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Old 08-01-08, 09:20 AM
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Is there an off season in Tennessee ?

If I lived there I'd be riding my ass off every day.

Wait.

I already do that.

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Those last 10 or so pounds can be tricky. Count your cals and reduce by 250-300 per day. Combined with some extra cardio several days per week, you should be able to knock off 5-10 lbs within a month. Restaurants are just bad. I hardly ever eat out and when I do, I'm extremely careful because portions are insane. Spread your meals out to 6 per day. This keeps your metabolism jacked. If your always burning food, its hard to store it. The last thing you ever want to do is not eat or skip meals. Your body goes into conserve or starve mode after 3-4 hours so its best to eat small meals before that happens. Thats why you never ever skip breakfast, because your body has already gone 10-12 hours without food.

I lost 80 pounds in 5 months. It took a total overall of my crappy diet and alot of exercise and dedication. Once your in tune with your body though, it basically tells you what you need. You will want food that you didn't like before once you cut out the crap (fast food, junk food, etc.). Its a whole de-tox process. Dont deprive yourself though, just be smart and count those cals. Once your where you want to be, be sensible and maintain. Weigh yourself several times per week (at the same time) so you know if your slipping. Its like anything else, once its routine, its just part of your life. Didn't mean to ramble- just trying to help!
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Originally Posted by umd
It is more important not to lose power than it is to lose weight. If you try to drop the last bit of weight too quickly you will likely lose power
I once went from 210 lbs to about 164lbs. I didn't lose any power until I was under 168lbs, and then it came back. I'm 5'11", 50 years old

So I wouldn't worry about it until you look as emaciated as I do when I'm that thin.
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I'm 6'0, 160lbs, 8% body fat. I'm working my way to 155. When I initially started losing weight the first 10lbs came off quickly (178 - 168). Since that, the last 8lbs were slow. The next 5lbs will be equally difficult. There is very little room for error. I've found the best time to lose weight is in the off season or early season when most rides are subthreshold. If I attempt to lose weight during the racing season, my high intensity workouts really suffer. My secret to weight loss: tea. I drink tea all the time (herbal without any added sugar or milk). It tastes great and helps stop the urge to eat.
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Originally Posted by EvilGoodGuy
I'm 6'0, 160lbs, 8% body fat. I'm working my way to 155. When I initially started losing weight the first 10lbs came off quickly (178 - 168). Since that, the last 8lbs were slow. The next 5lbs will be equally difficult. There is very little room for error. I've found the best time to lose weight is in the off season or early season when most rides are subthreshold. If I attempt to lose weight during the racing season, my high intensity workouts really suffer. My secret to weight loss: tea. I drink tea all the time (herbal without any added sugar or milk). It tastes great and helps stop the urge to eat.
6' @ 155?

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Originally Posted by EvilGoodGuy
I'm 6'0, 160lbs, 8% body fat. I'm working my way to 155. When I initially started losing weight the first 10lbs came off quickly (178 - 168). Since that, the last 8lbs were slow. The next 5lbs will be equally difficult. There is very little room for error. I've found the best time to lose weight is in the off season or early season when most rides are subthreshold. If I attempt to lose weight during the racing season, my high intensity workouts really suffer. My secret to weight loss: tea. I drink tea all the time (herbal without any added sugar or milk). It tastes great and helps stop the urge to eat.

I'm 6', 162lbs and about 8% bf. My wife and I are really into tea also. I always have a couple of big cups made from loose leaf white tea in the afternoon at work. I'm edging down towards 155 also, but I probably won't make the move until next spring, if at all, after I've had a full winter in the gym working to improve my strength.
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Trying drinking a protein shake for breakfast everyday, increase your fiber by using some flax seed or good fiber capsules and try a supplement like CLA. I have dropped 50 lbs in 6 months 217 to 167. I have seen my average speed and endurance improve dramatically as well.
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Some diet advice I read, and am now adhearing to, is to lose 20% of your weight, as you have, and then stop trying to lose weight and adjust your food intake so that you are maintaining your new weight. Not as satisfying as losing weight each week but it's important to figure out what's going to get you through the winter without feeling like you're starving every day.

Next January go on another diet to lose any remaining pounds. Although at 6'2" and 185 lbs you are within normal weight range.
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
^ How does it compare in ease of use to Fitday.com?
Easier to use, more food items.
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Originally Posted by CharlieWoo
6' @ 155?
Whatever, fatty
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Whatever, fatty
I'm 5'11", and if I were 155 I'd be DEAD. DEAD I say. And I'd still be too fat for this idiot sport.
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Originally Posted by beavertoof
I am 46 years old, 6'2" and started this season at around 205. I was down in the 180's last year, and tried to keep in shape over the winter, but too many big lunches I guess.

Biking in Nashville, out around the Natchez Trace parkway is hills everywhere. I definately noticed the weight on myself on all these climbs, and have made an effort to drop some with some success.

I cut out going to all these great ethnic restuarants around here for lunch (Kurdish, Korean, Lebanese, Thai etc...) and the first 10 lbs came off easy, the next 10... not so easy!

I am hovering around 185-7 now, but feel like I am starving constantly, except for ride days when I load up on pasta.

It has made a HUGE difference in the climbing as last night I flew up a hill on the large sprocket, where in the past I had squeeked up it in my normal climbing gear.

Looking at myself, I know there is another 10 lbs I could drop, but am having trouble imaganing how to do it. Gotta eat enough to have strength for
my 3 weekly rides.

Wondering what other people are doing, any suggestions?
What are you doing the other 4 days? Try to get an additional ~1hr of exercise every day.
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Geeze, some of you are scrawny!

I'm 5'7" and 178 as of this morning. But pretty muscular. I'm down from 205 at the end of April. Just eating the same as I always have, just less of it. Add in 100 miles or more a week = weight loss. I have no idea when the weight loss will end. Or if I'll have to just say "enough already."

I wouldn't mind dropping another 20 or so. I'll just see how it goes.
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Originally Posted by JoelS
Geeze, some of you are scrawny!

I'm 5'7" and 178 as of this morning. But pretty muscular. I'm down from 205 at the end of April. Just eating the same as I always have, just less of it. Add in 100 miles or more a week = weight loss. I have no idea when the weight loss will end. Or if I'll have to just say "enough already."

I wouldn't mind dropping another 20 or so. I'll just see how it goes.
5'9" 140 this morning, up from ~120 a few years ago, but fairly stable now. 300+ miles a week, and I rode 100 miles yesterday
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Originally Posted by beavertoof
Looking at myself, I know there is another 10 lbs I could drop, but am having trouble imaganing how to do it. Gotta eat enough to have strength for my 3 weekly rides.

Wondering what other people are doing, any suggestions?
I think one key to the "last 10" (for me it's the last 5) is teaching your body to burn fat. A guy a work with is on a race training program, and the regimen is lots of endurance miles BELOW ZONE 3. Lots of intervals IN ZONE 5. And some Tempo in zone 3-4.

The intervals build power. The endurance burns fat more so than carbs, and teaches the body to metabolize fat efficiently.

We did a 120 mile ride and he ate about half what I did, and it was all I could do not to bonk. Burning calories and eating less (even on ride day) is the key. but you have to train specifically for it. Which I won't, so my last 5 will be tough.
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Originally Posted by pagliaci
Easier to use, more food items.
It looks pretty slick. I think I am switching over tomorrow.
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Once again thanks for all replies. Lots of ideas now!
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Originally Posted by beavertoof
Lots of ideas now!
Oh Jeez, don't friggin THINK.

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Originally Posted by JoelS
Geeze, some of you are scrawny!

I'm 5'7" and 178 as of this morning. But pretty muscular. I'm down from 205 at the end of April. Just eating the same as I always have, just less of it. Add in 100 miles or more a week = weight loss. I have no idea when the weight loss will end. Or if I'll have to just say "enough already."

I wouldn't mind dropping another 20 or so. I'll just see how it goes.
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Screw hiding. I am running away.... or riding
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At your age and height you are according to an internet search in the 20-25th percentile for weight at 185 lbs. That is very good. You probably aren't losing weight easily because your body doesn't want you any thinner. Don't worry about it and enjoy your rides.

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I guess I am in the same boat as the op: 50 years old, 6'1", 190lbs. I could stand to lose another 10lbs or so and I can really notice the difference in climbing from when I weighed 200.

I am pretty certain that I can get down to 180 any time I want, I would just have to stop drinking beer. Not sure if this will ever happen, however.
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Hi there. I live in Franklin, TN and spend a fair amount of time on the Trace. Great riding around here.

Yeah, I'm 45, 5'10" & 177. Started out at 250 at my peak and 220 since I started cycling. First goal (since I started cycling) was 170. I'm finding the last 10 lbs to be coming off slowly. Once I get there I will see how much fat I still have hanging around and maybe try to lose a few more. I really don't care how quickly it happens at this point though. I look and feel better than I have for 20 years and the weight will take care of itself soon enough. Will probably start doing some light muscle building this "off season" and maybe some jogging or jump rope to maybe stoke the furnace a little higher and get rid of the little bit of flab I have left.

I also switched from fitday.com to thedailyplate.com.

thedailyplate has a much better database. However, the calorie estimates for exercise seem WAY high. I usually fudge them down quite a bit to be more realistic.

Nice to meet you & good luck!
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Originally Posted by CharlieWoo
There is a user on here called Buelito (you still around?) who is my personal hero. The guy is in his mid-50s, is a grandfather, and does long mountain rides on a fixie turning a big gear. He did Ride the Rockies (including Independence gap) on a fixie turning a gear I would hardly turn on the flats. Go to the 50+ forum and search to find his re recap.
Is he still doing this? I thought turning a big gear at low cadences was supposed to be hard on the knees.
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Originally Posted by Skewer
Is he still doing this? I thought turning a big gear at low cadences was supposed to be hard on the knees.
Don't know. He hangs out on the 50+ forum, although he could probably put a hurt on most of the young ens here. Maybe he racks his seat way back. I remember him saying he spends a lot of time out of the saddle.

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