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The weight for weight's sake thing is so hilarious to me.

I think it might be an OCD thing for the hard core peeps.
I googled OCD, and once I knew what it is, I created a spreadsheet with calculations based on more google search statistics, and have determined that I am DEFINITELY not OCD. Or, a person in denial. Definitely not that. Even if I was, I wouldn't admit it.

I realize I am participating in a total derailing of the thread.
As you were.

Using the posted weights for a 53cm frame, 6700 groupset (shifters, crank, bb, fd, rd, cassette, chain, brakes), all the other obvious stuff, I gave him a cane creek 40 headset, FSA carbon bars, Michelin race lite tubes, and used the weight for my 3T carbon wheels and skewers.

Not counting cages it comes in right at 17lbs.

This doesn't account for the MTB cassette and RD, I don't think those are 6700 shifters, and there is definitely some extra weight in the wheels. I'd say just under 18lbs is probably right.

Still, pretty freakin light for the build.

Deep section carbon wheels are heavy - especially with so many spokes, that big aluminum steer tube on the fork adds a bunch of weight, rim brakes are pretty standard, and carbon bars don't save much weight over aluminum.

If you lose the attitude and exaggeration, people will be a little more forgiving. People like to bully a bully. I'm not sure why you started being a bully, but if you quit all this nonsense will quit. I'd lay low for a bit and come back with commenting Hot or Not for a bit and leave all the exclamation marks out of it.

You seem to forget that you are using a comparatively heavy frame and fork, not-so-light 50mm deep wheels, wide tires, a MTB derailleur and cassette, and a relatively ho-hum build everywhere else. Your wheels weigh nearly 1600 grams for the pair. That's 200 grams more than the wheels on my 16.65 lb. bike with a frame and fork that come in nearly a pound lighter than yours. Ti rails or not, your saddle gives up ~80 grams to a lightweight saddle like the Fizik Arione R1 on my heavier-than-your-claimed bike. I could go on.

Enjoy your bike.

I agree (but still think it's over 18 lbs. all in). The Vortex is very light for a metal frame. I do wonder how long it will last under a nearly 300 lb. cyclist, though.

I check in on this thread from time to time. It appears that MyTi is a shill for the Ti frame industry. The way he is constanting hype beasting ti frames is beyond obsession. If he really wanted to do some actual good for those frames, he would take his act to the Clyde forum. If that bike/build can hold up under his stated weight, then there is a big market for it with the Clydes.

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Why would you assume no pedals?
That weight is as built, which includes pedals.
As stated before, much of the stated weight difference is build choice, so it is not just frameset weight. Again this difference is (at most) 3 pounds.

Time to get off this crazy train.

I don't see how the rejection of a specific color or number of colors indicates good taste, only limited taste. That's a personal matter.
It seems to me that the blue, yellow and gray paint job was both imaginative and well-considered, and on the whole it's quite harmonious - an interesting, down-to-earth and breezy combination of those hues. If you ask me, if he'd gone with the more usual variation of royal blue and gold, or any single color, that would have been less tasteful.

I've seen lots of bikes here that showed little imagination and that aren't to my personal taste, but very few that show a lack of taste (I think we're all aficionados here). And while some may have "offended" my sensibilities, none were really in bad taste (that would be pretty unlikely: maybe blades projecting from the hubs, an exposed motor, a syringe and IV tube coming out of a bottle...).

Ugly bike, though.

Sorry, but it's only a Litespeed. Ti for the masses.

I get the attempt here, it cuts him down an notch and opens a door to potentially post your bike- 2 birds 1 stone right there.

but your dismissive comment that litespeed is titanium for the masses is akin to claiming Cannondale is aluminum for the masses or that trek and specialized are carbon for the masses.

yup- its all correct- they are aluminum and carbon for the masses. Being dismissive of it is absurd though and thats the logical conclusion to your comment.

I think the scale at your shop might be off.

But remember - MyTi has "full rim brakes". People forget that.

You're surprised because you are ignoring the obvious (and continuing to believe that your bike actually weighs 16 lbs., which it does not). One of the reasons canyoneagle's bike is so light is that he is using a light groupset. Chorus is lighter than Ultegra R8000 by over 200 grams (https://ccache.cc/blogs/newsroom/201...ght-comparison). And you don't even have full Ultegra 6700 on your bike, let alone R8000. Your wheels are not light either regardless of the material used to produce the rims.

Spec sheet for the Fuji. 18.3 lbs. Mine was a 60cm so probably heavier, but I put lighter wheels on it, and my scale (which is accurate) showed what it showed, and I have no reason to believe it is wrong.
http://archive.fujibikes.com/archive...modelyear=2012

Top end steel bikes, even in the 80's, were commonly 19.5-21 pounds. Again, do the math. Start with frameset weight and go from there. It's not rocket science. The EL-OS tubeset on my frame (62.5cm) is one of the lighter steel tubesets made, so it only follows that it will result in a relatively light frame. My frame is 4.8 lbs, fork is 1.4. For apples to apples, compare any other frameset with that, and you have your delta, given same build - take the variables out to get a real comparison.

Choose to believe what you want, deny everything else. There is nothing I can do to change that.

Not the vibe you've been putting out thus far, as there's an implied (or obvious) "you are wrong" or "I don't believe you" with most of it.
My mistake was not seeing it for the trolling it is.
You've got a great bike. enjoy it!

Internet mob. I can sense that a lot of people on this forum harbor a rather nasty dislike for you and your posts. I can see it. You pretend to be oblivious. But that's internet for ya.

I came here to see Hot bikes.......

Wrong thread.... Try this one:

https://www.bikeforums.net/road-cycl...titaniums.html

Don't need any sort of door to post my bike. I didn't because it's not hot, just like his ti for the masses ride.

R+E Cycles in Seattle can build a 13.5 lb steel road bike.

https://rodbikes.com/catalog/outlaw/outlaw-main.html

True Temper S3 tubing isn't cheap. I have a 15.9 lb fixed gear built from the stuff.


-Tim-