Exactly. And since the owner isn't good enough to train the dog to behave I'll use pepper spray for some quick and harmless aversion therapy.

No, I have never owned a dog or even petted one. I just figured I would blow some smoke.

I am well aware that dogs have been breed by breeders. The fact is that we now have breeds that are too agressive and it is proven by history. Stop the breeders or the breed or the owners, I don't care, but these dogs should not exist in a environment that is said to be safe.

I never said that all "aggressive breed" dogs were bad. Reread my post. There are obviously more "good" stories than bad but again, they are like a ticking time bomb. You never know when it might go off and it is obvious that some breed "go off" more often than others by a significant %.

Some more facts. See that attachment.

Ass**** owners gravitate toward certain breeds and as a result those breeds do have a higher frequency rate of attacks, but that is not indicative of the genetics of the dogs but of the training they have received. When I was young German Shepards had the bad rep for being aggressive, but they fell out of vogue with the criminal dog owners. Now they are used by police and have great reps. After that it was Doberman Pinchers same story for them now they are used properly and enjoy a good rep. Today it is Rottweilers and Pit Bulls who are favored by thugs and rednecks so they are the breed everyone is scared of. Tomorrow it will be something else the Irish Wolfhound or Bull Mastiff but it is not the genetics of the breed but the idiocy of the master.

Dogs are what, us humans make them to be. Some breeds have been bred explicitly to be aggressive, like pit bulls and others to be decorative. But mostly, aggressivity in dogs is an education matter. Instead of banning dog breeds, lets educate them and their masters : Education of dog owners can address several issues:
(1) understanding breed profiles may assist owners in
selecting the appropriate dog for their lifestyle and train-
ing abilities, (2) convincing owners to seriously consid-
er the sex and reproductive status of their dogs is impor-
tant because male and sexually intact dogs are more like-
ly to bite than are female and neutered dogs, and (3)
teaching owners about the importance of socialization
and training may decrease their likelihood of owning a
dog that will eventually bite.

Or Dachshunds. You never know. They're pretty mean.

Correct.

You Seppos make me sick with your...

Uh.. What?

Wrong thread, sorry.

When I'm on my bike and I see a dog running towards me, I do take a long moment to reflect on the tragedy of poor dogs being badly treated by their owners, about dog owners selecting breeds appropriate to their lifestyles and training abilities, about teaching dog owners the importance of socialization and training, etc etc.

Yeah.

My sprint, my leg, or your nose. We'll talk about the rest later, ok?

Here, here!!! I agree with this!

Every single time there's a viscious attack against some child or elderly person or jogger or cyclist, the apologists always come out excusing the attacking breed, when 9 times out of 10 you know what breed it is before you even hear the story.

The "deadly weapon" owners will always say that "MY little pit bull is as sweet as a lamb"...yeah, right. Until it goes nuts on some small child, and then the owners will try to blame the victim...

Every time I ride I remember that a pack of dogs caused me to crash, crack my helmet on the hard pavement, and damaged my bike. I could have died that day because of dogs.

Anyway, if your little sweetie pie pit bull or darling German Sheppard comes after me, he's going down THIS time...not me.

DPN

I hate dogs...hate, hate, hate...been bitten twice. Once by a dobie and the other by a German shepard. I hate being around the damn things, they should be leashed at all times. Any owner who does not curb their animal should be charged with a felony.

You say SOME dogs are bread to be aggressive... here's a clue, they are ALL meant to be aggressive, they're friggin' carnivores. Eyes on the front of their heads, sharp teeth...just because we've managed to domesticate them does not mean that they are in anyway safe. Ultimately they are wild animals and with any wild animal there is a chance, no matter how good the training, that they will go wild and hurt someone. While it's wonderful that there are laws that would make the owner of such an animal responsible for any damage done, that's cold comfort to the person who is hospitalized or worse.

I'm sure there were other reasons, the least of them dogs.
The dog threads always seem to bring out the gun/mace carrying people. My argument to that whole idea is this: Anyone who has enough time to pull out and use whatever they're carrying has enough time to pedal the f##k out of the situation.

The second post by lowcel was poignant. Indeed, the owners of these beasts are the ones to be afraid of. Stay alive: Practice your sprints and keep the toys at home fellas.

Please tell me this is a joke.

Nope. Seriously, would you feel the same about tigers or bears?

Please tell me this is a joke.

Again...nope...hate 'em.

not a joke, here's my carnivore destroying my christmas wrapping job,a real killer, I tell ya

Asian cultures have it right...fry 'em up, yum.

My last dog 'problem' I was with my wife in the countryside. Knowing full well she wasn't about outride any critter, I simply did a standing sprint barking like mad straight for them. Dog did a U-turn in the middle of the road and sped off at full gallop. We appeal to their prey drive, it's simply a matter of which half.

HA - love it!

Observe, the ferocious predator in action! I can see why he strikes terror into the hearts of cyclists everywhere.

Syntax Police:

Domestication refers to the process whereby a population of animals or plants becomes accustomed to human provision and control.

Wildlife refers to all non-domesticated plants, animals, and other organisms. Domesticated organisms are those that have adapted to survival with the help of (or under the control of) humans, after many generations. Therefore, domesticated animals, such as dogs, need the aid of humans to ensure survival.

we better put that thing down before it kills someone. I mean it's got eyes in the front of it's head, it must be dangerous.

Right...you're making a joke, right?

So I'm supposed to stop. Get off my bike. Walk up to Mr. Redneck and his friends in my bike shoes and start "educating" them about their role as a responsible dog owner? Puh-lease...what planet are you on? These people WANT a dog to bite. They THINK it's FUNNY that their dog chases "them fancy boys ridin' them bicycles..."

You can pretend that it's all about the owners, and that all breeds of dogs are little sweet lambs, but I have been chased often enough to know which ones want blood. When I'm being chased/attacked I really don't have the time to theorize about how this poor liitle pooch has been "educated" poorly.

I'll ask questions later...

DPN

Dude, you need to move away from these people.

Racist punk.

I don't get it. Some guy talks about how he mildly teases his dog and you and AbsoluteZ3R0 think that he deserves to die.

What the ****?