Ouch...$4.89 / gallon diesel
05-21-08, 06:02 AM
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To be fair, most peer-reviewed articles are limited to reasonable scientific claims, usually with statements (maybe vague) of uncertainties. It's really the popular media to blame for sensationalizing it. Polar bears. Sinking islands. Ravaging hurricanes.
On the other hand, there are lots of insurance companies, with more at stake than Exxon maybe, that have bought into the global warming fad. Maybe they're onto something.
Back on topic: My new car gets 13 km/l. I still bike everywhere.
On the other hand, there are lots of insurance companies, with more at stake than Exxon maybe, that have bought into the global warming fad. Maybe they're onto something.
Back on topic: My new car gets 13 km/l. I still bike everywhere.
Yes, back on topic. My new car sits around 13.7, but even so I still bike everywhere I can...
05-21-08, 08:17 AM
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Average British commuter is 8.5 miles one way, so 17 miles traveled
https://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3085647.stm
Average American commute is 16 miles one way, 32 miles traveled
https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Tra...tory?id=485098
They pay around $9.00/gal(someone give me an accurate number, purty please)
The national average for the U.S is $3.29
Average MPG of U.K cars is 37MPG
https://www.fuel-economy.co.uk/stats.shtml
Average MPG of U.S car is 24MPG
https://www.eia.doe.gov/kids/energyfa...ingenergy.html
5 day work weeks
U.K - 85 miles traveled for work a week
U.S - 160 miles traveled for work a week
U.K uses roughly 2.29 gallons of fuel for a work week
U.S uses roughly 6.66 gallons of fuel a work week
U.K $20.61/week commute
U.S $21.91/week commute
Huge variables, some Brits may be screwed and some Yanks don't waste a drop of fuel. Some Brits pay much less, some Yanks pay much more, you get it.
Do not pass go, do not collect $200! I did this awhile ago on another forum so I copy/pasted it, but it's pretty much going to turn out the same with current prices.
Fact remains, Americans indeed pay more for fuel because of the shock to our life style and get less in return(example, health care, gas taxed) then our allies on the other side of the pond.
Canadians, IMO, have it made. Their gas prices are only about a $.40 more then the U.S but get all the social comforts of the U.K, Canada is bargain mart.
https://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3085647.stm
Average American commute is 16 miles one way, 32 miles traveled
https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Tra...tory?id=485098
They pay around $9.00/gal(someone give me an accurate number, purty please)
The national average for the U.S is $3.29
Average MPG of U.K cars is 37MPG
https://www.fuel-economy.co.uk/stats.shtml
Average MPG of U.S car is 24MPG
https://www.eia.doe.gov/kids/energyfa...ingenergy.html
5 day work weeks
U.K - 85 miles traveled for work a week
U.S - 160 miles traveled for work a week
U.K uses roughly 2.29 gallons of fuel for a work week
U.S uses roughly 6.66 gallons of fuel a work week
U.K $20.61/week commute
U.S $21.91/week commute
Huge variables, some Brits may be screwed and some Yanks don't waste a drop of fuel. Some Brits pay much less, some Yanks pay much more, you get it.
Do not pass go, do not collect $200! I did this awhile ago on another forum so I copy/pasted it, but it's pretty much going to turn out the same with current prices.
Fact remains, Americans indeed pay more for fuel because of the shock to our life style and get less in return(example, health care, gas taxed) then our allies on the other side of the pond.
Canadians, IMO, have it made. Their gas prices are only about a $.40 more then the U.S but get all the social comforts of the U.K, Canada is bargain mart.
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05-21-08, 08:57 AM
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Well done, Gordon.
05-21-08, 09:08 AM
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My old diesel Jetta gets about 43 mpg... that's about a gallon a day for my commute. So if I do a bike commute to work, I can almost save enough to pay for a lousy value meal lunch. Woo hoo. Now, if diesel/gas got up to around $10/gal, then I'd start riding in more.
05-21-08, 09:28 AM
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I wish I still had my Honda CRX HF. That sucker got 55-60MPG on the highway consistently.
Yeah, it was a 2-seater with little or no cargo capacity, but it would turn just 2000 rpm at 70mph and take you almost 600 miles on the 10 gallon tank. Can't beat that with a stick.
Yeah, it was a 2-seater with little or no cargo capacity, but it would turn just 2000 rpm at 70mph and take you almost 600 miles on the 10 gallon tank. Can't beat that with a stick.
05-21-08, 11:09 AM
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You don't need 20 gallons of gasoline/diesel a week, either.
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I have no problem with people moaning about $4/gal gasoline. Drive less, get a smaller car, or suck it up.
I do have a HUGE problem with $4.50 home heating oil.
Since so many of you seem so much smarter than me, any recommendations on dealing with this?
PS: I cannot lower the thermostat any more with a newborn in the house.
I do have a HUGE problem with $4.50 home heating oil.
Since so many of you seem so much smarter than me, any recommendations on dealing with this?
PS: I cannot lower the thermostat any more with a newborn in the house.
05-21-08, 11:36 AM
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I have no problem with people moaning about $4/gal gasoline. Drive less, get a smaller car, don't have kids, or suck it up.
I do have a HUGE problem with $4.50 home heating oil.
Since so many of you seem so much smarter than me, any recommendations on dealing with this?
PS: I cannot lower the thermostat any more with a newborn in the house.
I do have a HUGE problem with $4.50 home heating oil.
Since so many of you seem so much smarter than me, any recommendations on dealing with this?
PS: I cannot lower the thermostat any more with a newborn in the house.
05-21-08, 11:50 AM
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I have no problem with people moaning about $4/gal gasoline. Drive less, get a smaller car, or suck it up.
I do have a HUGE problem with $4.50 home heating oil.
Since so many of you seem so much smarter than me, any recommendations on dealing with this?
PS: I cannot lower the thermostat any more with a newborn in the house.
I do have a HUGE problem with $4.50 home heating oil.
Since so many of you seem so much smarter than me, any recommendations on dealing with this?
PS: I cannot lower the thermostat any more with a newborn in the house.
05-21-08, 12:14 PM
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I have no problem with people moaning about $4/gal gasoline. Drive less, get a smaller car, or suck it up.
I do have a HUGE problem with $4.50 home heating oil.
Since so many of you seem so much smarter than me, any recommendations on dealing with this?
PS: I cannot lower the thermostat any more with a newborn in the house.
I do have a HUGE problem with $4.50 home heating oil.
Since so many of you seem so much smarter than me, any recommendations on dealing with this?
PS: I cannot lower the thermostat any more with a newborn in the house.
05-21-08, 12:24 PM
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I live in Norway and i just payed 10,3$ a gallon. They are expecting 11.50$ this summer.
Hows that for one of the biggest oil countries in the world. Most of it are taxes, around 80%.
Hows that for one of the biggest oil countries in the world. Most of it are taxes, around 80%.
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05-21-08, 12:27 PM
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Not in the UK - diesel is always more expensive by 5-10p per litre - apparently because it's a dirtier fuel and therefore must be taxed more heavily. This is regardless of the fact that diesel cars in general are much more economical than their petrol counterparts...
Well done, Gordon.
Well done, Gordon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_tax
Diesel is a dirtier fuel that should concern us as bicyclist as diesel exhaust consists of small particles. Long-term exposures can lead to chronic, more serious health problems such as cardiovascular disease, cardiopulmonary disease, and lung cancer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_particulate_matter
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05-21-08, 02:36 PM
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in the UK the duty and taxes are the same for petrol and diesel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_tax
Diesel is a dirtier fuel that should concern us as bicyclist as diesel exhaust consists of small particles. Long-term exposures can lead to chronic, more serious health problems such as cardiovascular disease, cardiopulmonary disease, and lung cancer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_particulate_matter
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_tax
Diesel is a dirtier fuel that should concern us as bicyclist as diesel exhaust consists of small particles. Long-term exposures can lead to chronic, more serious health problems such as cardiovascular disease, cardiopulmonary disease, and lung cancer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_particulate_matter
Ehhhh, we have to pay a lot for home heating because we live in a colder climate.
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I'll be installing all three this summer. Geothermal payback period dropped to seven years from 15 years due to rise in oil prices.
$2.85 / gallon heating oil beginning of last winter. $4.55 / gallon heating oil this summer (some houses use heating oil to heat water) - only to go up higher during heating months. I'm not complaining - just feel for those who can't pay their heating bills.
$2.85 / gallon heating oil beginning of last winter. $4.55 / gallon heating oil this summer (some houses use heating oil to heat water) - only to go up higher during heating months. I'm not complaining - just feel for those who can't pay their heating bills.
05-21-08, 03:52 PM
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That's why we have a cleaner diesel with reduced sulfur, aka ULSD. They're not as "dirty" as you're lead to believe. They only look dirty with the soot.
As an example, they left a white cloth wrapped around the tailpipe and drove some distance. No mark on the inside of the cloth at all. Probably not a good thing to do long-term for the exhaust system, of course.
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Isn't audi (VAG) getting the diesel? I thought chrysler was also going to use bluetec?