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Pirkaus 05-21-18 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by noodle soup (Post 20352778)
Resto-mod bikes are a touchy subject.

But fun to ride!

noodle soup 05-21-18 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by Pirkaus (Post 20352786)

But fun to ride!

I concur.
I have an 83 Guerciotti with 1991 Campagnolo components. It a joy to ride, and it’s beautiful, but it got panned when I posted it here.


when I get home, I’ll repost it so that I receive a proper whipping.

noodle soup 05-21-18 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by noodle soup (Post 20352778)
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Resto-mod bikes are a touchy subject.



Originally Posted by Pirkaus (Post 20352786)

But fun to ride!

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Originally Posted by noodle soup (Post 20352799)
I concur.
I have an 83 Guerciotti with 1991 Campagnolo components. It a joy to ride, and it’s beautiful, but it got panned when I posted it here.


when I get home, I’ll repost it so that I receive a proper whipping.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4542/...8b99f21e_o.jpg

kbarch 05-21-18 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by noodle soup (Post 20352897)

For some reason, I'm hung up on those pedals, probably because they're white, and I know you could have done so much better. Those pedals, however, are seriously UN-hot. I know that type are probably THE most popular, but they're a real shame. You could have gotten Time Xpresso / Mavic Zxellium pedals, which are so much hotter. If you wanted white, you could have gotten Xpresso 6 instead of those dopey clogs.

Meanwhile, it's unfortunate that they chose yellow for their branding, and you decided to follow through with yellow bar tape. Everything else in silver and that great red was so nice - again, it's a shame the look was ruined with that lurid lettering and tape.


Oh, and why aren't the brake cable housings looping above the bars like they're supposed to?

How's that?

noodle soup 05-21-18 09:01 PM


Originally Posted by kbarch (Post 20353111)
For some reason, I'm hung up on those pedals, probably because they're white, and I know you could have done so much better. Those pedals, however, are seriously UN-hot. I know that type are probably THE most popular, but they're a real shame. You could have gotten Time Xpresso / Mavic Zxellium pedals, which are so much hotter. If you wanted white, you could have gotten Xpresso 6 instead of those dopey clogs.

They are 1984 Look pedals. I know how people hate them, but those actually belong on the bike.



Originally Posted by kbarch (Post 20353111)
Oh, and why aren't the brake cable housings looping above the bars like they're supposed to?

Not possible on those shifters(Gen 1 Ergo-Power)


Originally Posted by kbarch (Post 20353111)
How's that?

B-

f4rrest 05-21-18 10:30 PM


Originally Posted by noodle soup (Post 20353142)
They are 1984 Look pedals. I know how people hate them, but those actually belong on the bike.


Not possible on those shifters(Gen 1 Ergo-Power)

B-

I actually like the yellow, but what do I know?

seau grateau 05-22-18 01:05 AM


Originally Posted by noodle soup (Post 20352897)

I dig, feel like it needs a traditional bend handlebar though.

Timo 2.0 05-22-18 01:36 AM


Originally Posted by redlude97 (Post 20352285)
To me it seems like if you have the knowledge and skill to make a threadless stem adapter, you would have been better off making a period appropriate quill stem that mounts to a modern drop bar. Threadless stems IMO don't look as good on old thin tubing frames

Depends: there's a couple of slim stems which IMO do look good with classic tubes. Syntace F99 (26.0) and F109 (31.8) and the Deda Superleggera (31.8).


Deda...

http://www.italiaanseracefietsen.com...12/derosa2.jpg


Syntace F99...
https://www.pedalroom.com/p/1993-mer...t-19527_11.jpg

Timo 2.0 05-22-18 01:42 AM


Originally Posted by noodle soup (Post 20352897)

​​​​​​​Definitely hot! I've got those pedals in purple waiting for my Campy equipped Peugeot (which is a long-term project)

noodle soup 05-22-18 03:32 AM


Originally Posted by seau grateau (Post 20353306)
I dig, feel like it needs a traditional bend handlebar though.

it would look better, but I chose a more modern bend so that it would have a more comfortable transition to the hoods.

Campag4life 05-22-18 04:22 AM


Originally Posted by Timo 2.0 (Post 20343929)
I think the compact bars further enhance the odd looks. Bars with a bigger drop would aesthetically be more pleasing.

It isn't the bars that makes that royal blue Domane bike look fugly. It is the 'choice' of geometry the OP made with monster head tube and short stem. The owner could have easily sized down for more traditional Domane fit.

Endurance bikes generally aren't going to win the Hot category. Their proportions belie that. But the blue Domane fit is a severe case because of the choice the owner made on geometry. There are endurance bikes out there with 2-3 inches of drop that look pretty good.

Cancellara's Domane with about 4-5 inches of drop he rides in the Paris Roubaix looks hot by contrast below: Custom H1 geometry which he sizes down from.


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1373178c42.jpg

joejack951 05-22-18 05:46 AM


Originally Posted by redlude97 (Post 20352285)
To me it seems like if you have the knowledge and skill to make a threadless stem adapter, you would have been better off making a period appropriate quill stem that mounts to a modern drop bar. Threadless stems IMO don't look as good on old thin tubing frames

Those exist already. Two examples:

Velo Orange: https://velo-orange.com/products/qui...ceplate-31-8mm
Factory Five: https://wearefactoryfive.com/products/titan-stem

The latter is better but still fugly. Both are fairly expensive considering the short comings of each. The VO's angle is awful on a level top top tube frame but at least it comes in multiple lengths. I simply wouldn't trust that Factory Five stem being a full CNC'd part with a weak looking bar clamp design. And it is only available in 90mm length. Both are likely boat anchors. Neither allows for running the handlebars as low as my headset does.

With my headset design, you can pick any stem you like (length, angle, finish) and easily swap it out for something else should the need arise. And if the design is successful enough, what do you think the next item I plan on making is?

joejack951 05-22-18 05:50 AM


Originally Posted by Timo 2.0 (Post 20353323)
Depends: there's a couple of slim stems which IMO do look good with classic tubes. Syntace F99 (26.0) and F109 (31.8) and the Deda Superleggera (31.8).

Deda...

Syntace F99...

Both nice looking stems but is either available in a -17° version, 110mm length, preferably polished silver?

joejack951 05-22-18 05:54 AM


Originally Posted by noodle soup (Post 20352897)

Awkward angle for the photo, really compact bars on a massive frame, and a saddle bag? C'mon, man. No wonder you got whipped last time ;) Nice frame and I love the old Campy levers with it. If the pedals work for you, great but the white finish is even more out of place on that bike than the black crankset is on mine.

Timo 2.0 05-22-18 06:00 AM


Originally Posted by joejack951 (Post 20353449)
Both nice looking stems but is either available in a -17° version, 110mm length, preferably polished silver?

That would require some work but far from impossible. The Syntace F139 was available in -17° but 105mm (easily compensated with bars which have a bit more reach), There are several people who can de-anodise and polish the stem. For example Chris Howard at CycloRetro: https://www.cycloretro.com/pricing

Timo 2.0 05-22-18 06:04 AM


Originally Posted by Campag4life (Post 20353385)
It isn't the bars that makes that royal blue Domane bike look fugly. It is the 'choice' of geometry the OP made with monster head tube and short stem. The owner could have easily sized down for more traditional Domane fit.

Endurance bikes generally aren't going to win the Hot category. Their proportions belie that. But the blue Domane fit is a severe case because of the choice the owner made on geometry. There are endurance bikes out there with 2-3 inches of drop that look pretty good.

Cancellara's Domane with about 4-5 inches of drop he rides in the Paris Roubaix looks hot by contrast below: Custom H1 geometry which he sizes down from.


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1373178c42.jpg

Yup, also note that in addition to the small and stretched frame Cancellara used a long stem and traditional deep, round handlebars without a flat transition from the bars to the top of the levers. A classic setup which I also prefer in the configuration of my own bikes...

https://scontent-ort2-1.cdninstagram...71473152_n.jpg

noodle soup 05-22-18 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by joejack951 (Post 20353450)
Awkward angle for the photo, really compact bars on a massive frame, and a saddle bag? C'mon, man. No wonder you got whipped last time ;) Nice frame and I love the old Campy levers with it. If the pedals work for you, great but the white finish is even more out of place on that bike than the black crankset is on mine.

the worst thing about those pedals is that I also bought the race version back then, but kept these ones.

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/955/2...555a89c5_o.jpg

noodle soup 05-22-18 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by Timo 2.0 (Post 20353456)
There are several people who can de-anodise and polish the stem. For example Chris Howard at CycloRetro: https://www.cycloretro.com/pricing

it's not hard to do. The crankset on the Guerciotti is polished. It took a couple of hours to do, but it's absolutely stunning.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4397/...28bc5b1c_o.jpg

Timo 2.0 05-22-18 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by noodle soup (Post 20353545)
it's not hard to do. The crankset on the Guerciotti is polished. It took a couple of hours to do, but it's absolutely stunning.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4397/...28bc5b1c_o.jpg

Looks good! But did you have to de-anodise them? I've done that a few times (Campagnolo wheels, Scott bars, ZG brakes) but I would be a bit reluctant to de-anodise and polish a lightweight and as such thin-walled stem myself.

noodle soup 05-22-18 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by Timo 2.0 (Post 20353564)
Looks good! But did you have to de-anodise them? I've done that a few times (Campagnolo wheels, Scott bars, ZG brakes) but I would be a bit reluctant to de-anodise and polish a lightweight and as such thin-walled stem myself.

I had to de-anodise them, and sand down some scratches. They looked beat before, so I had to do something.

noodle soup 05-22-18 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by joejack951 (Post 20353450)
Awkward angle for the photo, really compact bars on a massive frame, and a saddle bag? C'mon, man. No wonder you got whipped last time ;)

Here's a different angle. I had to change the water bottle cages for obvious reasons. The yellow tape is a better color match now, after it got some use.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4402/...ba7a1a92_o.jpg

noodle soup 05-22-18 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by Timo 2.0 (Post 20353459)
Yup, also note that in addition to the small and stretched frame Cancellara used a long stem and traditional deep, round handlebars without a flat transition from the bars to the top of the levers. A classic setup which I also prefer in the configuration of my own bikes...

https://scontent-ort2-1.cdninstagram...71473152_n.jpg

Lovely frameset, but oh those French components. I wish I had one of those saddles again. They still make a Turbo, but the faux suede cover blows.

maartendc 05-22-18 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by mbw (Post 20343685)

Thanks for opinions, good or bad. Any thoughts on the cages?

Nice bike, dont let anyone tell you otherwise.

I think personally it would look better with black cages. Let the frame be the frame, and everything else black. Similarly, I think it would look weird with a blue bar tape or blue saddle, you need some contrast in there.

Timo 2.0 05-22-18 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by noodle soup (Post 20353689)
Lovely frameset, but oh those French components. I wish I had one of those saddles again. They still make a Turbo, but the faux suede cover blows.

Luckily the whole bike was technically sound (guess the previous owner hardly rode it before he stored it) so the wretched French headset and BB only needed some new grease. Upgraded the derailleurs to Simplex Super LJ and the brakes to Spidels, added modern brake pads, Suntour bar-end shifters, etc. The wheels have a 10sp Campagnolo cassette because I noticed that the LJ derailleur has enough range (struggles a bit with the biggest cog so it is effectively a 9sp setup but it is an improvement over the old 5sp freewheel) and it is very useful that I can run the wheels from my other bikes in this bike too). Switched the original 52x42 chainrings to a nos 46 and a modified 36 ring (Miche Junior 116 BCD filed out to fit the 118 BCD crank). The saddle is indeed a gem which came with another Peugeot I bought (these leather Turbos in nos condition are usually sold for more than the whole that bike cost me).

joejack951 05-22-18 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by Timo 2.0 (Post 20353456)
That would require some work but far from impossible. The Syntace F139 was available in -17° but 105mm (easily compensated with bars which have a bit more reach), There are several people who can de-anodise and polish the stem. For example Chris Howard at CycloRetro: https://www.cycloretro.com/pricing

I started with a black Kalloy Uno stem, removed the anodizing on the visible sections only (so as not to disturb the critical tolerance on the clamping zones) using a Scotch Brite wheel, then buffed with a cotton wheel and polishing compound. Was a lot of work but I got the results I wanted when off-the-shelf failed to provide it. I didn't do a before and after weight but I tried to keep metal removal to the bare minimum.


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