I was thinking either the Keywin CRM Titanium which comes in at 192g/pair or the SpeedplayZero CrMo at 210g/pair. In addition the cleats for the Keywin come in quite a bit lighter over the Zeros. I can get both for close to the same price, low $100 range with the Zero slightly cheaper. Are there any thoughts between the Keywins or the Speedplays? I know a lot of guys love the Speedplays, so I'm curious to hear your reasons.

Is it just that people don't have any experience with the Keywin's? I thought you guys would be all over this.

Keywins look interesting but I had never heard of them. I have been advised to stay away from Ti axles but I am 230 lbs. Personally I am not fond of Speedplay but that is only my paradigm, I have no experience.

Dubbayoo is using Keywins on his track setup, and more recently - I think - on his road. Best be asking him (or he might just post here).

I would suggest Bebop Deluxe if you want lighter-than-titanium AND steel, no weight limit, 20° of unrestricted float, step-down entry, ease of use, walk-ability, and a design that automatically clears the cleat during the engaging-process so you'll never get 'stuck' with a muddied cleat, but the price is high and the wait time can be long as well.

Sorry, it's not one of the choices, but I really enjoy my Keo Looks. Haven't looked back or considered another pedal since I bought mine.

I've had great success and comfort with my Speedplay X's for 3 years now. My only complaint is that in really bad weather, the cleats can get a bit mucked up, but then again most of those days I had NO business being on my bike, but I just had to finish the ride I started without calling for the sag wagon.

One of my Keywin's broke out on a ride. I had to pedal the long way home on just one pedal.

TO make it worse, Keywin refused to give me a refund and were even loathe to replace the pedal (they said that the only way their pedals can break was by being involved in a wreck--sounds crazy but that's what they told me and I still have their emails to prove it).

So no, I cannot recommend Keywin...in fact, I'd strongly advise against it.

I'm really sorry about this question, but what is float?

I've been riding on Keywin CRMs for a couple of years and they are excellent pedals. They are a very comfortable pedal to use. The cleat is really large and I have never suffered from hot-foot like I used to with the LOOK pedals I used to ride on.

You do have to maintain them, replacing parts as they wear or you will eventually get breakages. Apart from the spindle, screws and bearings, all the rest of the pedals and cleats are manufactured from nylon composite and these parts wear with use.

Float is the amount of lateral rotation the pedal allows before beginning to disengage. It's a whole religious discussion about whether float is good or bad for both your knees and your pedalling efficiency.