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John HP 09-11-18 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by canyoneagle (Post 20553124)
Fair game, IMO if the stem is slammed. I used to ride with a similar saddle-bar drop, which in the olden days meant alot of seatpost. My old steed. My neck would not be able to handle it now that I'm older. It doesn't look like it, but the stem is as far as the curve would allow.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8f3787c8e5.jpg

I dig it. Reminds me of my first Tommasini. Hot even with the yellow tires. ;)

canyoneagle 09-11-18 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by John HP (Post 20559754)
I dig it. Reminds me of my first Tommasini. Hot even with the yellow tires. ;)

..... and despite the crappy color balance of the photo ;)

MyTi 09-11-18 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 20557243)
The pic was taken in '99.

Looks better with red but I don't get the yellow. Yellow and red is definitely a specialized taste. I'm not a huge fan of classic looking bikes to begin with due to the quill stem. I'm sure it rides great though and that is the most important thing.


Originally Posted by growlerdinky (Post 20556995)
your bike still sucks.

Ok that is straight trolling. At least some constructive criticism as to why my bike sucks would be nice. I got a lot of compliments on my bike. It's American made titanium after all and weighs less than most 3k carbon bikes in the shop. Not sure if serious but do tell since trolling is allowed here.

cat0020 09-11-18 03:10 PM

I think this thread is far from "being nice".
Observed, majority of the posts are just criticizing without any understanding of utility and purpose; disguised as "opinion".
Bicycling is about utility, but whatever the utility or purpose that you display your bike in this thread; there are those who just want to criticize and ***** allover it without any constructive input whatsoever.

Caliwild 09-11-18 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by John HP (Post 20559754)
I dig it. Reminds me of my first Tommasini. Hot even with the yellow tires. ;)

+1

Would almost prefer that it was a true pink! HOT!

noodle soup 09-11-18 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by cat0020 (Post 20560015)
I think this thread is far from "being nice".
Observed, majority of the posts are just criticizing without any understanding of utility and purpose; disguised as "opinion".
Bicycling is about utility, but whatever the utility or purpose that you display your bike in this thread; there are those who just want to criticize and ***** allover it without any constructive input whatsoever.

I think you are missing the point of the thread altogether.

It’s “Hot or Not”, not “this is my bike, tell me how much you love it”.

canyoneagle 09-11-18 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by MyTi (Post 20559889)
Looks better with red but I don't get the yellow. Yellow and red is definitely a specialized taste. I'm not a huge fan of classic looking bikes to begin with due to the quill stem. I'm sure it rides great though and that is the most important thing.

I hear ya. I went with yellow (keep in mind this was 20 years ago) to match the decals, though white would have been a better choice for the bars/saddle, with black/skinwall tires. The white would've tied in with the art on the top tube.

I miss that bike - to date, the best riding bike I've owned or ridden.
I hold high hopes for my current project, which has the same Columbus EL-OS tubing, and is a "proper" size for me (no more mile of seatpost with radical drop to the bars) 62.5 c-c....
The frame is still in transit from Europe. 1990 custom race build - it'll need a little refurbishing before I build it up.

Building the wheels this week, and have most of my build kit on hand - going Chorus 11.
Wheelset will be H Plus Son Archetype on Record hubs (both black) with polished Sapim cx-ray spokes and alloy nipples. Should be a good ride. I'll post here for scrutiny when I'm done.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...999dd82e19.jpg

canyoneagle 09-11-18 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by Caliwild (Post 20560037)
+1

Would almost prefer that it was a true pink! HOT!

I would imagine Ullrich would approve ;)

WhyFi 09-11-18 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by noodle soup (Post 20560051)
I think you are missing the point of the thread altogether.

It’s “Hot or Not”, not “this is my bike, tell me how much you love it”.

Ugh - why am I not surprised that you would completely miss the beautiful utility of gappy, uneven bar tap. :notamused:

cat0020 09-11-18 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by noodle soup (Post 20560051)
I think you are missing the point of the thread altogether.

It’s “Hot or Not”, not “this is my bike, tell me how much you love it”.


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 20560086)
Ugh - why am I not surprised that you would completely miss the beautiful utility of gappy, uneven bar tap. :notamused:

Case in point, you want to be entitled to your opinion; same applies to others.
Your posts have nothing to contribute, in my opinion, they don't need to be in this thread.

WhyFi 09-11-18 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by cat0020 (Post 20560221)
Case in point, you want to be entitled to your opinion; same applies to others.
Your posts have nothing to contribute, in my opinion, they don't need to be in this thread.

Dude, chill - I'm going to bat for you. Soon enough, we'll have everybody appreciating how useful it is to be able to see lever clamp bands through the bar tape gaps and guys like Soupy over there will have to eat crow when it's virtually impossible to get a "Hot" without minding the gap.

joejack951 09-11-18 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by canyoneagle (Post 20559522)
Very nicely done. I love the look of the bike - the stem/bar finishes it off beautifully.

You would like a red and yellow bike, eh ;)


Originally Posted by Reeses (Post 20559709)
Hot but needs campy bro what are you doin!?

I hear ya, but...While the 660 is a nice frame, it isn't that nice. As much as it would be fun to make this build into something really special (and believe me I've contemplated it quite often) I think the prudent course of action is to wait for THE frame to show up and make that the frame I decorate with all the goodies. The best thing that came out of this frame was the inspiration to make the threadless conversion headset. I've had my fun with restoring as much of the original catalog appearance as possible without going nuts spending money. A classic silver crank, hard anodized rims with polished hubs, brown hoods, new paint and decals, etc. all would be really cool to get me even closer to this but modern:

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1885/...e7aaed5f_c.jpg

noodle soup 09-11-18 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 20560287)
Dude, chill - I'm going to bat for you. Soon enough, we'll have everybody appreciating how useful it is to be able to see lever clamp bands through the bar tape gaps and guys like Soupy over there will have to eat crow when it's virtually impossible to get a "Hot" without minding the gap.

:cry::cry::cry:

Stop picking on me.

MyTi 09-12-18 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by canyoneagle (Post 20560056)
I hear ya. I went with yellow (keep in mind this was 20 years ago) to match the decals, though white would have been a better choice for the bars/saddle, with black/skinwall tires. The white would've tied in with the art on the top tube.

I miss that bike - to date, the best riding bike I've owned or ridden.
I hold high hopes for my current project, which has the same Columbus EL-OS tubing, and is a "proper" size for me (no more mile of seatpost with radical drop to the bars) 62.5 c-c....
The frame is still in transit from Europe. 1990 custom race build - it'll need a little refurbishing before I build it up.

Building the wheels this week, and have most of my build kit on hand - going Chorus 11.
Wheelset will be H Plus Son Archetype on Record hubs (both black) with polished Sapim cx-ray spokes and alloy nipples. Should be a good ride. I'll post here for scrutiny when I'm done.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...999dd82e19.jpg

all this for heavy steel. Get yourself some Ti.

joejack951 09-12-18 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by canyoneagle (Post 20560056)
I hear ya. I went with yellow (keep in mind this was 20 years ago) to match the decals, though white would have been a better choice for the bars/saddle, with black/skinwall tires. The white would've tied in with the art on the top tube.

I miss that bike - to date, the best riding bike I've owned or ridden.
I hold high hopes for my current project, which has the same Columbus EL-OS tubing, and is a "proper" size for me (no more mile of seatpost with radical drop to the bars) 62.5 c-c....
The frame is still in transit from Europe. 1990 custom race build - it'll need a little refurbishing before I build it up.

Building the wheels this week, and have most of my build kit on hand - going Chorus 11.
Wheelset will be H Plus Son Archetype on Record hubs (both black) with polished Sapim cx-ray spokes and alloy nipples. Should be a good ride. I'll post here for scrutiny when I'm done.

What's your handlebar/stem combo plan? We may need to talk...This will be an awesome build.

canyoneagle 09-12-18 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by joejack951 (Post 20561004)
What's your handlebar/stem combo plan? We may need to talk...This will be an awesome build.

I have a NOS 3TTT Evol stem on hand, and NOS Nitto M106NAS bar coming from Japan. I'm open to other options for sure. PM if you'd like - we can take the conversation off hot-r-not

canyoneagle 09-12-18 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by MyTi (Post 20560999)


all this for heavy steel. Get yourself some Ti.

;)

joejack951 09-12-18 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by MyTi (Post 20560999)
all this for heavy steel. Get yourself some Ti.

It's hard to tell which cheek is a deeper shade of crimson. They both look pretty raw from here.

Butt seriously, perhaps it's time to move on.

growlerdinky 09-12-18 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by MyTi (Post 20559889)
Ok that is straight trolling. At least some constructive criticism as to why my bike sucks would be nice. I got a lot of compliments on my bike. It's American made titanium after all and weighs less than most 3k carbon bikes in the shop. Not sure if serious but do tell since trolling is allowed here.

I just think your bike is ugly. It's the "Not" poster child. Hodge podge of mismatched parts, a stack of spacers... just remembering it makes me throw up in my mouth a little, but have fun dropping 50 year olds on it, or whatever you do.

WhyFi 09-12-18 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by growlerdinky (Post 20561084)
I just think your bike is ugly. It's the "Not" poster child. Hodge podge of mismatched parts, a stack of spacers... just remembering it makes me throw up in my mouth a little, but have fun dropping 50 year olds on it, or whatever you do.

I know that many think of Ti as a "forever" frame material, but even if the bike is an uggo, I wouldn't drop anything heavy on the frame, let alone a 50-year old.

noodle soup 09-12-18 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by MyTi (Post 20560999)

Get yourself some Ti.

Yeah Ti frames last forever.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1855/...b4f18c8e_o.jpg

MyTi 09-12-18 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by growlerdinky (Post 20561084)
I just think your bike is ugly. It's the "Not" poster child. Hodge podge of mismatched parts, a stack of spacers... just remembering it makes me throw up in my mouth a little, but have fun dropping 50 year olds on it, or whatever you do.


Ha, Good I'll be sure to post more pics so you might choke on your vomit next time. You are just making me like my bike more.


Look I could call any chinese carbon made frame chinese cookie cutter crap and I wouldn't be wrong and, but it would just be my honest opinion. I could call any steel lugged frame a boat anchor, and I could call a colnago frame for what it is, a steel boat anchor that's nicely crafted, but doesn't measure up to a nicely crafted Ti frame that is much lighter.


So considering that I can do that here, your opinion is fair play and within the boundaries of the thread guideline. You give fair reasons that have been pointed out already without the vomiting of course. I guess you lose control of bodily functions as you get older. I will keep dropping 50 years olds and guys like you every day of the week especially the ones that claim to go 27mph "sitting in." What I think this is, is backlash for making fun of the retired group claiming to go 27mph sitting in. It they are going 27mph sitting in, and they are all 50 and up, that means the guy up front is pulling almost 500 watts. No 50 year old is going to maintain 500 watts for prolonged periods like they were claiming. If I offended you for calling them out on their BS, I don't care. Just leave my litespeed out of this. All bikes are a hodge podge of overpriced chinese parts, stop drinking the koolaid.


But I will buy a new group as this drivetrain wears out maybe a few years down the road. I'm thinking full Deore XT mountain drivetrain if that'll make you vomit more lol.

chainwhip 09-12-18 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by noodle soup (Post 20561218)

Somebody musta dropped a 50 year old on it.

growlerdinky 09-12-18 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by MyTi (Post 20561244)
Ha, Good I'll be sure to post more pics so you might choke on your vomit next time. You are just making me like my bike more.


Look I could call any chinese carbon made frame chinese cookie cutter crap and I wouldn't be wrong and, but it would just be my honest opinion. I could call any steel lugged frame a boat anchor, and I could call a colnago frame for what it is, a steel boat anchor that's nicely crafted, but doesn't measure up to a nicely crafted Ti frame that is much lighter.


So considering that I can do that here, your opinion is fair play and within the boundaries of the thread guideline. You give fair reasons that have been pointed out already without the vomiting of course. I guess you lose control of bodily functions as you get older. I will keep dropping 50 years olds and guys like you every day of the week especially the ones that claim to go 27mph "sitting in." What I think this is, is backlash for making fun of the retired group claiming to go 27mph sitting in. It they are going 27mph sitting in, and they are all 50 and up, that means the guy up front is pulling almost 500 watts. No 50 year old is going to maintain 500 watts for prolonged periods like they were claiming. If I offended you for calling them out on their BS, I don't care. Just leave my litespeed out of this. All bikes are a hodge podge of overpriced chinese parts, stop drinking the koolaid.


But I will buy a new group as this drivetrain wears out maybe a few years down the road. I'm thinking full Deore XT mountain drivetrain if that'll make you vomit more lol.

:thumb:

LAJ 09-12-18 10:38 AM

As said in the first opening post, a "Hot" or a "Not" is all that's to be posted. This isn't a trolling thread, as mentioned, nor is it a "you're mean, so I'll be meaner" thread.

Straighten up and fly right.


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