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Old 12-26-13, 05:34 AM
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True enough. This is pretty much the saddle position I was put in but I have played with tilt some and I'm sure I've messed up position on rails a trifle. Stem length, spacers, and stem flip is more what I've done
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Well, I've never posted this bike in here knowing how it would probably fare. But now I think my ego is strong enough, plus I just put these exceedingly hot wheels on (they ride nicely too). I also figure that most of you are fairly liquored up on Egg Nog!

Pics are from just after today's short ride, the joys of the job skiing/boarding in the morning and ride in the afternoon.





Bike fit before carbon wheels..

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Originally Posted by Germany_chris
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Bike fit has been done (I'm a fit junky), but will need to be tweaked as I get stronger and learn to spend more time in the drops.

Ouch that "not" stings but I know I brought it on myself!
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Nice Trek. Seems like everyone and their dog is making carbon wheels these days. Rail? The setback post doesn't bother me too much. If you need it for your fit then so be it.

If you wanted to improve the pic you could use shallow depth of field to blur out the back ground. You'd use a longer lens with wider aperture (which would bump your shutter speed up as well which is generally a good thing too).
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Old 12-26-13, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ravenmore
Nice Trek. Seems like everyone and their dog is making carbon wheels these days. Rail? The setback post doesn't bother me too much. If you need it for your fit then so be it.

If you wanted to improve the pic you could use shallow depth of field to blur out the back ground. You'd use a longer lens with wider aperture (which would bump your shutter speed up as well which is generally a good thing too).
Hey @ravenmore, thanks for the advice! As luck would have it I just bought my wife a nice camera as she's getting into photography, literally unpacked it yesterday so hoping to learn more about the settings, lenses, etc.
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I like the trek too except for the saddle/seatpost position appearance
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Hey @ravenmore, thanks for the advice! As luck would have it I just bought my wife a nice camera as she's getting into photography, literally unpacked it yesterday so hoping to learn more about the settings, lenses, etc.
Sure no problem. Easiest way to do it would be to use your longest lens and then put the camera in aperture priority automatic mode (its usually marked 'A' on the mode dial). Set it to the widest aperture (lower numbers = wider) and it will automatically pick the corresponding shutter speed for you.
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Originally Posted by robbyville
Bike fit has been done (I'm a fit junky), but will need to be tweaked as I get stronger and learn to spend more time in the drops.

Ouch that "not" stings but I know I brought it on myself!
We'll have to agree to disagree
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Old 12-26-13, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by robbyville
Bike fit has been done (I'm a fit junky), but will need to be tweaked as I get stronger and learn to spend more time in the drops...
To what end? Acccording to the guy that did my Retul fit....riding in the drops makes you more aero, but doesn't help generate any additional power...
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Old 12-26-13, 10:23 PM
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I produce less power in the drops, and my heart rate goes up.
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To what end? Acccording to the guy that did my Retul fit....riding in the drops makes you more aero, but doesn't help generate any additional power...
Hmm, well I was planning to race this year and my first ride is a criterium in WV, all the videos I watch seemed like people were in drops for extended periods of time during crits so I thought I'd better be comfortable there for longer than 10 minutes at a time?
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People are in the drops for aero and handling, not necessarily to produce more power. Yes, you should try to ride in the drops as much as possible in a criterium (generally speaking).
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Originally Posted by ravenmore
Sure no problem. Easiest way to do it would be to use your longest lens and then put the camera in aperture priority automatic mode (its usually marked 'A' on the mode dial). Set it to the widest aperture (lower numbers = wider) and it will automatically pick the corresponding shutter speed for you.
My dial has little pictures on it. I find that flower or green box work ok for bike pics... actually this is a really good thing to know!

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Originally Posted by robbyville
Hmm, well I was planning to race this year and my first ride is a criterium in WV, all the videos I watch seemed like people were in drops for extended periods of time during crits so I thought I'd better be comfortable there for longer than 10 minutes at a time?
+1 to staying in them for crits. You should be able to ride at least an hour in them. Lotsa people don't, but it is better for many reasons, but mostly handling and keeping other bars from mating with yours.
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Old 12-27-13, 08:33 AM
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+1 to staying in them for crits. You should be able to ride at least an hour in them. Lotsa people don't, but it is better for many reasons, but mostly handling and keeping other bars from mating with yours.
yeah, it's different for me, I'm not particularly flexible and I'm a good slogger for long periods of time, so getting in the drops without losing power and keeping my body still has been good practice.
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You're not comparing power curves to determine who wins races. It's whomever crosses the line first. You will be slower and less stable through the turns if you're on the tops or the hoods. You will be slower, especially with your nose in the wind if you're on the tops or the hoods. Even though you may be producing more power up on the tops or the hoods, it is less efficient, and you will be going slower. As someone else already said, you will also be more stable and less likely to tangle bars when you bump and grind in the drops.
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Originally Posted by ravenmore
Nice Trek. Seems like everyone and their dog is making carbon wheels these days. Rail?
Not sure if serious or not?

Rail = the new November line of wheels.
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You always have bad-ass bikes, Forza. Nice. How do you like those handlebars?
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yeah that's pretty darn hot. I also want to know how the handlebars are, do you ever ride the tops with those?

I especially like that it comes with the DA 9000 brakes, whereas some of the DA equipped specialized bikes don't, drives me crazy that a bike in that price point would skimp on brakes (I fully know how this is normal, but again in this price point I would think it would be better to simply have the right brakes and increase price a bit). At any rate that's a beaut!
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Specialized made a Vuka Sprint.
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Originally Posted by LAJ
You always have bad-ass bikes, Forza. Nice. How do you like those handlebars?
limited time on them. I like them, but i've always preferred "ergo" shapes. I was iffy on the naked approach, so far no issues...comfortable to me, more than I expected. I'm sure I'll have more of an opinion come the summer months, as I am a no gloves rider and I do ride the tops on climbs.

As far as performance, they are stiffer than I expected and that's a good thing for me.

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yeah that's pretty darn hot. I also want to know how the handlebars are, do you ever ride the tops with those?

I especially like that it comes with the DA 9000 brakes, whereas some of the DA equipped specialized bikes don't, drives me crazy that a bike in that price point would skimp on brakes (I fully know how this is normal, but again in this price point I would think it would be better to simply have the right brakes and increase price a bit). At any rate that's a beaut!
Thanks, I'm pretty lucky in that we are sponsored by Specialized, Shimano, Michelin, Garmin (amongst others), etc..and we get our stuff from them and we don't buy the bike configurations offered, come race season I'll be running Dura-Ace c50 tubulars. The wheels on there right now are de-badged Enve 45s. I need to get rid of the Zipp cages.

Your point is spot on too though, if I (or anyone) were shelling out $$$$$ for the standard configs, it's nice to get the group throughout.
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@pcaldwell how do you like that frame? I'm thinking of buying it.
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@pcaldwell how do you like that frame? I'm thinking of buying it.
I love it. Nice and stiff. Pretty light too, in fact I sold my carbon frame/bike to purchase this bike. I'd say go for it, especially since it's only $299 for the frame. The finish looks even better in person.
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