lazy fat@$$. BTW, I can climb faster and longer then some (maybe even most) of the guys in the group that I ride with, but thats probably 'cause they are old
Get coaching, now. If you ride with a decent group of riders and can already outclimb even half of them (age has nothing to do with it.....there are a LOT of "fast old men" around), you may have some potential.

Keep us posted.
GuitarWizard is offline  
Old 03-22-06, 05:10 PM
  #40  
Elitist Jackass
 
Smoothie104's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Georgia
Posts: 3,262

Bikes: Cannondale 2.8, Specialized S-works E5 road, GT Talera

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Do your friend and Father race Bicycles?

Why take advice on racing from someone who knows nothing about it?
Smoothie104 is offline  
Old 03-22-06, 05:12 PM
  #41  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Southwest TN
Posts: 187

Bikes: Specialized Tarmac S-Works

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by EventServices
16 is probably the best age to start.

Tom Danielson is 28, and he's not even reached his prime.

Tell your dad that this sport isn't like the others. You don't have to start at the age of 5 like you do in tennis.
Unlike football or basketball, success in bike racing isn’t determined by one’s physical size.
Unlike tennis and golf, cycling requires no hand-eye coordination.
Unlike running, it’s easy on the bones.
Unlike skiing, cycling doesn’t require nearly as much balance.
While swimming can take you to the other end of the pool and back, cycling can begin at the end of your driveway and take you to the other side of the country.
Unlike soccer/baseball/football/basketball, bike racing has no bench to sit on. No coach is ever going to tell you that you’re not good enough, big enough, or fast enough to enter the competition.

Go now.
Well said. Thanks dude, truly inspiring. The reason I come to this forum is to find posts like yours.

I started training and racing last year, at the tender age of 42.
pecos is offline  
Old 03-22-06, 05:17 PM
  #42  
Easy like Sunday morning
 
white lobster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Santa Fe, NM
Posts: 296
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Tyler Hamilton didn't start racing until he was in college. 16 is nowhere near too young.
white lobster is offline  
Old 03-22-06, 05:23 PM
  #43  
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 41
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Andrei
...and I will have to train super hard to be good at it...
Hmm... seems like that's going to be true whether you start at 13 or 33.
Piuma is offline  
Old 03-22-06, 05:24 PM
  #44  
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 41
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by white lobster
Tyler Hamilton didn't start racing until he was in college. 16 is nowhere near too young.
Yeah but he's got good blood.
Piuma is offline  
Old 03-22-06, 05:47 PM
  #45  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 87
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I started racing at 28... and now I am 28. Honestly 16 is a drop in the hat if you are too old to train, and race I am death. I would imagine half the poeple in this forum are death compared. Train and race, if you have what it takes you'll make it otherwise you'll have to settle for Cat 2/1
cabinet2621 is offline  
Old 03-22-06, 05:57 PM
  #46  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Atl,Ga
Posts: 357

Bikes: Specalized Allez Elite and Vintage Vitus

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Hey i JUST started racing. Im 15 and a half. I have done 4 races this season so far. The most important thing for me was joining a team. This has been such an amazing advantage to have. Not only do you have somebody to train with you and coach you. You have rides and information to tons of races. You will get team discounts on expensive biking gear and maybe even free gear.
You are not too young. I believe that greg Lemond really started cycling in collage when he was kicked off the alpine skiing team. I started out wanting to race and had only done a few charity rides . Now I ride everyday of the week (one day of rest) race every other week and am having a great time. JOIN A TEAM
AtlAllez is offline  
Old 03-22-06, 06:01 PM
  #47  
Senior Member
 
Jake B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 229

Bikes: Trek 5200

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I started racing when I was 13(that was last year). I think that 16 is an great age to start racing. Like others have said, just look at Tom Danielson. By the way, if you want to see quicker improvements in your fitness, look for a good, knowledgable coach. I have been using a coach for going on 4 weeks now, and I can already see an improvement in my riding-no lie.

Hope this helps,
Jake
__________________
Jake B is offline  
Old 03-22-06, 06:56 PM
  #48  
Newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: East Bay
Posts: 4

Bikes: Fisher supercal, supergo roadie

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
What about Mike Jones, who was completely unfit at 20, let alone cycling, and is a top pro 4 or 5 years down the line.
Androssmazor is offline  
Old 03-22-06, 08:04 PM
  #49  
Pegger
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Posts: 171

Bikes: devinci chicane, 80's Fuji, 2006 Cannondale R1000, Cannondale Six13 Team Campy

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
im turning 17 in a couple of days, , and have done a couple races previous to this season, but this year ive joined with the bike shop im working for now, and i do around 70km on interval days, and closer to 90 - 100km on easy days, totaling just under about 500km a week. Im also working with my provincial cycling team, which is why im comfortable doing this training knowing im not over training because my coach is amazing.
james_robert is offline  
Old 03-22-06, 09:37 PM
  #50  
Bike jocks ar still jocks
 
Portlandonian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 263

Bikes: 1970 peugeot PX-10 fixie, 2002 Team Fuji road bike

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
https://www.thebeanteam.com/members/bio/8

Started at 22, from commuter to pro in 4/5 years.
Portlandonian is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.