^^ LOL. The Dale is hot, I just want some color on it. Throw on some stupid neon water bottles or something.

not even 2 weeks ago you liked the "all black look", and now it's boring? Also - you seem to denigrate Chinese parts, but advocate $300.00 carbon wheels you got on Amazon that are "just as good" as $3000.00 Zipps. Which is it?

Saltyyyyy.

Oh - the Cannondale is hot

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Ok fine I'll follow the narrative. That black chinese carbon frame is super hot and sexy with the slammed stem, and carefully placed valve stems to conform with the standards in this thread. I especially love the high seat post aggressive look it makes it look so fast standing still. Love the gear choice as well when the bike is not moving, that's the gear Hushovd starts in at a stand still on a HC category climb. It's a very unique black carbon bike, never seen anything like it. A cannondale marketing exec would be very proud of that picture.

Its "HC climb". Not "HC category climb". The "C" in "HC" stands for "categorie". As in "hors categorie", which means "beyond category". So, you don't say "man, Thor Hushovd just did 400 watts up a beyond category category climb!" If you did, you would look really, really stupid, and I'm sure you don't want to look really, really stupid.


edit: the more you post, the homlier your poor bike gets. That poor, poor bike.

he mad

his saddle is no higher than yours, and the drop to the bars is about normal for fit cyclists that aren't geriatric.

I can't find one thing hot about this bike.

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Seatpost height is literally dictated by leg length, it's not a "look".

"Slammed" stems get the rider into a more aerodynamic position, which is faster (kinda the entire purpose of a road bike).

Sometimes it's more aero, sure. Other times it puts the drops out of useful reach.

Bianchi10's bars aren't ridiculously low. MyTi is just attacking other bikes, because his got panned.

This is an over simplified response. Sorry but the 'look' is how high the saddle raises above the top tube. One can choose to ride a classic steel bike and the seat will be lower over the top tube than a Giant compact type frame at a given BB to saddle distance. That is a look you can choose. Also you can choose in a given frame to go with a medium sized frame with a longer saddle to bars distance with either longer stem or bars with a longer reach. Or you can choose to go with a large sized frame and have shorter stem or less reach bars. This this case the medium frame will have the look of a higher seat height over the top tube than the large with a given BB to saddle height.

The majority of slammed stems I've seen are for the look, and the riders can't hold a 90 degree elbow bend on the hoods with flat forearms for more than a min at a time which is the most aerodynamic position. But I do love the look of a slammed stem

That's still a lot of seatpost showing for an older bike. Just an observation, not a critique.

Fair game, IMO if the stem is slammed. I used to ride with a similar saddle-bar drop, which in the olden days meant alot of seatpost. My old steed. My neck would not be able to handle it now that I'm older. It doesn't look like it, but the stem is as far as the curve would allow.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8f3787c8e5.jpg

I can with my slammed stem and so called "High" seat post, its how I was fitted and how I race

I don't know why but this killed me :roflmao: I'm happy this thread devolved into its former glory.

That Marinoni is spot on.. Chrome chainstay + skinwalls is such a classic touch for a modern road ride.

Even without holding a 90 deg elbow bend, it's still more aero as the back and head is lower. And the rider has the option of going lower by bending the elbows as needed.

for a given torso angle that a rider can hold, a 90 degree bend is more aero is the point, but most riders ime dont use this position very much. Racers yes, but the average slammed stem on a group ride arms are straight even when on the front pulling.

That Schwinn is sticking in my head, love it. Great way to modernize it flows perfectly IMO

On the whole "look" of slammed stems: I'm of the opinion that one or two little spacers is a good thing, appearance-wise, because with none at all, a bike can wind up looking not merely lean, but sort of emaciated. If it's not clearly a race bike, it just looks mean in a cheap way, just like a big stack of spacers looks silly on a race bike.

Yeah, and if the older bike still has the body to show a lot of seatpost, more power to it. We all should be so fortunate. :)