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Homebrew01 09-12-18 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by joejack951 (Post 20559051)
The frame may be older but it has modern shifters with a flat transition from bar to hoods and a shallow drop. Standard hand position BITD was the drops. Standard today is the hoods. To get the hoods as low as the drops he is probably riding a frame one size smaller than typical (typical being vintage frame with downtube shifters and old school drops) hence the extra seatpost. My retro-mod roadie (previously posted) is similar:

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/904/2...57cb0b0b_c.jpg

Nice. But would be better with a more classic look crankset, IMO

MyTi 09-12-18 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by LAJ (Post 20561369)
As said in the first opening post, a "Hot" or a "Not" is all that's to be posted. This isn't a trolling thread, as mentioned, nor is it a "you're mean, so I'll be meaner" thread.

Straighten up and fly right.

I think American made 6-4 Ti bikes which have a superior level of craftsmanship and are essentially, works of art, should be exempt from baseless criticism. It's border line treason and something I have pondered calling my congressman about. We should be proud of American made bike frames. I've said my peace in that regard.

At the same token I don't think people should complain when I criticize a bike with blunt honesty as well. For some reason after I began being more honest and critical people start bringing up my bike again that I posted weeks ago.

seau grateau 09-12-18 12:05 PM

Blah blah blah.

joejack951 09-12-18 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by Homebrew01 (Post 20561429)
Nice. But would be better with a more classic look crankset, IMO

Thanks, 100% agree. Donations of such a crankset (172.5mm arms, ideally 50/34, 11 speed compatible, BSA BB obviously) are graciously accepted. I'm done spending money on this bike.

TimothyH 09-12-18 12:09 PM

Not hot.

0/10. Would not ride.



Originally Posted by noodle soup (Post 20561218)


MyTi 09-12-18 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by noodle soup (Post 20561218)

that even your bike? For all we know he ran it into a 50 year old truck.

mstateglfr 09-12-18 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by joejack951 (Post 20561004)
What's your handlebar/stem combo plan? We may need to talk...This will be an awesome build.

Ive eyed that fantastic piece of creativity for a few of my older bikes. Really impressive work on the threadless conversion design.

mstateglfr 09-12-18 01:27 PM

should be interesting to read comments...
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1899/...c4a893db_o.jpg

Handbuilt with Columbus Zona tubes. Ultegra shifting, Praxis Zayante crank, and Ritchey cockpit.
That 32mm stack of spacers is just reality, even though its built to fit me.

joejack951 09-12-18 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by mstateglfr (Post 20561684)
Ive eyed that fantastic piece of creativity for a few of my older bikes. Really impressive work on the threadless conversion design.

:thumb:

Headsets are ready when you are ;)

seau grateau 09-12-18 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by mstateglfr (Post 20561721)
should be interesting to read comments...
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1899/...c4a893db_o.jpg

Handbuilt with Columbus Zona tubes. Ultegra shifting, Praxis Zayante crank, and Ritchey cockpit.
That 32mm stack of spacers is just reality, even though its built to fit me.

Wouldn't call it hot, but super nice. I'd like to see it with silver components.

mstateglfr 09-12-18 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by seau grateau (Post 20561769)
Wouldn't call it hot, but super nice.

My bike is the reliable asexual friend to the female lead in so many rom-coms.

I can accept it firmly being in the friend zone.

growlerdinky 09-12-18 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by mstateglfr (Post 20561782)
My bike is the reliable asexual friend to the female lead in so many rom-coms.

I can accept it firmly being in the friend zone.


nice

WhyFi 09-12-18 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by mstateglfr (Post 20561721)
should be interesting to read comments...
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1899/...c4a893db_o.jpg

Handbuilt with Columbus Zona tubes. Ultegra shifting, Praxis Zayante crank, and Ritchey cockpit.
That 32mm stack of spacers is just reality, even though its built to fit me.

I rarely find tall bikes to be hot and this is no exception. It's nice, but yeah.... not hot. Not a fan of the saddle, either, and I bet that those Archetypes don't look as good any more (I built a wheelset with them, too - really liked the rims, but the brake track wear bugged me. Now that I'm on discs, I'll probably do a Hydra build some time).

And is that Fourmile Creek?!

canyoneagle 09-12-18 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by mstateglfr (Post 20561721)
should be interesting to read comments...
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1899/...c4a893db_o.jpg

Handbuilt with Columbus Zona tubes. Ultegra shifting, Praxis Zayante crank, and Ritchey cockpit.
That 32mm stack of spacers is just reality, even though its built to fit me.

Nice bike.
Saddle and spacers detract from the ever-subjective "hot" points.
Black saddle would make a big difference. Or white saddle/bar tape. I think that would be better.
Beautiful bike.

mstateglfr 09-12-18 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 20561822)
I rarely find tall bikes to be hot and this is no exception. It's nice, but yeah.... not hot. Not a fan of the saddle, either, and I bet that those Archetypes don't look as good any more (I built a wheelset with them, too - really liked the rims, but the brake track wear bugged me. Now that I'm on discs, I'll probably do a Hydra build some time).

And is that Fourmile Creek?!

Yeah- tall bikes arent usually beauties. A 54-56cm frame is what I usually think is about perfect when it comes to having the 'right' look.
The Archetype rims are in great condition- i have em on my gravel bike too and the track wear hasnt been an issue. Ive read its a complaint, like you mention.

As for 4mi Creek...is that some good EXIF searching on your part or do you actually know it?

WhyFi 09-12-18 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by mstateglfr (Post 20561892)
Yeah- tall bikes arent usually beauties. A 54-56cm frame is what I usually think is about perfect when it comes to having the 'right' look.
The Archetype rims are in great condition- i have em on my gravel bike too and the track wear hasnt been an issue. Ive read its a complaint, like you mention.

As for 4mi Creek...is that some good EXIF searching on your part or do you actually know it?

You left location services on. Just don't post a photo from your garage or I'll come down and steal your stuff ;)

mstateglfr 09-12-18 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by canyoneagle (Post 20561856)
Nice bike.
Saddle and spacers detract from the ever-subjective "hot" points.
Black saddle would make a big difference. Or white saddle/bar tape. I think that would be better.
Beautiful bike.

Agreed on the saddle- a Brooks c17 is not the sleek and waif style of saddle that is usually on hot bikes. But it rocks for comfort.

I had a Serfas Spector(sleek design and less than half the weight of a c17) on for about 300mi and while it was nice, it wasnt perfect. I could ride 3hr nonstop before I started to disagree with the Serfas. Meanwhile, I can ride 5hr nonstop with the c17 and dont even think about it, then jump back on and keep riding without issue.

Ill use the Spector on my trainer this winter and try again on the bike next season to see if I magically like it past a few hours.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1851/...bd9fde40_o.png

kbarch 09-12-18 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by mstateglfr (Post 20561782)
My bike is the reliable asexual friend to the female lead in so many rom-coms.

I can accept it firmly being in the friend zone.

It has a nice personality, and character. :)
The saddle doesn't bother me, the spacers - just a little. Bikes that are much taller than average in my book just look gangling - this one is OK, but pushing it. Not sure what to make of the paint job, but I think it's sufficiently eye-catching to help one ignore things that might be annoying otherwise (like the homely group and cages, and would-be gangling-ness, maybe ).

Kimmo 09-12-18 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by mstateglfr (Post 20561721)
should be interesting to read comments...
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1899/...c4a893db_o.jpg

It'd be verging on hot with a black seat and a nicer looking crankset.

noodle soup 09-12-18 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by LAJ (Post 20561369)
As said in the first opening post, a "Hot" or a "Not" is all that's to be posted. This isn't a trolling thread, as mentioned, nor is it a "you're mean, so I'll be meaner" thread.

Straighten up and fly right.

The very next post violates the request made by you, but so does nearly every post since you told us to reply with "Hot" or "Not" only.


Originally Posted by Homebrew01 (Post 20561429)
Nice. But would be better with a more classic look crankset, IMO

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MyTi 09-13-18 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by mstateglfr (Post 20561721)
should be interesting to read comments...
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1899/...c4a893db_o.jpg

Handbuilt with Columbus Zona tubes. Ultegra shifting, Praxis Zayante crank, and Ritchey cockpit.
That 32mm stack of spacers is just reality, even though its built to fit me.

Ok why steel and not custom Ti? I like the spacers, just 2mm more than mine...very good job there. Excellent saddle to bar height on this one, it's almost perfect. I think it sets the standard on how people should have their saddle relative to their bars. I do like the colors but the two tone gives me that 70s vibe....but it's very unique. What tire size you running? If it was all orange or all white I think it would look better but it's a good looking bike as is.

BillyD 09-13-18 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by growlerdinky (Post 20561084)
I just think your bike is ugly. It's the "Not" poster child. Hodge podge of mismatched parts, a stack of spacers... just remembering it makes me throw up in my mouth a little, but have fun dropping 50 year olds on it, or whatever you do.


Originally Posted by MyTi (Post 20561519)
At the same token I don't think people should complain when I criticize a bike with blunt honesty as well. For some reason after I began being more honest and critical people start bringing up my bike again that I posted weeks ago.


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 20561157)
I know that many think of Ti as a "forever" frame material, but even if the bike is an uggo, I wouldn't drop anything heavy on the frame, let alone a 50-year old.


Originally Posted by noodle soup (Post 20562759)
The very next post violates the request made by you, but so does nearly every post since you told us to reply with "Hot" or "Not" only.

http://i.imgur.com/iQbEY6I.gif

Ok so I'll be more clear. I don't care who started it or where it started, enough with the friction.

mstateglfr 09-13-18 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by MyTi (Post 20563395)
Ok why steel and not custom Ti?

Because I wanted steel.
And because it was possible for me to learn to build by brazing steel, but I wouldnt have been able to weld titanium.

Titanium bikes are neat but too plain for me. With that said, if I had $6k just lying around, i would give a serious look at Firefly due to the anodizing or Holland's Exogrid. Those are the 2 titanium frames I have seen that are visually interesting.
But again- i couldnt have built the bike if it were made with titanium tubes.

Paul Barnard 09-13-18 01:17 PM

I am not one who is given over to much drama, but bear with me on this one please. I am a long time loyal follower of this thread. It is extraordinarily rare that a true work of art finds its way onto these pages. Whether factory, custom or a build of your own, the net effect of the volumes of pictures here is really a collective yawn. Sure, sometimes you see a bike that makes you think "oh, that's nice." But how often does a bike appear that makes you feel its presence on a visceral level? Brace yourselves, as one is shortly forthcoming. You know the way you feel when you draw in the beauty of the Hope Diamond in the Smithsonian? It's not an intellectual process. You soak it in on an emotional, spiritual even, level. Let me ask this of you. As you pen your comments please temper your praise in deference to the very many who have come before me and failed. As soon as the postal carrier delivers the last part of this masterpiece this afternoon, and I carefully mount it to the bike with the skill of a true craftsman, I will treat you to a feast for your eyes.

nycphotography 09-13-18 01:19 PM

Incoming!!


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