...and I thought my Tarmac was quick...(rode a 595)
07-11-07, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by terry b
If white isn't tempting enough to shut up that Angel, try black -
07-11-07, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by crash13
terry b's got a great point...
can you explain this to my wife....anyone???
can you explain this to my wife....anyone???
07-11-07, 05:17 PM
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The black one for the devil on my left shoulder and the white one for the Angel on my right shoulder....NOW I NEED 2 OF THEM!
You guys seriously suck!
You guys seriously suck!
07-11-07, 05:18 PM
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I've run 120s forever and they work for me. So when I go custom, I work with the builder to design things with that length in mind.
Simply - I don't want to mess with what works. I can't see any advantage in going shorter or longer.
Simply - I don't want to mess with what works. I can't see any advantage in going shorter or longer.
07-11-07, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by aadhils
Can you adjust the saddle height on em? Just wondering...
07-11-07, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by crash13
The black one for the devil on my left shoulder and the white one for the Angel on my right shoulder....NOW I NEED 2 OF THEM!
You guys seriously suck!
You guys seriously suck!
07-11-07, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by terry b
A Calfee Tetra Pro was the best CF bike I'd ridden, until I rode a Colnago C50.
The Colnago C50 was the best CF frame I'd ever ridden until I tried a Parlee Z2.
That Parlee Z2 was the best CF frame I'd ever ridden, until I picked up a Look 595 this past spring. Now that's a CF bike.
My Look 595 was the best CF frame I'd ever ridden, until I picked up a custom Crumpton SL. That bike is the best CF bike I've ever ridden, hands down.
When does it stop?
The Colnago C50 was the best CF frame I'd ever ridden until I tried a Parlee Z2.
That Parlee Z2 was the best CF frame I'd ever ridden, until I picked up a Look 595 this past spring. Now that's a CF bike.
My Look 595 was the best CF frame I'd ever ridden, until I picked up a custom Crumpton SL. That bike is the best CF bike I've ever ridden, hands down.
When does it stop?
Crumpton SL is the best bike youve ridden...until you get back on a Calfee Tetra Pro?
07-11-07, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by terry b
A Calfee Tetra Pro was the best CF bike I'd ridden, until I rode a Colnago C50.
The Colnago C50 was the best CF frame I'd ever ridden until I tried a Parlee Z2.
That Parlee Z2 was the best CF frame I'd ever ridden, until I picked up a Look 595 this past spring. Now that's a CF bike.
My Look 595 was the best CF frame I'd ever ridden, until I picked up a custom Crumpton SL. That bike is the best CF bike I've ever ridden, hands down.
When does it stop?
The Colnago C50 was the best CF frame I'd ever ridden until I tried a Parlee Z2.
That Parlee Z2 was the best CF frame I'd ever ridden, until I picked up a Look 595 this past spring. Now that's a CF bike.
My Look 595 was the best CF frame I'd ever ridden, until I picked up a custom Crumpton SL. That bike is the best CF bike I've ever ridden, hands down.
When does it stop?
My two dream bikes are the Pinarello Prince and the Look 595. I have the sense to not get within spitting distance of either 
07-11-07, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MIN
Terry I'm curious: why do you run 120 mm length stem when you have a custom frame? Some about the way that it handles with a relatively longer stem?
As I've said before, and will say again, if you're between sizes, get the smaller size, every time. Because you can take a small bike and make it the same size or larger, but you can't make a big bike smaller. I realize he has a custom bike, but why would he want to have a larger frame when he can achieve the same thing with a slightly longer stem and seatpost? I have no clue if Terry B races, but he has a "race fit" frame.
07-11-07, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by terry b
If white isn't tempting enough to shut up that Angel, try black -
I'm this far from heading down to the local Look dealer and buying one... You guys are bad company.
07-11-07, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Duke of Kent
I still don't understand your fascination with short stems. I ride a 110 on a 50cm Cannondale. Would be a 120mm if I went to the 48cm (1cm shorter TT).
As I've said before, and will say again, if you're between sizes, get the smaller size, every time. Because you can take a small bike and make it the same size or larger, but you can't make a big bike smaller. I realize he has a custom bike, but why would he want to have a larger frame when he can achieve the same thing with a slightly longer stem and seatpost? I have no clue if Terry B races, but he has a "race fit" frame.
As I've said before, and will say again, if you're between sizes, get the smaller size, every time. Because you can take a small bike and make it the same size or larger, but you can't make a big bike smaller. I realize he has a custom bike, but why would he want to have a larger frame when he can achieve the same thing with a slightly longer stem and seatpost? I have no clue if Terry B races, but he has a "race fit" frame.
07-12-07, 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by terry b
A Calfee Tetra Pro was the best CF bike I'd ridden, until I rode a Colnago C50.
The Colnago C50 was the best CF frame I'd ever ridden until I tried a Parlee Z2.
That Parlee Z2 was the best CF frame I'd ever ridden, until I picked up a Look 595 this past spring. Now that's a CF bike.
My Look 595 was the best CF frame I'd ever ridden, until I picked up a custom Crumpton SL. That bike is the best CF bike I've ever ridden, hands down.
When does it stop?
The Colnago C50 was the best CF frame I'd ever ridden until I tried a Parlee Z2.
That Parlee Z2 was the best CF frame I'd ever ridden, until I picked up a Look 595 this past spring. Now that's a CF bike.
My Look 595 was the best CF frame I'd ever ridden, until I picked up a custom Crumpton SL. That bike is the best CF bike I've ever ridden, hands down.
When does it stop?
In truth, I wonder if that ever starts unwinding and there's anyone with a story like this that ends with " . . . and then I rode a Scattante and THAT was the best bike . . . "
07-12-07, 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by crash13
No, I have the Tarmac Expert.
However, I have ridden an SL and yes it is quite a bit qucker than my non-SL Tarmac. It definately compares better to the 595. The 595 just seemed "whippier." If that makes sense...
However, I have ridden an SL and yes it is quite a bit qucker than my non-SL Tarmac. It definately compares better to the 595. The 595 just seemed "whippier." If that makes sense...
07-12-07, 01:57 AM
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The 595 won't be 'quicker'. If the frames both fit ideally, the difference in power transferred to the road may be like, 1 watt, assuming same component set. I'm sure the experts could speculate on this.
I get that it feels different. That's fair enough, but how long did you ride it for?
But they are damn sexy.
also comparing a Tarmac Elite to a Look 595 is not a fair comparison. Although the Tarmac was designed to be a race bike, the frame costs less than half of the LOOK, so you can expect better carbon, better manufacturing and better engineering (even though they are French). You are better off comparing the S-Works SL2 to the 595.
I get that it feels different. That's fair enough, but how long did you ride it for?
But they are damn sexy.
also comparing a Tarmac Elite to a Look 595 is not a fair comparison. Although the Tarmac was designed to be a race bike, the frame costs less than half of the LOOK, so you can expect better carbon, better manufacturing and better engineering (even though they are French
). You are better off comparing the S-Works SL2 to the 595.
07-12-07, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by shogun17
The 595 won't be 'quicker'. If the frames both fit ideally, the difference in power transferred to the road may be like, 1 watt, assuming same component set. I'm sure the experts could speculate on this.
I do love the Looks though. Probably my favorite high-end bike.
07-12-07, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Duke of Kent
I still don't understand your fascination with short stems. I ride a 110 on a 50cm Cannondale. Would be a 120mm if I went to the 48cm (1cm shorter TT).
As I've said before, and will say again, if you're between sizes, get the smaller size, every time. Because you can take a small bike and make it the same size or larger, but you can't make a big bike smaller. I realize he has a custom bike, but why would he want to have a larger frame when he can achieve the same thing with a slightly longer stem and seatpost? I have no clue if Terry B races, but he has a "race fit" frame.
As I've said before, and will say again, if you're between sizes, get the smaller size, every time. Because you can take a small bike and make it the same size or larger, but you can't make a big bike smaller. I realize he has a custom bike, but why would he want to have a larger frame when he can achieve the same thing with a slightly longer stem and seatpost? I have no clue if Terry B races, but he has a "race fit" frame.
07-12-07, 10:09 AM
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