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Old 06-08-08 | 08:21 AM
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Early on, the announcer was saying they were going about 35 mph.

They might have slowed somewhat as the race wore on, but I'll swear that the lead teams must've been pushing 40 when they dropped the hammer on the last couple laps.

The tires on the Subaru SUV that was riding support occasionally howled & chirped around the corners while keeping up with the breakaway group.

I'm surprised that there were only two crashes, considering how crappy parts of those streets are.
Were those crashes in the pro-event? Cause I was their for the Mens 1/2/3 and their were no crashes. The womens at the start line was the only one I had seen and that was just a mess. Anyway man that is a good speed and in the mens 1/2/3 I could tell they were booking it but was not sure how fast. The pace car was flooring it during one part because the leaders came up on him quick. Anyway that is a good speed to be moving at, I am averaging about 15mph right after my ride yesterday so I got a little to do before im their.
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Old 06-08-08 | 08:24 AM
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I've hit 50 on downhills as well - once you get past the "wow this is amazing, but I'm so screwed if I crash now" feeling, the thing that gets to me is how long it takes you to slow a bike down from those kind of speeds.

Can't beat the feeling of knowing you can do that without gasoline.
I am kinda a speed freak so doing the 39+ gets my heart going in excitement. However in some of the roads around here I would not go any faster then that since their not in the best condition and I could only think what it would feel like f I hit a huge crack.

I cant believe I was going that fast and yeah without a engine ha. Well I guess my legs are the engine lol.
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Old 06-08-08 | 09:47 AM
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Were those crashes in the pro-event? Cause I was their for the Mens 1/2/3 and their were no crashes.
Yup, it was the pro race; I didn't arrive until the kids' races. I don't know for sure what happened in each crash, but I think that they were both single-rider wrecks, one very early and the other in the last corner on the last lap.
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Old 06-08-08 | 12:12 PM
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There is a really good video on Utube of some guys in the tour doing 100 km/hr. Wish I had the link. It needs to be steep to go that fast, you (or at least I) can't spin that fast.
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Old 06-08-08 | 01:39 PM
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there's a mile long 5 degree hill about 3 miles from where i live... i've been waning to try it, but, I don't want to climb back up it...
Embrace the hill -- you know you want to. Wallow in the long glorious down hill, then enjoy the challenge of getting back up again.

Just think of the overwhelming sense of accomplishment you'll get when you conquer your nemesis. Then it'll be, "hmm, wasn't so bad. Now, when can I do that again, and how can I do it in a bigger gear?"
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Today I had my mountain bike going 30mph (with maxxis off road tires). I was trying to hang with a pack of road bikes........after about 2 miles I was exausted and had to drop off the pace. I'm in decent shape but I'd have to say that was too fast for me. Would it make a huge difference if I changed to road tires?
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Old 08-16-08 | 07:12 PM
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I did 39 coming down a bridge and through an off-ramp on I75 (northbound lanes were closed). I wish I could have hit 50, fun stuff.
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Old 08-16-08 | 08:33 PM
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So I got my cyclocomputer setup today and took it out for a trip. I was headed down hill and my comp showed I was doing 39mph and I am not sure if thats right. It was a fairly steep hill and I was moving very fast so I was some what confused if it was correct or not. Also the settings were all set correctly for my tire size and its wired so should be no interference.

So is 39mph to fast to be true or is that a regular speed for a down hill run?
Everyone else has weighed in about the 39 mph on a hill. If you dialed in the correct circumference of your tires when you set up the cyclocomputer, it's probably giving you accurate numbers. A simple test of the calibration is to ride side-by-side with another cyclist and compare the speed readings.
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Old 08-16-08 | 09:00 PM
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I never really trusted my computer till I rode by one of the police "your speed is ___" machines. my cateye was dead on. (as a side note those things are addicting, I kept riding around the block to pass it again and again, I never realized I would work on bikers, but I guess they use the same things for baseball speeds and I am larger than that )
This reminds me of the time when my friend and I were riding up a quite steep hill that had those "your speed is ____" machines. We were struggling up the hill going about 8 mph joking about the machine thing, when it starts flashing slow down. I think it picked up a car far away, but it was really funny at the time.

Also, I hit 46 mph on a descent last week. Was braking, so sometime I want to try it without touching the brakes.
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Old 08-16-08 | 09:07 PM
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i was going down a hill at 46mph and a fat guy passed me... and yelled.. physics sucks! lol..
he's not very knowledgeable in the way of physics then.
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39 is fast. Fast enough to make sure you're looking down the road far enough and are anticipating trouble.

For me anything in the 40-45mph range is "everyday fast" where I'll top out on most of my normal descents.

Anything above 45 is "holy ****" fast. I cracked the 50mph mark a couple weeks ago. I looked down during a 3 mile steep decent and I was holding steady at 48mph...then I went back to watching the road. Went through a nice long left hand sweeper that goes 180 degrees, and I'm pretty sure that's where I cracked 50. I went from holding the inside line to hanging on to the right side of the road. For about 3 seconds I was pretty freaked out.

39 is good times.
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I live in Illinois. It is very, very flat here. Pancake flat. Not as flat as Florida, but between the highest and lowest spot in the entire state is about 900 feet. There ain't much yet I still can hit 50-55 mph on a half mile hill. I think the gradient hits 20% for a small stretch.
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Old 08-16-08 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by chouettey
Also, I hit 46 mph on a descent last week. Was braking, so sometime I want to try it without touching the brakes.
that might be one of those tricks you can only do once!
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Originally Posted by Z-Clay
Today I had my mountain bike going 30mph (with maxxis off road tires). I was trying to hang with a pack of road bikes........after about 2 miles I was exausted and had to drop off the pace. I'm in decent shape but I'd have to say that was too fast for me. Would it make a huge difference if I changed to road tires?
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Embrace the hill -- you know you want to. Wallow in the long glorious down hill, then enjoy the challenge of getting back up again.

Just think of the overwhelming sense of accomplishment you'll get when you conquer your nemesis. Then it'll be, "hmm, wasn't so bad. Now, when can I do that again, and how can I do it in a bigger gear?"
OR drive to the bottom of the hill ride back up and glide back down to the car. That way you pay before you play.
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So I got my cyclocomputer setup today and took it out for a trip. I was headed down hill and my comp showed I was doing 39mph and I am not sure if thats right. It was a fairly steep hill and I was moving very fast so I was some what confused if it was correct or not. Also the settings were all set correctly for my tire size and its wired so should be no interference.

So is 39mph to fast to be true or is that a regular speed for a down hill run?
Down steep hills I usually do between 40-50mph but I don't hit 50mph often unless I'm pedaling at a good clip.
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Depends on what kind of distance you are talking about. Solo 25 miles in 1 hour on an open road with a normal bike is an excellent time. All those 30+ miles in one hour times that you read about are indoors on a smooth wooden track with special time trial bikes.
Incorrect.

For example in 2006 Cancellara rode 50.8km in 1:00:11.75 at Worlds. That's well over 30mph. If I'm not mistaken all the guys in the Top 20 were above 30mph (that's on the road).

Please correct me if my math is wrong.
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Old 08-17-08 | 06:38 AM
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39?
I can make 34 on flat ground. My ride to the grocery store gets to 42. I've seen the lower 50s. Not sure exactly how fast, I was a little busy hanging on at the time.
+1 One of the drills I work on during my ride returning from the grocery store is I juggle 5 oranges while sprinting out of the saddle at 45...sometimes a bit less into a stiff breeze or if raining and riding uphill. Try it...great for balance.
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Old 08-17-08 | 07:33 AM
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Always wondered what the stopping distance was for a bike doing 30, 40, 50 mph? Downhill and on the flat.
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Always wondered what the stopping distance was for a bike doing 30, 40, 50 mph? Downhill and on the flat.
I can tell you from experience that the stopping distance for a bike doing 50mph downhill is pretty far...
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My fastest "ride" was 26-something for 45 minutes in a crit. Other than crits, I did an 80 mile road race in just over 3 hours for 25.something (ok, so it was one way and there may have been a little wind but there was also a net elevation gain), and 43 mile rolling/slightly hilly road race at 23.4. I think those were pretty fast but not nearly as fast as the guys who won, or the higher categories. FWIW, I was blown out of the water when I found out that the winners of the elite nationals road race did 120 miles at over 26mph.

55mph on a downhill is my personal best, although there is a guy I ride with that has done well over 60 on the same hill. I've tried to get his wheel the last few times we've gone down it together but if he starts from behind me, he goes by so fast that I can't accerlate on. I have to start with him next time.
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I can tell you from experience that the stopping distance for a bike doing 50mph downhill is pretty far...
Sliding distance, likewise.
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Sliding distance, likewise.
I fortunately have not found that one out, but I can tell you that running into the side of a mountain at 30mph stops you pretty fast
And that it is not fun when the brake cable breaks at the bottom of said 50mph descent...
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there's a mile long 5 degree hill about 3 miles from where i live... i've been waning to try it, but, I don't want to climb back up it...
I don't care who you are, that there is FUNNY!!
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I've hit 44 mph then I get sketchy and shut it down. I've already had one crash on a downhill (shale popped my tire) and that's enough for me.

What impresses me more are people going 30+ on flats, that's fast.
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