Sweet!!!!

My 84 56cm Lotus Legend Compe/Columbus SL frame/fork weighed 6.12lbs on the post office scales with the headset and BB installed. Same for the rest of my old steel frames/forks. They are within 1.5lbs of the Lotus. They all were weighed with their stock headsets/BBs still installed. People talk about how much lighter the carbon frames are. You are not going to save much without light components.

Possible reasons for someone to choose steel over ti.

- specific geometry for a handbuilt bike. Steel is typically less expensive, even handbuilt and the geometry will match the rider instead of off the peg ti frames.
- classic look. Some like the traditional and OS sized steel tubes compared to the typically larger ti tubes.
- traditional construction. Some like the look of lugged frames and dont want welds.
- negligible weight difference. Some dont care about the pound or whatever difference between quality steel and stock titanium frames.
- cost. Typically, steel frames cost less than titanium.

There are 5 real possible reasons. So now you know they very much exist(you already did, but thats another issue) and can stop asking why someone has a steel frame when titanium is lighter.
Read the reasons, commit them to memory, and stop asking.

No, people want you off here because you keep derailing the thread and posting nonsense.

:rolleyes:



Where do you think the titanium used for your bike came from?

60 or 80 lbs overweight. Drops kitted out 50 year olds like they're standing still. Rides $300.00 carbon clinchers from Amazon. Enemy of the big carbon sales teams that want him off of bikeforums. Champion of the slaves that built nearly everybody elses bikes. Truth teller.

Oh, I almost forgot about the carbon fork and full rim brakes. People forget about the carbon fork and full rim brakes.



EDIT: You must also be trying to keep out of the spotlight of big hot bike. You know, the ones that push this whole "aesthetically pleasing bike" thing. I only say this because your bike is not hot.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7301c0d833.jpg
I will get the thread back on track. This bike will not get a hot because it is old and basically is the opposite of what the thread is about. Heck, I don't even have a garage door in the photo. But, just for MyTi, this bike weighs 21.5 as it is. That includes the stealth triple, the big A cassette, the heavy saddle and those pedals.

Are those old Lyotard pedals, or modern replicas?

That saddle is heavy, but it's a great shape.

The pedals are MKS Urban designed on the style of the Lyotard you are talking about. The saddle is a brand new Selle Turbo. They are reselling the old style. I bought 2 of them on a sale last year for about $35 each. Slapped it on and did a century. That is why I ride those old style saddles. Who cares how much they weigh. It usually has 52/42/30 rings and a smaller cassette. I am a bad climber, probably the worst on BF. That is the SOTR ride setup. A 50/36/28 crankset and bigger cassette on the back.

Rotate those bars up a bit and they'll probably be more comfortable.

I ride plenty in the drops. To be honest though, that setup came about as a mistake. As is tradition with me and some of the others in C & V, we fix up a different bike each year and ride SOTR. I got the bike finished for the ride, did a shakedown ride to see everything worked, then threw it in my car the night before the drive to the ride. I forgot about adjusting the bars before the ride and it was perfect. So, they have stayed the same since.

Easily recognizing unreasonableness is not in his wheelhouse.

16lb 32oz, to be precise.

:innocent:

Take it outside, guys! ;)

And now for a random bike pic: hot or not?https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...94fd1b9b0d.jpg

That saddle makes it a not.

Is that dazzle urban camo that Tim is always talking about?

Do you think that the titanium used for your frame was made in the USA?

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1853/...027d05d6_c.jpg

Orbea something or other kids road bike. 24" wheels, came with 7 speed Sora mix which was upgraded to full Tiagra 4700 with Schwalbe One wheelchair tires (fastest/lightest tire option in the ISO 540mm size) for a small adult cyclist. Stock rims were rebuilt with Shimano 105 hubs and double butted Sapim spokes. Rear hub was a tight squeeze into the 126mm dropouts supported by super-short chainstays. Soma Thick & Zesty bar tape, Specialized Body Geometry women's saddle, and SPD pedals (by request). This is the only assembled pic I have of the bike but I know you will all love it.

:lol:
Nah, but maybe sunlight coming in under the trees, shortly after sunrise makes it look that way. ;)

For a kid's bike, that is beyond hot! That turquoise bar tape is brilliant.

that saddle and tape makes it look bad, but that is a real beauty

For a junior racer, this is a hot bike.I think yellow or black bar tape would take it up a notch. Not feeling the green, though I get the gist

It's not warm. It is white hot. As much as I love ti bikes, my second one arrives tomorrow, ti bikes are ugly. Your bike is ugly. And I don't say that lightly. Bare ti, either polished or milled is a half step above hideous. One of the things I like about it is that it's so ugly it will be less of a theft target. There's really nothing hot about it at all. I won't be posting mine here for the masses to comment on. I already know what people think about ti bikes. They think like I do, and they are right.

No matter how much you argue your points, you won't sway anyone towards ti. You may in fact sway them away. This seems like a good time to remind the readership that there are some normal people who love ti, so don't hold this against all of us.