What's the difference between a Fred and an OCP?
06-11-06, 08:42 AM
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specialised rockhopper jersey on a road bike with mtn spd.s, matching smartwool jerseys in 115 degree F heat on the tandem - I consider myself a Richard, but the evidence suggests I'm still a Dick
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Originally Posted by Serpico
ocp is lame, luckily people are talking about it less
ride what you want, how you want, wear what you want--but creating a bike clique on an internet forum is about as silly as it gets
ohh, and please start constant vanity threads
(the hallmark of OCP'dom)--really, we wanna know everytime you get a new seatpost from Nashbar or a jersey that matches your socks
ride what you want, how you want, wear what you want--but creating a bike clique on an internet forum is about as silly as it gets
ohh, and please start constant vanity threads
(the hallmark of OCP'dom)--really, we wanna know everytime you get a new seatpost from Nashbar or a jersey that matches your socksWould this be a good time to show you my new Jersey?
I really like the Black and think it goes with the Black Carbon scheme I have been keeping to.
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06-11-06, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ViperZ
Would this be a good time to show you my new Jersey? I really like the Black and think it goes with the scheme I have been keeping to.
I really like the Black and think it goes with the scheme I have been keeping to.I've pretty much stopped trying to explain and defend the original meaning and intent the of the term OCP. It's too frustrating with all the people who assume we're all a bunch of dorks with money who don't actually ride.
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Originally Posted by ViperZ
Would this be a good time to show you my new Jersey? I really like the Black and think it goes with the Black Carbon scheme I have been keeping to.
I really like the Black and think it goes with the Black Carbon scheme I have been keeping to.
) color choice of white. 
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Originally Posted by 55/Rad
Too funny.
I've pretty much stopped trying to explain and defend the original meaning and intent the of the term OCP. It's too frustrating with all the people who assume we're all a bunch of dorks with money who don't actually ride.
55/Rad
I've pretty much stopped trying to explain and defend the original meaning and intent the of the term OCP. It's too frustrating with all the people who assume we're all a bunch of dorks with money who don't actually ride.
55/Rad
No crime in that...
Originally Posted by botto
It's my favorite jersey, but I went with the more pragmatic (not to mention better looking ) color choice of white.
) color choice of white. Here is another one I have
I just ordered a set of Assos F1. 13 S2 Bibs, I can't wait to get them
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Originally Posted by ViperZ
White is nice Here is another one I have
Here is another one I havebut trust me, you don't start an 'i've got more assos than you thread' with me.
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Originally Posted by botto
nice!
but trust me, you don't start an 'i've got more assos than you thread' with me.
but trust me, you don't start an 'i've got more assos than you thread' with me.
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Originally Posted by botto
thought i made that obvious a long time ago 
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Great thread -- gave me my laff 'o' the day today! 
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Originally Posted by oujeep1
If you wear a helmet mirror or visor, or a camelback big enough to pack to a trip to everest, you are fred. MTB shoes on a road bike- fred. I believe a major difference is you can be an ocp and know that you are, and in fact be quite proud of it. but a fred, i believe, does not know he is one.
I ride the road and I have a helmet mirror, sometimes a CamelBak large enough for a trip to Mount Everest (sometimes even with a Carradice), helmet visor, and definitely SPDs as I prefer them.
The best thing about being my age is I don’t care what anybody thinks. If someone calls me a Fred for my style and habit, I find it amusing.
But if I ride alongside a 20-something in full kit, a bike way past his abilities, the latest gear because some bicycling magazine told him it has the must-have of the day, I have as much respect for him as I hope he has for me. If we get to talking it turns out we really have more in common than our differences. For certain we both enjoy riding.
So, I say to all those Freds, OCP’s, and those that hate Freds and OCP’s, happy cycling.
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Originally Posted by thomson
But if I ride alongside a 20-something in full kit, a bike way past his abilities, the latest gear because some bicycling magazine told him it has the must-have of the day, I have as much respect for him as I hope he has for me. If we get to talking it turns out we really have more in common than our differences. For certain we both enjoy riding.
So, I say to all those Freds, OCP’s, and those that hate Freds and OCP’s, happy cycling.
So, I say to all those Freds, OCP’s, and those that hate Freds and OCP’s, happy cycling.
Still it's fun to laugh at ourselves regardless what we are in this sport for, be it retro grouch to techno weenie, and everything in between.
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Originally Posted by Machka
Freds don't care how they look or whether their gear matches their bicycles or not ... they just want to ride!
OCP people (from my impressions) seem much more concerned about acquiring a jersey with the exact shade of blue to match the blue in their bicycles, and ensuring that their legs are freshly shaved and that they don't have a hint of helmet hair as they pose next to their bicycles.
OCP people (from my impressions) seem much more concerned about acquiring a jersey with the exact shade of blue to match the blue in their bicycles, and ensuring that their legs are freshly shaved and that they don't have a hint of helmet hair as they pose next to their bicycles.
This has sparked my interest because after two years, I've actually started riding with people.
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Originally Posted by dmitrivich
None of the above - you're a Davisite! 
Man, I love Davis. Congrats Lamar!
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Somebody with OCP wants to look good while riding. Why ride with no style? Looking like someone who shops at the Goodwill does not make you faster or more serious about your sport.
Look good, ride good. But don't be a snob, have fun.
1. Finish the following statement: “My bike is worth…”
a. More than I admit, even to close personal friends. And it’s worth much, much more than I admit to my significant other.
b. Its weight in gold.
c. Really, just gold? Well, I guess that’s how much mine was worth before I upgraded the wheelset.
2. You are riding along the pavement when a recumbent bicycle with a bright orange flag approaches from the other direction. What do you do?
a. Smile and wave. Hey, it’s great that we’re both on bikes, no matter what kind!
b. Nod nearly imperceptibly, so that others on real bikes will not notice.
c. Ignore this Philistine, and avoid eye contact at all costs. Cross to the other side of the street if necessary.
3. When was the last time you cried?
a. When someone stole my bike.
b. When someone scratched my bike.
c. When I was in the local bike shop and a pudgy guy with baggy MTB shorts and a BMX helmet came in with a Bianchi S9 Matta Ti/Carbon Record, asking the mechanic to put slime in the tires so it wouldn’t get flats so often.
4. How many bikes do you own?
a. 2
b. 3-5
c. Are you counting complete, rideable bikes? Or do I have to count all the frames? Also, do I have to count the vintage bikes I keep in case I ever decide to open a bike museum? How about the one that Eddy Merckx once touched?
Look good, ride good. But don't be a snob, have fun.
1. Finish the following statement: “My bike is worth…”
a. More than I admit, even to close personal friends. And it’s worth much, much more than I admit to my significant other.
b. Its weight in gold.
c. Really, just gold? Well, I guess that’s how much mine was worth before I upgraded the wheelset.
2. You are riding along the pavement when a recumbent bicycle with a bright orange flag approaches from the other direction. What do you do?
a. Smile and wave. Hey, it’s great that we’re both on bikes, no matter what kind!
b. Nod nearly imperceptibly, so that others on real bikes will not notice.
c. Ignore this Philistine, and avoid eye contact at all costs. Cross to the other side of the street if necessary.
3. When was the last time you cried?
a. When someone stole my bike.
b. When someone scratched my bike.
c. When I was in the local bike shop and a pudgy guy with baggy MTB shorts and a BMX helmet came in with a Bianchi S9 Matta Ti/Carbon Record, asking the mechanic to put slime in the tires so it wouldn’t get flats so often.
4. How many bikes do you own?
a. 2
b. 3-5
c. Are you counting complete, rideable bikes? Or do I have to count all the frames? Also, do I have to count the vintage bikes I keep in case I ever decide to open a bike museum? How about the one that Eddy Merckx once touched?
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And don't be a dork:
To help prevent from becoming objects of ridicule, here are 10 basic rules that if you adhere to faithfully, cycling dorkdom may never apply to you!
1. Never never never ever wear a mirror on your helmet. This one small thing will immediately put you in a major make-fun of position. Now, of course, some riders who live in major metro areas need a mirror when riding in traffic. But you if you choose this little glass helmet add-on, you will still be categorized immediately as a major stay-away-from dork.
2. For goodness sake, stop wearing Mercatone Uno or any other pro cycling apparel unless you perhaps actually ride for a pro team! Not many things will cause so many rolled eyes as a rider who shows up for a group ride completely decked out, from helmet to socks in some pro teams kit. YOU may think it is cool, but it is a major, major sign of dorkism. The only time this is allowed is when you are riding solo, and then only when no other riders will see you.
3. Replace your 6-year old Bell helmet. The alarm bells go off instantaneously when a rider with a Bell Vector or some such antique helmet rolls up. Eeeeeeeek!
4. PUH-LEEEEEEEEEEZ take your cycling shoes off sometime within, oh, 3 or 4 hours after you are done riding. Do not clatter all over the parking lot, registration, awards ceremony (EGAD!) with your cycling shoes on. Besides the obvious signs of dorkism, YOUR CLEATS ARE WEARING OUT!
5. GET OUT of your cycling shorts sometime within a week or so of completing your ride. Standing around the parking lot chatting for hours after your ride in your shorts (and shoes probably) is a big NO NO. Let me ask you this, do you see Lance hours after a race still with his shorts on ? UMMMM. NO. Pros immediately get out of their cycling clothes upon completion of the ride. For good reason. It is a good way to get saddle sores, not even counting the dork points you will pile up doing this.
6. NEVER BUY A "BIKE BRA". Only shop owners and rich snobs who ride C-40's and go slow use these. Bugs on your bike are a part of life dammit!
7. DO NOT tuck your jersey into you shorts when you ride. Umm, a bike jersey was not made to be tucked in, hello, the pockets on the back and such? Geeeeeeeeeeeeez.
8. SHAVE YOUR LEGS! Hairy legs are a monster giveaway to either being a major cycling dork, or, perhaps a victim of a very domineering wife.
9. DO NOT loudly describe to your friends after the ride how you "hammered" but then were dropped and finished 37th.
10. ROADIES w/ Camelbacks. Ummmmmm.. no..Acceptable only for RAAM riders and MTB, if you must.
10a. And last but not least: The dreaded Chainring mark. These black greasy nasty marks consist of a chainring impression upon the calve. Amazingly, Cat 4's and citizens never seem to see these marks, riding and walking around parking lots (in their cleats, of course) decorated with these tattoes of cycling dorkdom proudly displayed.
To help prevent from becoming objects of ridicule, here are 10 basic rules that if you adhere to faithfully, cycling dorkdom may never apply to you!
1. Never never never ever wear a mirror on your helmet. This one small thing will immediately put you in a major make-fun of position. Now, of course, some riders who live in major metro areas need a mirror when riding in traffic. But you if you choose this little glass helmet add-on, you will still be categorized immediately as a major stay-away-from dork.
2. For goodness sake, stop wearing Mercatone Uno or any other pro cycling apparel unless you perhaps actually ride for a pro team! Not many things will cause so many rolled eyes as a rider who shows up for a group ride completely decked out, from helmet to socks in some pro teams kit. YOU may think it is cool, but it is a major, major sign of dorkism. The only time this is allowed is when you are riding solo, and then only when no other riders will see you.
3. Replace your 6-year old Bell helmet. The alarm bells go off instantaneously when a rider with a Bell Vector or some such antique helmet rolls up. Eeeeeeeek!
4. PUH-LEEEEEEEEEEZ take your cycling shoes off sometime within, oh, 3 or 4 hours after you are done riding. Do not clatter all over the parking lot, registration, awards ceremony (EGAD!) with your cycling shoes on. Besides the obvious signs of dorkism, YOUR CLEATS ARE WEARING OUT!
5. GET OUT of your cycling shorts sometime within a week or so of completing your ride. Standing around the parking lot chatting for hours after your ride in your shorts (and shoes probably) is a big NO NO. Let me ask you this, do you see Lance hours after a race still with his shorts on ? UMMMM. NO. Pros immediately get out of their cycling clothes upon completion of the ride. For good reason. It is a good way to get saddle sores, not even counting the dork points you will pile up doing this.
6. NEVER BUY A "BIKE BRA". Only shop owners and rich snobs who ride C-40's and go slow use these. Bugs on your bike are a part of life dammit!
7. DO NOT tuck your jersey into you shorts when you ride. Umm, a bike jersey was not made to be tucked in, hello, the pockets on the back and such? Geeeeeeeeeeeeez.
8. SHAVE YOUR LEGS! Hairy legs are a monster giveaway to either being a major cycling dork, or, perhaps a victim of a very domineering wife.
9. DO NOT loudly describe to your friends after the ride how you "hammered" but then were dropped and finished 37th.
10. ROADIES w/ Camelbacks. Ummmmmm.. no..Acceptable only for RAAM riders and MTB, if you must.
10a. And last but not least: The dreaded Chainring mark. These black greasy nasty marks consist of a chainring impression upon the calve. Amazingly, Cat 4's and citizens never seem to see these marks, riding and walking around parking lots (in their cleats, of course) decorated with these tattoes of cycling dorkdom proudly displayed.
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Originally Posted by MrCjolsen
Other than things like handlebar tape, colors don't bother me that much, though I do avoid gear that is green, yellow, or red since my bike is brushed aluminum. Hence, most of my cycling clothes are black. And I didn't know there was a way to not have helmet hair.
This has sparked my interest because after two years, I've actually started riding with people.
This has sparked my interest because after two years, I've actually started riding with people.
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Originally Posted by Bikes-N-Drums
All these names for the bad stereotypes... what's the name for the ideal cyclist?
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I have no idea how much my bikes are worth as far as $$ . In fact, I could care less, they are a tool to get the job done. My bikes have never been blamed for missing the winning move, or for coming in 2nd, or 1 place out of the money. Nor are they responsible for winning etc.. It's me, my decisions, my discipline etc..
As far as value to my life, however they are priceless.
As far as value to my life, however they are priceless.
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Originally Posted by bbattle
And don't be a dork:
To help prevent from becoming objects of ridicule, here are 10 basic rules that if you adhere to faithfully, cycling dorkdom may never apply to you!
1. Never never never ever wear a mirror on your helmet. This one small thing will immediately put you in a major make-fun of position. Now, of course, some riders who live in major metro areas need a mirror when riding in traffic. But you if you choose this little glass helmet add-on, you will still be categorized immediately as a major stay-away-from dork.
2. For goodness sake, stop wearing Mercatone Uno or any other pro cycling apparel unless you perhaps actually ride for a pro team! Not many things will cause so many rolled eyes as a rider who shows up for a group ride completely decked out, from helmet to socks in some pro teams kit. YOU may think it is cool, but it is a major, major sign of dorkism. The only time this is allowed is when you are riding solo, and then only when no other riders will see you.
3. Replace your 6-year old Bell helmet. The alarm bells go off instantaneously when a rider with a Bell Vector or some such antique helmet rolls up. Eeeeeeeek!
4. PUH-LEEEEEEEEEEZ take your cycling shoes off sometime within, oh, 3 or 4 hours after you are done riding. Do not clatter all over the parking lot, registration, awards ceremony (EGAD!) with your cycling shoes on. Besides the obvious signs of dorkism, YOUR CLEATS ARE WEARING OUT!
5. GET OUT of your cycling shorts sometime within a week or so of completing your ride. Standing around the parking lot chatting for hours after your ride in your shorts (and shoes probably) is a big NO NO. Let me ask you this, do you see Lance hours after a race still with his shorts on ? UMMMM. NO. Pros immediately get out of their cycling clothes upon completion of the ride. For good reason. It is a good way to get saddle sores, not even counting the dork points you will pile up doing this.
6. NEVER BUY A "BIKE BRA". Only shop owners and rich snobs who ride C-40's and go slow use these. Bugs on your bike are a part of life dammit!
7. DO NOT tuck your jersey into you shorts when you ride. Umm, a bike jersey was not made to be tucked in, hello, the pockets on the back and such? Geeeeeeeeeeeeez.
8. SHAVE YOUR LEGS! Hairy legs are a monster giveaway to either being a major cycling dork, or, perhaps a victim of a very domineering wife.
9. DO NOT loudly describe to your friends after the ride how you "hammered" but then were dropped and finished 37th.
10. ROADIES w/ Camelbacks. Ummmmmm.. no..Acceptable only for RAAM riders and MTB, if you must.
10a. And last but not least: The dreaded Chainring mark. These black greasy nasty marks consist of a chainring impression upon the calve. Amazingly, Cat 4's and citizens never seem to see these marks, riding and walking around parking lots (in their cleats, of course) decorated with these tattoes of cycling dorkdom proudly displayed.
To help prevent from becoming objects of ridicule, here are 10 basic rules that if you adhere to faithfully, cycling dorkdom may never apply to you!
1. Never never never ever wear a mirror on your helmet. This one small thing will immediately put you in a major make-fun of position. Now, of course, some riders who live in major metro areas need a mirror when riding in traffic. But you if you choose this little glass helmet add-on, you will still be categorized immediately as a major stay-away-from dork.
2. For goodness sake, stop wearing Mercatone Uno or any other pro cycling apparel unless you perhaps actually ride for a pro team! Not many things will cause so many rolled eyes as a rider who shows up for a group ride completely decked out, from helmet to socks in some pro teams kit. YOU may think it is cool, but it is a major, major sign of dorkism. The only time this is allowed is when you are riding solo, and then only when no other riders will see you.
3. Replace your 6-year old Bell helmet. The alarm bells go off instantaneously when a rider with a Bell Vector or some such antique helmet rolls up. Eeeeeeeek!
4. PUH-LEEEEEEEEEEZ take your cycling shoes off sometime within, oh, 3 or 4 hours after you are done riding. Do not clatter all over the parking lot, registration, awards ceremony (EGAD!) with your cycling shoes on. Besides the obvious signs of dorkism, YOUR CLEATS ARE WEARING OUT!
5. GET OUT of your cycling shorts sometime within a week or so of completing your ride. Standing around the parking lot chatting for hours after your ride in your shorts (and shoes probably) is a big NO NO. Let me ask you this, do you see Lance hours after a race still with his shorts on ? UMMMM. NO. Pros immediately get out of their cycling clothes upon completion of the ride. For good reason. It is a good way to get saddle sores, not even counting the dork points you will pile up doing this.
6. NEVER BUY A "BIKE BRA". Only shop owners and rich snobs who ride C-40's and go slow use these. Bugs on your bike are a part of life dammit!
7. DO NOT tuck your jersey into you shorts when you ride. Umm, a bike jersey was not made to be tucked in, hello, the pockets on the back and such? Geeeeeeeeeeeeez.
8. SHAVE YOUR LEGS! Hairy legs are a monster giveaway to either being a major cycling dork, or, perhaps a victim of a very domineering wife.
9. DO NOT loudly describe to your friends after the ride how you "hammered" but then were dropped and finished 37th.
10. ROADIES w/ Camelbacks. Ummmmmm.. no..Acceptable only for RAAM riders and MTB, if you must.
10a. And last but not least: The dreaded Chainring mark. These black greasy nasty marks consist of a chainring impression upon the calve. Amazingly, Cat 4's and citizens never seem to see these marks, riding and walking around parking lots (in their cleats, of course) decorated with these tattoes of cycling dorkdom proudly displayed.
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Originally Posted by yater
You're a loser!
Good job Mr. bbattle.
55/Rad
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