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So Lance was doping after all
Beta-CHG is a hormone that is produced naturally by the body when the body has testicular cancer. It also happens to be a banned substance and one tested by the various sport organizations, including the UCI.
Several professional athletes have tested positive for Beta-CHG, professed their innocence, and later were proven to have been innocent because they were diagnosed with testicular cancer. The testing may have saved their lives because of the early detection of the cancer. Lance was tested by the UCI several times during the period in which he had testicular cancer. He did not test positive for beta-CHG. Not even once. He never sued the UCI for negligence. In fact, he never even castigated them for failing to find beta-CHG, a finding that would have greatly helped prevent his cancer from developing to the near fatal stage that it did. This repeated failure to detect beta-CHG makes no sense whatsoever unless Lance was doping. I learned this factoid from Walsh's most recent book. I went on the internet and confirmed that beta-CHG is, in fact, routinely tested to determine whether a man has testicular cancer. This is the evidence that has changed my mind about Lance. It's just not possible that several of these tests would all have failed to catch beta-CHG, unless he was somehow diluting or cleansing his blood before the dope tests. This guy has fooled most of the world, and got rich by cheating. |
Oh... good... Lord...
:rolleyes: I would love to hear your thoughts on the JFK assassination. |
OMG NOT MY Lance!! HES MY HEROZ
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Yes, anything written in a book is the truth.
Hey, did you read about the Martian base on the moon? There is a book on that too. What about the whole civilization living inside the Earth? There a several books on that. They are actually superior beings to us you know. You had better get off the forum. You have a lot more factoids to read up on. |
Originally Posted by Avalanche325
(Post 4947580)
Yes, anything written in a book is the truth.
Hey, did you read about the Martian base on the moon? There is a book on that too. What about the whole civilization living inside the Earth? There a several books on that. They are actually superior beings to us you know. You had better get off the forum. You have a lot more factoids to read up on. |
Originally Posted by hiracer
(Post 4947494)
This repeated failure to detect beta-CHG makes no sense whatsoever unless Lance was doping.
Please explain this bit of logic. |
Originally Posted by ovoleg
(Post 4947587)
I read all my factoids on the forum...
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Originally Posted by hiracer
(Post 4947494)
Beta-CHG is a hormone that is produced naturally by the body when the body has testicular cancer. It also happens to be a banned substance and one tested by the various sport organizations, including the UCI.
Several professional athletes have tested positive for Beta-CHG, professed their innocence, and later were proven to have been innocent because they were diagnosed with testicular cancer. The testing may have saved their lives because of the early detection of the cancer. Lance was tested by the UCI several times during the period in which he had testicular cancer. He did not test positive for beta-CHG. Not even once. He never sued the UCI for negligence. In fact, he never even castigated them for failing to find beta-CHG, a finding that would have greatly helped prevent his cancer from developing to the near fatal stage that it did. This repeated failure to detect beta-CHG makes no sense whatsoever unless Lance was doping. I learned this factoid from Walsh's most recent book. I went on the internet and confirmed that beta-CHG is, in fact, routinely tested to determine whether a man has testicular cancer. This is the evidence that has changed my mind about Lance. It's just not possible that several of these tests would all have failed to catch beta-CHG, unless he was somehow diluting or cleansing his blood before the dope tests. This guy has fooled most of the world, and got rich by cheating. http://img196.echo.cx/img196/2974/354crackpipe5oy.jpg |
OP, it's nice outside. You should go for a ride.
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Originally Posted by hiracer
(Post 4947494)
Beta-CHG is a hormone that is produced naturally by the body when the body has testicular cancer. It also happens to be a banned substance and one tested by the various sport organizations, including the UCI.
Several professional athletes have tested positive for Beta-CHG, professed their innocence, and later were proven to have been innocent because they were diagnosed with testicular cancer. The testing may have saved their lives because of the early detection of the cancer. Lance was tested by the UCI several times during the period in which he had testicular cancer. He did not test positive for beta-CHG. Not even once. He never sued the UCI for negligence. In fact, he never even castigated them for failing to find beta-CHG, a finding that would have greatly helped prevent his cancer from developing to the near fatal stage that it did. This repeated failure to detect beta-CHG makes no sense whatsoever unless Lance was doping. I learned this factoid from Walsh's most recent book. I went on the internet and confirmed that beta-CHG is, in fact, routinely tested to determine whether a man has testicular cancer. This is the evidence that has changed my mind about Lance. It's just not possible that several of these tests would all have failed to catch beta-CHG, unless he was somehow diluting or cleansing his blood before the dope tests. This guy has fooled most of the world, and got rich by cheating. Normal healthy men don't have any beta-HCG in their bodies. Pregnant women do, and last I checked they're not particularly performance-enhanced. |
I'm not one of the Lance defenders, and am usually game to any story that rips into him, but that just sounds like a bunch of crap.
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Originally Posted by DrPete
(Post 4947722)
Do you mean beta-HCG? That's a marker for a certain subtype of cancer (choriocarcinoma) and has no performance enhancing benefit at those levels. Just because it's negative doesn't mean you don't have testicular cancer.
Normal healthy men don't have any beta-HCG in their bodies. IIRC isn't beta-hcg what's tested for in pregnancies? |
Originally Posted by DrPete
(Post 4947722)
Normal healthy men don't have any beta-HCG in their bodies.
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Originally Posted by DrPete
(Post 4947722)
Do you mean beta-HCG? That's a marker for a certain subtype of cancer (choriocarcinoma) and has no performance enhancing benefit at those levels. Just because it's negative doesn't mean you don't have testicular cancer.
Normal healthy men don't have any beta-HCG in their bodies. |
Originally Posted by eskimo85
(Post 4947769)
The believe the OP is trying to say that the blood was cleansed of whatever else it contained too because otherwise this would have showed up if it was not altered.
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Originally Posted by okpik
(Post 4947765)
correct, but it is flagged when it shows up on their drug tests, and those with testicular cancer especially in late stages usually have very elevated beta-hcg levels
IIRC isn't beta-hcg what's tested for in pregnancies? And yes, beta-HCG is present in pregnancy too. |
Originally Posted by Sprocket Man
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This looks like Lance, doesn't it?
http://www.streetdecals.com/newebay/...gns/area51.jpg |
Armstrong was at 52000, 92380, and 109000 according to him(google'd for it). Won't show up in a typical urine drug test though would it? Or would it? Blood test it would.
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really who cares if he had any thing in his blood its over and done with, besides i would like to see u go through chemotherapy and go ride and finish a tour
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Troll
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Originally Posted by Jr30586
(Post 4948309)
I would like to see you go through chemotherapy and finish a tour much less win the *******
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